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75k goal hit. Looks like another big KS.

It's just the first day. It'll calm down to an even 5K-10K a day for most of its run and then spike in the final three days.

Very cool.

I look forward to this game's general release.

 kenshin620 wrote:
Goal: $25k

Its already at $34k now....

CMoN, masters of TT Boardgame KS . So when are they actually gonna put rackham minis on a KS

Looks cute anyways

Edit

$36k. In the time of my post. Wow

Confrontation will hit 4 to 5 million. That game has a huge cult following, being made in plastic will only make it that much more popular.

I am continually stunned by the amount of money these things are able to raise. People complain about GW prices, but you've got folks who will throw $100 at models that don't even exist just to subsidize a company that won't make them any profits. Mind-boggling.

Well that's the weirdest post I've seen here today.

Its not even midnight here and its sitting at $80k. $20k for more bikers and guns which I'd imagine will be reached sometime tomorrow if theres even a fraction of today's momentum

 Piston Honda wrote:
Confrontation will hit 4 to 5 million. That game has a huge cult following, being made in plastic will only make it that much more popular.

Last I checked, being made into plastic was one of the nail in the coffins

Of course I know thats a different type of plastic

UGH - these are cute. But no way I'm sprinnging for these with what I'm likely to drop on Kingdom Death here soon.

You'd think being Quasi-partners Cool Mini would know to time it better.

But I really like the look of the minis/the concept for the game. It reminds me of Nintendo's Advance War series on the GBA/DS.

This looks awesome.

I have a soft spot for cute minis games.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:
Goal: $25k

Its already at $34k now....

CMoN, masters of TT Boardgame KS . So when are they actually gonna put rackham minis on a KS

Looks cute anyways

Edit

$36k. In the time of my post. Wow

Confrontation will hit 4 to 5 million. That game has a huge cult following, being made in plastic will only make it that much more popular.

I think this is definitely right. I think they're not ready to do it yet though. My understanding is that they're going to do the Wrath of Kings KS next and then Confrontation after. I think. And, depending on how the models look and how many of the very hard to get models they release, I think $4-5M is about right, and potentially conservative.

My brother is pissed as hell because he didn't get his announcement email from CMoN until 4 and a half hours after the KS went live, meaning the early birds were all long gone.

Myself, the "RTS style" is enough to make it a pass for me, as it makes me think bogged down meatgrinder. Miniatures are cute though.

If one of the allied tanks was a walking M3 Lee I'd probably chip in.

Edit: Also, avatars!

RogueRegault wrote:
My brother is pissed as hell because he didn't get his announcement email from CMoN until 4 and a half hours after the KS went live, meaning the early birds were all long gone.

Myself, the "RTS style" is enough to make it a pass for me, as it makes me think bogged down meatgrinder. Miniatures are cute though.

If one of the allied tanks was a walking M3 Lee I'd probably chip in.

Hopefully $10 bucks isn't actually enough to make one "pissed as hell....."

So the sweet spot amount that gets you the game and a picture and a patch and opens you up for extras has gone up from $80 for zombiecide and sedition wars to $140 on this!
For basicly the same amount of content? Wow i dont think even GW would be that blatantly money grabbing. .

RogueRegault wrote:
Myself, the "RTS style" is enough to make it a pass for me, as it makes me think bogged down meatgrinder. Miniatures are cute though.

It is a World War One game. Bogged down meatgrinder gameplay seems thematically appropriate.

So far I find it very reminiscent of Super Dungeon Explore. My baby brother loves playing that game so I'm thinking he'll like this one as well.

 CURNOW wrote:
So the sweet spot amount that gets you the game and a picture and a patch and opens you up for extras has gone up from $80 for zombiecide and sedition wars to $140 on this!
For basicly the same amount of content? Wow i dont think even GW would be that blatantly money grabbing. .

No kidding!

The "sweet spot" here isn't so sweet.

Anytime the "sweet spot" zooms past $100, well...

I'm seeing that more and more now with a lot of newer Kickstarters $150 or so seems to be the new "sweet spot" I might have backed this at $125 but at $175 (both include shipping) I'll pass the impulse pledge amount has been exceeded for me - I was hovering over the early bird pledge when the KS opened but just couldn't make the pledge. Hopefully this doesn't set a precedent for future CMON kickstarters but I fear it will - I'd take a shot at Wrath of Kings for $100 but not $150 Confrontation well that's a different story I'll be straight in and I think that will be set higher.

Well the sweet spot has moved up

but the postage isn't looking as scary for international backers as it did for Relic Knights (where getting all 6 factions cost at least $75 shipping)

Could someone link me to something about "Wrath of Kings"? I don't know what that refers to.

I agree that Confrontation would be an amazing project. One worth doing a Kickstarter for, that I might actually consider. These smaller projects just seem like a bit of a money grab to me, though... striking while the iron is hot and before people have realized that for small games like this that are 95% done, they can literally wait half a year or so and just get it then.

