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I don't have any myself but I've been wondering is the terrorgheist as good as it seems, I mean I know it might die quickly but from what I have seen the scream could potentially kill a empire general on griffon in one go. Hel this thing can scream in a combat and still fight surely I'm missing something!!??

You do not want to get it into combat, it's rather weak for a monster and crumble will do the rest. I don't like it because of that.

Having said that I know that lots of others use it effectively.

Pretty good. He's cheap. Doesn't have much defense for an 8th monster.

I find him stupidly amazing.
In a list with lots of casting power, the damage he dishes out is unstoppable.
The new FAQ lets him scream into a combat he isn't in, all you have to do is bog down your opponent and turn him loose.
I've had a lot of luck with mortis engine and terrorghiest as a combo. Gives me plenty of boost to keeping my opponent bogged down, and ups the gheists regen to 5+.

-Matt

Issue is really just protecting them, otherwise their amazing.

Yeah they seem cool, am I right about them having the potential to easily scream a dragon to death in a turn?

There is the potential for 18-LD wounds, most monsters won't have more than 6 wounds and can't have more than 10 LD.

Wow thats awesome!

They also add their current wounds to the roll for the Scream IIRC. So a full health Terrorghiest will be forcing a ld test at 3D6+6 IIRC. Thats an average of 16 for the roll, so 6 wounds caused assuming the target was Ld10.

Of course don't expect to make it to scream range without taking some damage. Anyone who knows what they can do will shoot them and shoot them a lot.

it's 2d6, not 3d6.

Yeah if I recall it is 2D6. 3D6 is the sort of thing matt ward would do if he got into warhammer fantasy

It adds wounds though too. so it's better than 3D6 most times.

So to summarise the terrorgheist is basically a massive dragon killing cannon made out of rice cakes

Cannon has vastly greater range. And the TG can do more than fine just chewing on stuff. It's just mostly got its T/W to defend it. People know what a cannon can do and can't do much about it. They can do something about a TG because of its short range.

I wouldn't say it's job is to kill dragons either. Since that's a really sucky job. It's just a bonus. It's a lotsa wounds causing monster with not the best defense.

DukeRustfield wrote:
Cannon has vastly greater range. And the TG can do more than fine just chewing on stuff. It's just mostly got its T/W to defend it. People know what a cannon can do and can't do much about it. They can do something about a TG because of its short range.

I wouldn't say it's job is to kill dragons either. Since that's a really sucky job. It's just a bonus. It's a lotsa wounds causing monster with not the best defense.

Hmm I think you took that a bit too literally there, I mean its not an actually a cannon it just behaves like a toned down one to me. I meant it could kill dragons not that is it only role. There are better things for that role. Sorry for the confusion

I ran mine for the first time in my last game. It was pretty incredible, though I had to show the rules and FAQ for the opponent. It seems almost too good to be true. I would keep it out of combat if you can help it. I managed to get mine stuck in against an opposing chariot, but it failed to do anything but slow me for two turns. The scream is pretty sick for sure.

I would suggest that you tie up a target with zombies and just keep the TG off to the side and scream the opponent to death.

Stay close to a Necro so you keep your wounds high for max effect.

BaconUprising wrote:

DukeRustfield wrote:
Cannon has vastly greater range. And the TG can do more than fine just chewing on stuff. It's just mostly got its T/W to defend it. People know what a cannon can do and can't do much about it. They can do something about a TG because of its short range.

I wouldn't say it's job is to kill dragons either. Since that's a really sucky job. It's just a bonus. It's a lotsa wounds causing monster with not the best defense.

Hmm I think you took that a bit too literally there, I mean its not an actually a cannon it just behaves like a toned down one to me. I meant it could kill dragons not that is it only role. There are better things for that role. Sorry for the confusion

I find it better than a cannon.
Very short range, but no possible misfire, no missing the target on a bad bounce, no roll to wound, and the scream mechanic is a lot better than D6 wounds. 2D6+remaining wounds has a better bell curve than just D6 wounds.
But of course it's better than a cannon, it cost ~twice as much.
Of course the cannon hits the dragon and the rider, but who the hell runs dragons anyway?
What terrorgiests are really good at is killing other vampire count players. Seriously, leaderships in a vampire army are horribly low.

As for the Terrorgheist arrive intact, I haven't had an issue. I run 1 with a mortis engine, so I've got very easy to cast invokes, healing 2 per casting to the ghiest, and giving it the 5+ regen.


-Matt

Yeah that is the sort of way I think I will run one when I get one. And trust me I will be getting one...

I roll on dubs with them. 1 draws to much fire. Stay out of range of 2x shooters like skink blow pipes

 Ineedvc2500 wrote:
I roll on dubs with them. 1 draws to much fire. Stay out of range of 2x shooters like skink blow pipes

They work wonders against skinks. Ld6? If the skinks are isolated, you're going to do some serious damage. Cold Blooded doesn't help defend against the screaming.

-Matt

But why would you waste the Scream on Skinks? I suppose unless you didn't have a better target you would, but given the choice of screaming at some Skinks or a Stegadon/Templeguard unit I would never scream at the skinks.

Grey is right. Unfortunatly they would run up on me while i was screaming at somethin else and pop the gheist quick. Lizzies no likey terrorfheists. Either the slann would pop it or the skinks would. Had to charge into combat a couple games to avoid that

DukeRustfield wrote:
It adds wounds though too. so it's better than 3D6 most times.

the initial poster said it was 3d6+6.

anyways, i like to run two. i've seen two of them destroy an entire unit of DE cold one riders in one turn. rolled very well though. a 10 and then a 9. killed everything including the hero.

Had my first game with mine today, and it was awesome! a lucky roll by me and it wiped out a unit of ogres in 2 rounds

However wouldn't like to take it against lizzies, dwarves or empire due to cannons or just sheer about of poison attacks

putrid one wrote:
Had my first game with mine today, and it was awesome! a lucky roll by me and it wiped out a unit of ogres in 2 rounds

However wouldn't like to take it against lizzies, dwarves or empire due to cannons or just sheer about of poison attacks

It's good against lizzies. Their poison range is crap. It isn't tough to box out the poison and then start screaming into combat.

-Matt

What about poisoned blowpipes on the Stegadon? Pretty sure they have a longer range than the scream. Or even the bolt thrower weapon?