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On the topic of the new FW chapter tactics -
Since there's already a shark-nado then the next logical step can only be sharks in space.
Someone should do a shark themed army and convert Aquaman to a chapter master.
"I talk to fish, that means i'm a superhero right? Guys?"

Ever since a certain road trip to Vegas with a certain book on tape (Carcharodon Megalodon!! An ancient denizen of the deep! The mega shark rides in the warm plume of blood from a dead whale into warm surface waters to terrorize Hawaii! ) The word Carcharodon will always been synonymous with corny for me.

In the real world, I'd love to play some Fire Hawks! +1S flamers, yeah buddy! And S5 Hammer of Wrath hits is enough to make me almost willing to convince myself that Assault Marines aren't total garbage.

Again, I think there's some interesting stuff in there, nothing OP though. I'd probably be ok with an army using one of these sets of chapter tactics in a tournament, provided the army was fully painted in the appropriate chapter colors, etc. No grey plastic Marines counting as whatever.

The only tone I find questionable is red scorpions.

T5 bike army with FNP lead by a FNP eternal warrior 2+3++ chapter master on a bike. Only S10 can strip them of FNP.

Dev centurions would also be beefy but I don't see them being meta changing.

 schadenfreude wrote:
The only tone I find questionable is red scorpions.

Agreed. Army-wide access to FNP is a bit much. You gotta pay for the Veteran Sarge to get the Narthecium, but I'd say it's worth it.

 disdainful wrote:

 schadenfreude wrote:
The only tone I find questionable is red scorpions.

Agreed. Army-wide access to FNP is a bit much. You gotta pay for the Veteran Sarge to get the Narthecium, but I'd say it's worth it.

Nope changed my mind after re reading the rules. Nartheciums are only on tactical squads. Seems ok.

 disdainful wrote:


Just saw this:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/F/FWchaptertactics.pdf

FW chapter tactics for some alt chapters. Some stuff is simple, like 'Lamenters are chosen from Codex: Blood Angels" and "Sons of Medusa use Iron Hands Chapter Tactics", and some of them get full-custom gospel sounds. What do you guys think of that? I'll admit, my very first reaction was

It's free? ...Really?

In any case, would you be ok with someone using an (appropriately modeled and painted, of course) army with one of the custom rulesets presented there? Would it be cool to include in a tournament setting or no thanks? The only one that seemed a bit much to me on first glance was the Red Scorpions getting free nartheciums on all veteran sergeants.

And the Carcharodons chapter with the little shark on their shoulder pad is pretty silly, but I'm biased.

Are you going to start to allow all forge world?

The Space Marine codex has been out for a month, is it so underpowered that it needs the help?

If there was someone who played one of those armies like Sgt. Barker does his Imperial Fist then maybe, otherwise people will just play the best chapter trait.

The Red Hunters one is awesome for my collection. Can I still use the Blood Angel book but use the Red Hunters Chapter Tactics? At last my Inquisitorial Strikeforce collection can fight as Battle Brothers (even if it's only for home games since that's usually all I play these days anyway)!

 Blackmoor wrote:

 disdainful wrote:


Just saw this:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/F/FWchaptertactics.pdf

FW chapter tactics for some alt chapters. Some stuff is simple, like 'Lamenters are chosen from Codex: Blood Angels" and "Sons of Medusa use Iron Hands Chapter Tactics", and some of them get full-custom gospel sounds. What do you guys think of that? I'll admit, my very first reaction was

It's free? ...Really?

In any case, would you be ok with someone using an (appropriately modeled and painted, of course) army with one of the custom rulesets presented there? Would it be cool to include in a tournament setting or no thanks? The only one that seemed a bit much to me on first glance was the Red Scorpions getting free nartheciums on all veteran sergeants.

And the Carcharodons chapter with the little shark on their shoulder pad is pretty silly, but I'm biased.

Are you going to start to allow all forge world?

The Space Marine codex has been out for a month, is it so underpowered that it needs the help?

If there was someone who played one of those armies like Sgt. Barker does his Imperial Fist then maybe, otherwise people will just play the best chapter trait.

I doubt all FW would ever be allowed at GE. There are too many of us who dislike unrestricted FW in tournaments Alan me included. I am not opposed to 1 event a year allowing FW, I am also not opposed to a 0-1 option on FW units in tournaments.