I think there will continue to be a new influx of fresh blood into Kickstarter, but for those of us who have been doing it there's definitely a bit of burn-out. I'm going to be selective about the things I choose to order half a year - a year in advance: either projects that obviously need to crowd-source, or ones that I Really believe in and want to back that early. This one doesn't meet either criteria for me, although it obviously is leveraging the existing CMON base quite effectively.

How did they sell anything before Kickstarter??

 RiTides wrote:
Could someone link me to something about "Wrath of Kings"? I don't know what that refers to.

- http://pinsofwar.com/wrath-of-kings/ (an article on my blog)

- http://wrathofkings.com/index.html (official site)

- http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/wrath-of-kings (Existing minis in the CMON shop)

- http://www.coolminiornot.com/thelegion/Wok_Demo_Rules.pdf (Wrath of Kings full play-test rules... links to pdf)


Also

- http://www.confrontationphoenix.com/ (Confrontation Phoenix)

Likely the next record-breaker. Confrontation will be big by all accounts.

Took me a while to find it here's the Wrath of Kings Rules

http://www.coolminiornot.com/thelegion/Wok_Demo_Rules.pdf

Confrontation Pheonix should have the rules available from the start as Guilds of Cadwallon backers will get them prior to the KS starting

EDIT: ah I see Zweischneid included the link now

Thanks, Z and DaveC!

DaveC, you're always getting ninja'ed

 RiTides wrote:


I agree that Confrontation would be an amazing project. One worth doing a Kickstarter for, that I might actually consider. These smaller projects just seem like a bit of a money grab to me, though... striking while the iron is hot and before people have realized that for small games like this that are 95% done, they can literally wait half a year or so and just get it then.

But that wouldn't be fun. Part of why Kickstarter is such a success is because it is such a merry group-"shopping" experience. You get to hang out in the comments, chat about the next stretch-goal, parade your "I am a backer" badge around the internet, etc., etc.. . You are part of the "in-group".

Kickstarter is quickly becoming the internet-version of "a group of girls go out for a Saturday and buy shoes". It's a success, precisely because it flips things that the "anonymous" hyper-efficient-online-1-click-shop like Amazon, etc... wouldn't sell. Kickstarter makes "shopping" a "social" thing again. Who cares if you never wear the shoes you bought in the end?

[edit]

Yeah, I was googling for the rules and edited them in, probably while Dave was posting. No intend there to ninja anyone.

RTides - wrath of kings is going to be an absolute blast to play and the models are fuggin gorgeous.

I can see a 150 sweet spot pledge there making sense as the impression I got from talking to the devs indicated the starters would have between 40-50 models.

I love the resins I have and I really can't wait for that KS.

Well I'm in for $90 .. I hope they don't make all the new stretch goals just for the $150 level like the 125k is .. can't really afford more than this.

 Necros wrote:
Well I'm in for $90 .. I hope they don't make all the new stretch goals just for the $150 level like the 125k is .. can't really afford more than this.

I have a feeling most of the stretch goals are gonna be for the 150 pledge since they said in the description that it was the "sweet spot".

 Necros wrote:
Well I'm in for $90 .. I hope they don't make all the new stretch goals just for the $150 level like the 125k is .. can't really afford more than this.

Well on the bright side at least you get extra bikes and a gun

 cincydooley wrote:
RTides - wrath of kings is going to be an absolute blast to play and the models are fuggin gorgeous.

I can see a 150 sweet spot pledge there making sense as the impression I got from talking to the devs indicated the starters would have between 40-50 models.

I love the resins I have and I really can't wait for that KS.

so less models than zombiecide and sedition wars then ? but over twice the cost ? and as the models are allready designed and produced in resin and sold on the CMON site and the kickstarter wont have any effect on the rules side of it , i really dont see why it needs one ?
its just a weak excusse to get peoples money early and pre order.
i suppose the same thing could of been said of sedition wars but those were more inocent halcyon days lol

 CURNOW wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
RTides - wrath of kings is going to be an absolute blast to play and the models are fuggin gorgeous.

I can see a 150 sweet spot pledge there making sense as the impression I got from talking to the devs indicated the starters would have between 40-50 models.

I love the resins I have and I really can't wait for that KS.

so less models than zombiecide and sedition wars then ? but over twice the cost ? and as the models are allready designed and produced in resin and sold on the CMON site and the kickstarter wont have any effect on the rules side of it , i really dont see why it needs one ?
its just a weak excusse to get peoples money early and pre order.
i suppose the same thing could of been said of sedition wars but those were more inocent halcyon days lol

I encourage you to look at them first. Many of the will not be man sized miniatures. The resin ones are a pretty standard 12-20 bucks per man sized model. They can't afford to do the whole game resin, which is why the game is moving to Kickstarter to get the armies tooled for plastic.

But you know, talking out of your ass when you know nothing about it is fun too.