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 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

 generalgrog wrote:
Thought it was very good. Almost as good as FOTR. I still think FOTR was the best film of the series , even though ROTK won the oscar.

Spoiler:

The dwarves were treated better than what I thought in that, they were actually heroic and not foolish, which is what I was expecting...good thing I was wrong. Radagast was great, Saruman was dissapointing. The opening back story of Smaug vs the Dwarves was awesome, wish they showed more Dragon though, I know it was a tease.

Only had a few complaints:
1) Goblin King voice, what's the deal... were they summoning Daniel Day Lewis's portrayal of Lincoln?
2) Didn't like Bilbo attacking the orcs at the end, just not part of the character IMO.
3) Not enough Bilbo..was hoping for more comic relief from Bilbo.

Besides that I thought The Hobbit was Brilliant.

GG

Spoiler:

I'd have to say shrike got it right about Saruman; it's hard to expect a 91 year old man to have the same charisma he once had, and to give him credit, age caught up with him a lot later than most.
1) That's just Brian Humphries.
2) Remember the true heart of the story is the courage of Hobbits, and that had yet to be shown in the first part of the trilogy, so I suppose it was a case of 'well we had better do it now'. It was a nice touch, and remember even if he was foolish, he is a Took.
3) I can see your point; I think like in LoTR PJ was just conscious of the story not focusing on one single character too much.

OK.....we are far enough into the thread were we don't need spoilers anymore...

I just think that having Bilbo attack the wargs to "save" Thorin, was just unbelievable. I went from thinking this is cool,you know where Thorin is like..."This is enough, I'm not going to take this anymore!!! and he does the slow badass walk down from the tree towards Azog ready, to go Mano E Mano with him and his white warg.

I went from that cool factor to..an "Oh brother" moment. When Bilbo charged in all by himself without the dwarves...I don't know, it just felt so contrived. I was like "What the.....?"

I think it would have been better to let Thorin beat Azog and his warg to a pulp....and at the end hear Bilbo say something like "I knew you could do it all along... ole chap".

Bilbo is not Swarznegger's Conan, or Willis's, John Mclean....Bilbo is the reluctant hero, the guy that outwits his way into winning.

It's just a small gripe I have, just thought it could have been done better.

GG

Saw the movie last night.

I think that Bilbo's heroism at the end would have been best supported by Fili and Kili heading out first, and then Bilbo following their lead. Then he could had diverted from behind them to save Thorin.

But still, it showcased very well that Hobbits are supposed to be the masters at being overlooked out of hand by the other "stronger" races, but then suddenly doing something surprising when they are backed into a corner.

Seen it today, now my favourite film so far. It was beyond amazing.

HFR- Loved it, you do feel more immersed however, my personal nit-picking felt actually the 3D made some scenes just look un-natural but this was a few seconds and the when the camera pans the scenery shots, god damn..... I already knew what 48fps looked like so it instantly set in for me. Dont think I can watch The Hobbit again actually in normal 24fps.

The film- Adored the prologue, magnificent. There was one scene in the film which just brought back all the memories of Lord of the Rings, almost made me shed a couple of man tears, thinking back to when I was a child, glorious. I really did feel like going up to Peter Jackson, shaking his hand and telling him what a magnificent he is.

Loved seeing the dwarves more in film and gotta say I have a new found love for elves..

If you havent seen this film, GO SEE IT!!

You know I think I might have to request a second edition of the Hobbit now, with all the extra bits Jackson's giving us thrown in, especially Armitage grade Thorin. While he's changed from who he was in the book I cannot say that change is bad at all.

I'm glad I chose to watch the film in 2d. Saying that, I did find the mountain views (top down from above), really heard to see what was happening as I felt it was ott for the sake of making it look better in 3d...

Is there any difference between HFR vs IMAX?

Saw it this afternoon and loved it... All in, a great start to the trilogy, hope the second installment can keep the momentum going,just not happy we have to wait a year for it ...

