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That flyer looks like the unholy spawn of a Stormtalon with an Aquila Lander.. can't decide if I like it.

 TBD wrote:

ZombieDK wrote:

 TBD wrote:

ZombieDK wrote:
Prices are

Belial 15£ 22,25$
Asmondai 11£ 19,25$
Ravenwing Dark Talon 45£ 75$
The new Ravenwing Battleforce 70£ 110$
Ravenwing Command Squad 30£ 50$
Deathwing Command Squad/knights/normal 35£ 50$
Ravenwing land Speed Vengeance 40£ 65$

No euro prices, but we can figure it out.

Thanks

20,25
15,50
60
90
40
45
50

Looks like GW included a little price raise in this release if those are correct.

Freaking 60,- euro for the flyer is rather expensive, and the Terminator kit just got 10,- euros added to all the previous ones

Are you sure the Terminators aren't (about) 35,- euros?

In the WD it says 45

£40 for a Land Speeder? I don't care how fancy it is, that's just outrageous now.

I'll wait to see the models in official pictures, but i'm quite disappointed with the look of these kits.

Any ideas what the guns are on the front of the Stormaquila?

Alright thanks.

Those prices compared to similar boxes (SW Terminators) are utterly rediculous Imo. Not sure if I find them acceptable.

Eesh. Don't like the look of any of the new models.

Most of the infantry seems awkwardly posed or with odd-looking or over-sized weapons and the less said about the two fliers the better IMHO.

I've got the DV Dark Angels, but after seeing this, I think I'll sell them. Seeing such uninspiring (for me) or wacky (or toy-like) designs (again) is what makes me happy I've stopped collecting/left Games Workshop; not really feeling a reason to look back, personally.

ZombieDK wrote:Ravenwing Dark Talon 45£ 75$

They couldn't do better than "Dark Talon"?!

 pretre wrote:
Holy crap! Rumors may be correct for once.

This was my highlight of the thread.


Dang, never thought I'd be one of those overwhelmingly negative guys...

An improvement on most of their recent efforts IMHO.

Still not on board with the flier nonsense. This one is ok, but it still looks more like a toy than a model.

I'm guessing that you've listed it in US$ ? well, I'm expecting that flyer to be $90 Australian...

Might just be cheaper to get a stormtalon and add bolters to it, lol.

 ceorron wrote:
Any ideas what the guns are on the front of the Stormaquila?

The dark talons main gun is the rift cannon, an arcane weapon capable of tearing open the fabric of realspace

Nephilim Jetfighter has something called an Avenger mega bolter

ZombieDK, as a suggestion, add the prices and points costs that you talked about on pages 2/3 to the OP.

 TBD wrote:
Alright thanks.

Those prices compared to similar boxes (SW Terminators) are utterly rediculous Imo. Not sure if I find them acceptable.

??

DA Termis $50
GK Termis $50
SM Termis $50
SW Termis $50

BAHAHAHAHAHA! These models makes the Forgefiend and the Heldrake look like masterpieces.

 MetalOxide wrote:
BAHAHAHAHAHA! These models makes the Forgefiend and the Heldrake look like masterpieces.

Ahh yes. Time for all hipster model critics to come out. I'm still waiting with bated breath for the new catchy nickname. I'm sure it will be awesome like 'Zoids'.

Dark Zoids?

What's the release date for the minis?

 judgedoug wrote:
So, it looks like every last bit of the Deathwing Native American stuff is gone?

Do you mean model-wise or fluff-wise? Fluff-wise I don't know, but model-wise those Deathwing (and models in Dark Vengeance) still have feathers sculpted on them in places, as the 2E models did.

Well, at least the flyer is a modest improvement over Storm Talon. Land Speeder is very Lego-like, in terms of layout. Old Lego spaceships used to be like that. Don't like it. Infantry figures seem OK, although I could have done with less bling.

 pretre wrote:
What's the release date for the minis?

preeorder Jan 5

Well...

I like the Dork Talon. I can see some pretty fun conversions, and the base model doesn't look half bad. It looks like that kit is going to full of awesome little extras.