However Travis did state that if someone wanted to use those rules and had an appropriately built and painted army he would not be opposed to them using it. I agree with that actually, if someone has a fully built and correctly painted Red Scorpion army etc I am fine with them using those rules.

schadenfreude wrote:Nope changed my mind after re reading the rules. Nartheciums are only on tactical squads. Seems ok.

Yeah, I mis-read that myself. I thought it was all Tac Squad sergeants AND all veteran sergeants, but it's just Tac Squad sergeants, whether standard or veteran. That's fine.

BladeWalker wrote:The Red Hunters one is awesome for my collection. Can I still use the Blood Angel book but use the Red Hunters Chapter Tactics? At last my Inquisitorial Strikeforce collection can fight as Battle Brothers (even if it's only for home games since that's usually all I play these days anyway)!

Unfortunately no; anything chosen from the BA book is strictly a BA army and is differentiated from regular SMs by their specific options. Chapter Tactics, as they stand now, are applicable only to armies from the regular SM book.

And no, Allan, I'm not inching toward forge world. I just wanted to see what people thought about these rules and generate some discussion. Personally, I don't know if the Marine book is underpowered, and if it is, I doubt any of the FW chapter tactics change that. Further, since none of these rules allow FW models or models that are not available to everyone, and are themselves free, I'm looking at them as almost a compendium of supplement material that we might have seen in WD in days of yore. Obviously WD is circling the drain, so these would never see the light of day if that were the only avenue to release them.

Of course, if someone wanted to use these rules, they'd need a fully painted an appropriately modeled army. There's no way I'd let someone walk in with their grey plastic legion or (even worse) already build other chapter army and tell me their trying out this or that set of rules.

I'm going to have to come out to one of these tourneys one day, sounds like its a good group. 0-3 here I come!

Im bringing a push over list for this tournament. You'll be able to beat me up if you want. Plus Ill be running on no sleep from the tournament the night before

 Thokt wrote:
I'm going to have to come out to one of these tourneys one day, sounds like its a good group. 0-3 here I come!

0-3 is a fun place to be. I'm often there.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/547382-.html?m=2

I am coming to light up the place! My Centurions will finally have a ride.

A formitable foe for my newly painted orks in the painting realm. Bring it!

Between Mike and Paul I feel like I may never win a painting prize at GE ever again! I still vote for either of you guys pretty much every time anyway.

Im going triple Dakka Jets, triple big gunz squads, some battle wagons, nob bikers, and Mega Nobz. Nice and simple. Oh and my fancy new quad gun!

You could win best army for the quad gun alone!! Epic work my friend.

New color scheme to poke at Paul. Yellows with red accents. And lots of rusty metal work.

Speaking of a new color and codex?

 Thokt wrote:
I'm going to have to come out to one of these tourneys one day, sounds like its a good group. 0-3 here I come!

Having played against you several times now, I think you could absolutely hold your own. Just bring your cut throat units and mind the round time. These events are definitely good fun.


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Also, nice nice nice painting progress mike and paul. With my new job I've barely got time for that part of the hobby :-(

Well, I think I'll shoot for the January tourney. All the touch ups will be done on the Iyanden, and those Sepulchral Stalkers as Wraiths will be finished as well. 1-2 here I come!

Can we use Sentinels Of Terra for this RTT?

They would like to know.

That grass seems to be thriving quite well in the vacuum of space

I miss GE events

Nah, it's Necrons. They have some pocket dimension atmospheric generation algorithm that keeps their lawns fresh, even in the harshest conditions! It's those silly humans trampling the crabgrass that's got Trazyn up in arms.

Necrons: the ultimate grumpy old men. Get off my SPACE LAWN!

 Hulksmash wrote:
I miss GE events

We miss you too Hulk. You're welcome any time travel plans permit!

Sign me up for the tourny please. I will be bringing Eldar (of the darkest variety).

Damn . A three way fully painted army throw down for the favorite army award. I better bring my A game

Did you paint a new army already? Dont think theres a compitition.... Me and my girl were just talking about the only time i won best painted at GE is when you didnt show up. looking forward to seein what you bring to the table.

Im in the process of painting the new army now. Ill have some goodies ready for next week including my super giant artillery battlewagon

Sure its gonna be insane!