Didn't like the annoying child behind me kicking my chair and talking to it's parent the whole way through...

 Ruglud wrote:

Didn't like the annoying child behind me kicking my chair and talking to it's parent the whole way through...

That's why you should bring a knife to the cinema

 Testify wrote:

 Ruglud wrote:

Didn't like the annoying child behind me kicking my chair and talking to it's parent the whole way through...

That's why you should bring a knife to the cinema

I brought an axe, does that count?

well, a plastic one...

 shrike wrote:

 Testify wrote:

 Ruglud wrote:

Didn't like the annoying child behind me kicking my chair and talking to it's parent the whole way through...

That's why you should bring a knife to the cinema

I brought an axe, does that count?

well, a plastic one...

I'd rather that the parents of said children had some fething control over them. No doubt their little 'angels' are always well behaved in their eyes. TBH, I thought they were too young for the film really

My kids (12 & 8) sat and watched the film without annoying anyone else...

I'm going to see it Thursday, I will post a review then.

Watched the Hobbit yesterday in 3D in the High Frequency Rate theater or whatever it's called.

My eyes were fatigued, something I don't recall happening after my last few 3D movies, but then, I have never watched a 3 hour 3D movie before!

I liked it. The Gollum/Bilbo scene was the best part of the movie. Don't go in expecting the Lord of the Rings. Just like the Hobbit is more of a children's book than LotR, so too is the movie. I'll wait for the extended DVD and buy it, like I did with LotR. Radagast was too silly, I felt.

 Ruglud wrote:
I'd rather that the parents of said children had some fething control over them. No doubt their little 'angels' are always well behaved in their eyes. TBH, I thought they were too young for the film really

My kids (12 & 8) sat and watched the film without annoying anyone else...

true, it does get really annoying, especially in a film like that. I might actually have resorted to shushing them if I couldn't move away *gasp*

Oh god I feel some of your pain, there just had to be a group of brats near us who kept talking throughout the film and the parents would do nothing. Felt like pimp slapping them for potentially ruining a past childhood experience, I mean Jesus, you go to the movies to watch the movie, not to talk through it.

My favourite part was the big battle when the lines clash, something I havent seen in ages.

Damn I need to watch it again so badly, cant wait for the EE.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Oh god I feel some of your pain, there just had to be a group of brats near us who kept talking throughout the film and the parents would do nothing. Felt like pimp slapping them for potentially ruining a past childhood experience, I mean Jesus, you go to the movies to watch the movie, not to talk through it.

My favourite part was the big battle when the lines clash, something I havent seen in ages.

Damn I need to watch it again so badly, cant wait for the EE.

Yeah I saw a few Dwarven Troll slayers in that battle!

GG

one awesome thing I'm looking forward to is not only Dain being played by Billy Connolly, but he's having a mohawk and tattoo'd head

I am a fan of the books love the first 3 movies but must say this first hobbit movie sucked balls!

Just felt that the pace was off ... And the dwarfs pretty week... And almost forgot the movie was about the hobbit...

Akirakill wrote:
I am a fan of the books love the first 3 movies but must say this first hobbit movie sucked balls!

Just felt that the pace was off ... And the dwarfs pretty week... And almost forgot the movie was about the hobbit...

The Dwarves didn't really have a big chance at fighting- there was Goblin town, where they killed the king and god knows how many goblins without anyone dying, then the wargs where they we heavily outnumbered and basically just ran, and then in the forest, where it was just Thorin vs a huge ruler of Orcs on a huge warg.
The hobbit isn't just about Bilbo- it's mostly just his perspective of the journey at this point. He had plenty of time in the spotlight, saving Thorin, pickpocketing and then talking to the trolls, Gollum's cave...

 brainscan wrote:
I'm glad I chose to watch the film in 2d. Saying that, I did find the mountain views (top down from above), really heard to see what was happening as I felt it was ott for the sake of making it look better in 3d...

