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For my next 1750 battle coming up probably this Thursday or Friday, I'm going to do sometime a little different. I'm going to let the readers decide which army I will take. So cast your votes for which of my armies you want to see next!



1. 1750 Hive Fleet Pandora

Flyrant - 2x TL-Devourers
Flyrant - 2x TL-Devourers

Doom of Ma'lantai - Mycetic Spore
2x Hive Guards
2x Hive Guards

Tervigon - Adrenal Glands, Catalyst, Cluster Spines, Onslaught, Toxin Sacs, Crushing Claws
10x Termagants
Tervigon - Adrenal Glands, Catalyst, Cluster Spines, Onslaught, Toxin Sacs
10x Termagants

16x Gargoyles - Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs

3x Biovores
2x Biovores



2. 1750 Nurgle Chaos Space Marines

Typhus

29x Zombie Cultists
10x Zombie Cultists
6x Plague Marines - 2x Plasmas
6x Plague Marines - 2x Plasmas
5x Plague Marines - 2x Plasmas

5x Chaos Spawn - Mark of Nurgle
Heldrake

3x Obliterators - Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War
3x Obliterators - Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War



3. 1750 The Space Wolf Horde

Rune Priest Blackheart - 2+, Chooser
Rune Priest Loki - 2+, Boltgun
Rune Priest Goldmoon - 2+

3x Wolf Guards - 3x Combi-plasma

10x Grey Hunters - 2x Meltaguns, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard
10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasmas, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard
10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasmas, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard
10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasmas, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard
5x Grey Hunters - 1xPlasma

6x Long Fangs Alpha - 5x Missile Launchers
6x Long Fangs Beta - 5x Missile Launchers
5x Long Fangs Delta - 4x Missile Launchers

Aegis Defense Line - Quad-guns



4. 1750 Chaos Daemons

Fateweaver
Masque

5x Bloodcrushers
6x Fiends - Unholy Might
9x Flamers of Tzeentch

5x Pink Horrors - Bolt, Changeling
5x Pink Horrors - Bolt
5x Plaguebearers
5x Plaguebearers

8x Screamers of Tzeentch
7x Screamers of Tzeentch



5. 1750 The Grey Knight Horde

Coteaz

10x Strike Squad - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo
10x Strike Squad - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo
10x Strike Squad - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo
10x Strike Squad - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo
10x Strike Squad - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo
7x Henchmen

Dreadknight - Heavy Incinerator
Dreadknight - Heavy Incinerator

Aegis Defense Line - Quad-guns



6. 1750 Wraithwing Necrons

Destroyer Lord - 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs, ResOrb
Destroyer Lord - 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs, ResOrb

5x Warriors
Night Scythe
5x Warriors
Night Scythe
5x Warriors
5x Warriors

6x Canoptek Wraiths - 2x Whip Coils
6x Canoptek Wraiths - 2x Whip Coils
7x Scarabs

Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
3x Spyders - Gloom Prism

I would love to see the Daemons list but without Fate and in her place a Khorne Herald for the Juggurnauts and a unit of Seekers.

I could drop Fatey, though I'm not a big fan of the Khorne Herald on juggie. Sadly, Seekers are one of the units that I don't have. I suppose I could proxy a large unit with flesh hounds and IG rough riders. What do you think of this list?


Herald of Khorne - Juggernaut, Icon - 130
Masque

5x Bloodcrushers
6x Fiends
8x Flamers of Tzeentch - 184

5x Pink Horrors - Bolt, Changeling
5x Pink Horrors - Bolt
5x Plaguebearers
5x Plaguebearers

15x Seekers - 255
7x Screamers of Tzeentch
7x Screamers of Tzeentch

1744


My concern here is that without Fatey's protection, this list isn't nearly as resilient. Also, my poor anti-air with my Fatey-list has actually gotten worse with this modified list (not that it's a huge difference).

I voted Nids but I'd love to see what you could do with a Monster Mash list. Something like 2 Flyrants, Tervi, and some Trygons/Carnifexes

Sounds kind of like my old tyranid list. Something like this?


Flyrant - twin-dakkas, Hive Commander
Flyrant - twin-dakkas

Doom - Spore

Tervigon - AG, TS, 3x Powers
11x Gants
Tervigon - AG, TS, 3x Powers
10x Gants

16x Gargoyles - AG, TS

Trygon - TS
Trygon - TS

1748


IMO it's not quite as balanced as my biovore list, but it will really wreck house against an army unprepared to deal with that many MC's. Still a decent list that's just a little bit more matchup-prone than my original list.

Something like that yeah. I've always liked Nidzilla and I'm trying to find a good build for it in 6th.

If you're going to run a Herald on a Juggernaught it should have Unholy Might and Fury of Khorne so the CrusherStar has a chance to hurt walkers in melee. It can save your bacon.

Personally I'd love to see an non-Typhus CSM list (I never liked plague zombies lol).