The Landspeeder Vengeance? Overall, meh. Gives me an idea, though. Take all of the guns and bling off, paint it a drab grey color, instant hover truck.

The Terminators? It's will be neat - I'm guessing they're all possibles from the same box, which means there is going to be some more awesome bits for my bits box. I just hoping that the heads are separate pieces, so that I don't have to cut as much to get rid of the idiotic bareheaded/ cowl. Some fun looking weapons in there.

The Rawenwing bikers? Awesomesauce. I'm wondering if the standard bearer and apocthecary options are included in the box, as well as the apparent master of the Ravenwing.

The characters? Belial and Admodai should have better models. Stiff legged and arms spead is an idiot pose. The chaplain model looks like they just took the Sgt model from DV and tarted him up a bit.

Oh we'll, I'll take five of each.

 Maelstrom808 wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Alright thanks.

Those prices compared to similar boxes (SW Terminators) are utterly rediculous Imo. Not sure if I find them acceptable.

??

DA Termis $50
GK Termis $50
SM Termis $50
SW Termis $50

Right now in EUROS a box of Space Wolves Terminators, regular Terminators, etc cost 35,-.

These guys suddenly cost 45,-.

Now looking at the pictures there do seem to be a buttload of options in there to pimp all my unbuilt Terminator kits, but still if those prices are correct that is a 10,- raise just like that. The bikers are 7,- more, and the flyer doesn't look to be much bigger than the Necron Doomscythe or the Ork flyer, but 23,- freaking euros more expensive.

I don't want to turn this into another price discussion, but if this is correct GW just crossed another line.

47 more lines before I consider buying less models! You are on notice GW!!

Didn't they paint the RW Apothecary wrong? I thought RW Apothecary just had white chest, groin, helmet with black arms and legs?

Madocyw wrote:
Well...

I like the Dork Talon. I can see some pretty fun conversions, and the base model doesn't look half bad. It looks like that kit is going to full of awesome little extras.

The Landspeeder Vengeance? Overall, meh. Gives me an idea, though. Take all of the guns and bling off, paint it a drab grey color, instant hover truck.

The Terminators? It's will be neat - I'm guessing they're all possibles from the same box, which means there is going to be some more awesome bits for my bits box. I just hoping that the heads are separate pieces, so that I don't have to cut as much to get rid of the idiotic bareheaded/ cowl. Some fun looking weapons in there.

The Rawenwing bikers? Awesomesauce. I'm wondering if the standard bearer and apocthecary options are included in the box, as well as the apparent master of the Ravenwing.

The characters? Belial and Admodai should have better models. Stiff legged and arms spead is an idiot pose. The chaplain model looks like they just took the Sgt model from DV and tarted him up a bit.

Oh we'll, I'll take five of each.

Terminators is a multi box set.. cant say anything about whats in the box but bits there will be alot of

The standard bearerm apoth and master comes in a ravenwing command box

 ceorron wrote:
Any ideas what the guns are on the front of the Stormaquila?

Looks like a Punisher Cannon or Vulcan Mega Bolter on the right one and either a new weapon or something that bears a resemblance to this weapon

Avenger Mega Bolter from rumors.

 Just Dave wrote:

ZombieDK wrote:Ravenwing Dark Talon 45£ 75$

They couldn't do better than "Dark Talon"?!

I originally heard it was called a "Ravenclaw fighter". I'll have to amend my "named after something in Harry Potter" comment...

everything looks ok...ish. The Speeders look like a bad acid enduced nightmare that or a slow being handed a load of bits and being told "Build something" I dont even know how that veihicle would function on the battlefield the two plasma cannons latched to the back with all its offensive angels and Rawrness.The Deathwing look ok... id have to put some together take a look at them painted and make a judgement .... The new Deathwing proberly means a Deathwing list command and all Belial could look better he looks rushed in that awkwardly posed hero way that GW are so fond of...

Wonder what the battleforce contents will be.

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Wonder what the battleforce contents will be.

same as before... i thought they might have added the new biker options. But when i look at the picture i see no Corvus helmets and no plasmas.. so still the old 6 bike, 1 attack bike and a land speeder battleforce