Aye, I remember looking at that and thinking what the is going on here?

kronk wrote:Don't go in expecting the Lord of the Rings. Just like the Hobbit is more of a children's book than LotR, so too is the movie.

This is something I've found alright; those that had not read the book mostly didn't like it because they expected LoTR all over again, whereas those who did read the book and thus knew what to expect and didn't go in with those expectations mostly loved it.

generalgrog wrote:Yeah I saw a few Dwarven Troll slayers in that battle!

Yup spotted those. Guess he couldn't resist.

Akirakill wrote:Just felt that the pace was off ... And the dwarfs pretty week... And almost forgot the movie was about the hobbit...

The pace was the same as the book. The dwarves were stronger than they were in the book, so I don't understand that complaint (in fact some of those dwarves aren't actually fighters). And the movie (and book) are not about the hobbit, they are about the company. If anything it's more about Thorin than Bilbo, Bilbo is just the narrator for us really.

In the end most of these things come straight from the book, so if there's a problem it is there, and I know there is the argument to deviate, but if you were PJ what would you do after getting slated so hard for changing stuff in LoTR?

I had no problem with Bilbo showing his growing courage at the end. This isn't a transliteration of the book after all, and nor should it be. I like giving Thorin a nemisis to hound them and to help add a through-line for the trilogy; he was well done and makes for quite a formidable foe.

Overall, I was very happy and enjoyed the experience.

I just saw the movie and thought it was great. Well worth the 35 years I needed to wait for it. The beginning story of how the Dwarves lost Erebor was fantastic, especially how they tied Dale in for those who never read the books before. Old Bilbo preparing for the party scene with Frodo was smartly done. Then we have the Dwarves invading Bilbo's home and I was laughing but more from enjoyment than slapstick, well done.
I has reservations about the Dwarves from the pictures, Thorin, Fili and Kili just didn't look right, but in the film, with others to create the illusion that they were Dwarves pulled it off nicely. I loved how they worked as a team, each using his skills to set an opponent up for another to attack, using objects and terrain to fight.
No children to bother me, that's what Living Room Theater at Cinetopia is for.
I was a happy geek leaving the theater and will probably see it in #D high rate next time to see what that is like.

My favorite line of the movie is where Gandalf is asked the names of the blue wizards and he says he cannot remember.

Hilarious.

Just got back from seeing the 2D version and loved it.

Holy gak misty mountains sent chills down my spine, now I want the whole song sung that way, maybe throw in Christopher Lee for good measure.

I saw the HFR 3d version tonight and really, really enjoyed it. My wife wasn't a fan of the HFR, said it looked like a tv show. I think the reason I liked it so much is that there was no point in the fighting where I couldn't follow the characters. There is no skipping or jumping where you can't follow the action. It's just plain smooth. It was a bit diconcerting at first but I really liked it. I hope they start doing more action movies in HFR.

MadEdric wrote:I has reservations about the Dwarves from the pictures, Thorin, Fili and Kili just didn't look right, but in the film, with others to create the illusion that they were Dwarves pulled it off nicely.

I agree, I didn't think they looked dwarven enough, but the others kind of make up for that.

Dreadwinter wrote:My favorite line of the movie is where Gandalf is asked the names of the blue wizards and he says he cannot remember.

Hilarious.

yup, I had a little chuckle at that one too

Having rock giants fist fighting while the heroes climbed on their legs was just awe inspiring.

My favorite out of the Peter Jackson movies so far... Easily.

Is it a three hour drag or does the film fly in? A lot of reviewers have flagged the fact that it takes Bilbo 50mins to get out the front door! I'm still 50/50 about seeing this. I'll probably wait for the DVD.

Na the movie flew by for me, I mean its middle-earth how could anyone be bored by it. Was waiting with me pa for my ma from the toilets and heard some guy go past and claimed it was "too long."

Me and my dad felt like slapping him just for that unbelievable piece of trash that just came from his mouth, let alone the fact that you should know how long it is suppposed to be and should be thankful the book isnt getting crammed into a 2 hour film. Idiots