I'd like to see if someone else can replicate the results I'm seeing with a ML3 Sorcerer on a Bike (in a bike squad) with rulebook powers and a familiar. Go T6 bikes with Endurance or Invisibility!

Necrons vs. Tyranids

nids

 Dozer Blades wrote:
If you're going to run a Herald on a Juggernaught it should have Unholy Might and Fury of Khorne so the CrusherStar has a chance to hurt walkers in melee. It can save your bacon.

Ok, I'll swap out his Icon if I run this configuration....assuming daemons get selected....which isn't looking too likely at this point.

 Tarrasq wrote:
Personally I'd love to see an non-Typhus CSM list (I never liked plague zombies lol).

I'd like to see if someone else can replicate the results I'm seeing with a ML3 Sorcerer on a Bike (in a bike squad) with rulebook powers and a familiar. Go T6 bikes with Endurance or Invisibility!

Another unit which I would have to proxy. Don't currently own any chaos bikers, though I proxied with my nob bikers the last (and only) time I ever used them.

Perhaps you can provide a chaos biker list which you think is good.

DarthDiggler wrote:
Necrons vs. Tyranids

Ah, been on both sides of the fence on that one:

10/28/12 - The NecroNid Wars III - 2K Hive Fleet Pandora (Tyranids) vs Janthkin's Balanced Necrons

07/06/12 - 1st 6th Ed. Battle - 1999 Wraithwing Tesla Crons vs Janthkin's Tyranids

But so far, nids are in the lead. If Janthkin shows up with his crons, then we may just have a rematch.

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:
nids

Go nids! So far, they are in the lead.

The grey knight horde, they are undertested atm

tbh i think they still have a lot of potential...

I used to run Draigowing and Purifiers, but currently I'm rather enjoying my foot-list Striker grey knights. After playing mech for so long (most of 5th), foot armies are like a breath of fresh air to me.

Currently, I'm not doing too much with my knights but after the BAO, I will probably start using them again. My goal? To make my Crowe-purifiers work again in this edition.

I voted GK Horde but I'd like to see either that or the SW Horde vs. a Flyer heavy army like Necron Air Force or Daemon Flying Circus.

Do you think your lists are indicative of some of the lists that will be at BAO? I'm having a helluva time trying to decide on what to bring! I'm using a hybrid of my old GK lists now and plan to test it at a local tourney in a week and a half. I too am trying to get Purifiers to work again.

 jy2 wrote:
I used to run Draigowing and Purifiers, but currently I'm rather enjoying my foot-list Striker grey knights. After playing mech for so long (most of 5th), foot armies are like a breath of fresh air to me.

Currently, I'm not doing too much with my knights but after the BAO, I will probably start using them again. My goal? To make my Crowe-purifiers work again in this edition.

Currently i'm trying to build something working with the grey knights but not to succesfull yet, you would have a start list for the Crowe purifiers. I could play some test games to and share experiences, helping the evolution of a working list.

Nids!

I am going to an 1850 tourney and I love how helpful your bat reps are in developing my own lists and tactics.

Your experiences also help me in what to expect from my opponents.

Wow, it's a close race between my bugs, CSM and the grey knights. It could be any of those armies come game day.

 BladeWalker wrote:
I voted GK Horde but I'd like to see either that or the SW Horde vs. a Flyer heavy army like Necron Air Force or Daemon Flying Circus.

Do you think your lists are indicative of some of the lists that will be at BAO? I'm having a helluva time trying to decide on what to bring! I'm using a hybrid of my old GK lists now and plan to test it at a local tourney in a week and a half. I too am trying to get Purifiers to work again.

The daemon flying circus is actually easier to face IMO than the NAF. That's because you can ground the monsters and then shoot them to death, especially with 14 missiles in the army. The problem with the daemon flying circus is that it doesn't put out enough volume of offense. Unless they balance out the army with flamers and screamers and other offensive units, they will have problems with horde armies like orks, bugs and even horde ATSKNF marines.

At the BAO, just like with any of the larger tournaments, you better believe you will see lists like these....and probably even worse. I haven't even really scratched the surface of allies yet. There are combos out there that even I haven't thought of. But I would say that is just a small minority of the tournament players. IMO most players will be bringing casual lists and many will also bring what they perceive to be good lists but what good players will probably perceive as not-so-good. The extreme lists like daemon screamer/flamer-spam, the necron air force and wraith-spam necrons just to name a few will probably be less than 10% of the participants (just a guessimate).

 Valek wrote:

Currently i'm trying to build something working with the grey knights but not to succesfull yet, you would have a start list for the Crowe purifiers. I could play some test games to and share experiences, helping the evolution of a working list.

Sure. If you ever want to discuss about lists or if you just want my input on a particular list, just PM me and I will take a look.

BTW, how did you do in your tournament/campaign?

roxor08 wrote:
Nids!

I am going to an 1850 tourney and I love how helpful your bat reps are in developing my own lists and tactics.

Your experiences also help me in what to expect from my opponents.

I'm glad to hear that. One of the reasons why I do battle reports is to help other players. Comments like these really help to motivate me to write more reports.

Have sent a pm for the purifier/GK discussion.

Did very well and ended up winning them all, altough my final opponent became a Tau Blacksun with Immothek/scarab Farm added in.

for reference this is my version of Wraithwing at 1750:

1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Inquisitor


5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors
5 Grey Knight Strikers w/ Psycannon & Justicar w/ Halberd

5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils
5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils

1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Dreadknight w/ Teleporter & Heavy Incinerator

 Valek wrote:
Have sent a pm for the purifier/GK discussion.

Did very well and ended up winning them all, altough my final opponent became a Tau Blacksun with Immothek/scarab Farm added in.

for reference this is my version of Wraithwing at 1750:

1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Inquisitor


5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors
5 Grey Knight Strikers w/ Psycannon & Justicar w/ Halberd

5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils
5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils

1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Dreadknight w/ Teleporter & Heavy Incinerator

The Necron list is a common one seen but just wondering why youve included the GK and what you think they bring to the crons? Just as i think the Cron list is pretty nails without allies.

The dread knight is just balls down hard to kill, additonally it will fry anything in cover you dont want to use your barges on.
Secondly it is also fast moving and keeps up speed with the wraiths and barges.

The 5 grey knights and inquisitor are good at camping an objective and offer another 4 S7 shots.
They are also a small 12" radius deamons wont teleport in when i'm up against them.

Ok, the grey knights have surpassed my bugs. They are in the lead currently.

 Valek wrote:
Have sent a pm for the purifier/GK discussion.

Did very well and ended up winning them all, altough my final opponent became a Tau Blacksun with Immothek/scarab Farm added in.

for reference this is my version of Wraithwing at 1750:

1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Destroyer Lord w/ 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs
1 Inquisitor


5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors
5 Grey Knight Strikers w/ Psycannon & Justicar w/ Halberd

5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils
5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ 2 Whipcoils

1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Dreadknight w/ Teleporter & Heavy Incinerator

IMO each army - necrons and the grey knights - is self-sufficient. If you take take allies, I feel it is more for "flavor" rather than for actual need. However, there are 2 instances where I would like allies for either necrons or the grey knights.

For the crons, I would like to ally in a Runes of Warding farseer for some psychic protection. Too bad I can't.

For the knights, I see necron night scythes as a good complement for a Draigowing build, who traditionally is a very slow army.

I would like to see you run other: codex marines as im keen to see your balanced list and how you adapt them to your play style

Happy New Years Jy2!

I vote CSM because I've been out of the loop for a whole semester and have yet to see them in action.

 Valek wrote:


For the crons, I would like to ally in a Runes of Warding farseer for some psychic protection. Too bad I can't.

You could take a runepriest for the 4+ dispel that is imho much better than the seer

 Loricatus Aurora wrote:
I would like to see you run other: codex marines as im keen to see your balanced list and how you adapt them to your play style

I haven't touched my space marines in a long time. I used to run a Shrike Ravenguard army that was terminator-heavy, but now that Fleet no long does what it used to, I may have to rethink my SM list. I've also ran Vulkan, Lysander and Pedro before as well. Will have to work on a SM list probably for a future battle report.

 SabrX wrote:
Happy New Years Jy2!

I vote CSM because I've been out of the loop for a whole semester and have yet to see them in action.

Happy New Year SabrX!

Good to see you back at dakka again. School must've been real busy. Anyways, if you have time during your winter break, maybe we can get a game in. Then I will personally show you the new CSM in action. But for my next battle report, it's looking more and more like I'll be bringing my GK's.

 Valek wrote:

 Valek wrote:


For the crons, I would like to ally in a Runes of Warding farseer for some psychic protection. Too bad I can't.

You could take a runepriest for the 4+ dispel that is imho much better than the seer

Nah. He's too slow for such a fast army. What I like is a farseer on jetbike. Fast, highly mobile and his psychic defense extends to the whole board. If I can't take him, then I won't take any psychic defense at all...which pretty much means that my crons will be psychically helpless.

You could always pod him in with a unit of greyhunters and in the mean time pull some nasty JAWS shenigans...

Ended up playing my grey knights against a very good opponent in a very good game - Janthkin's bugs!

Will get the report tomorrow. In the meantime, I'd like to ask you guys for a little favor. Please bump up the posts so that I can start my report on p.2 of this thread. Otherwise, readers will have to scroll down to the bottom for the report.

Thanks.

I like what you did there, Bugs and GK's both got their way!

Will be good to see how the GK get on against the bugs!

On a personal level I hate Coteaz. Win or lose I gain much satisfaction in having him die during a game of 40k.