Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Yes.
Imagine the collections I would make!
All that art...all that music...I would be just like Trazyn the Infinite, except 10% more insane from the loneliness.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
infinite_array wrote: I have to ask - did the person who offered me the immortality have it in the first place? Can it then be passed on?
If so, then hell yes - it gives me all the time in the world for the Chosen One to be born, and then pass on the immortality to him/her.
To answer that its open to interpretations, I like riddles, and this is a riddle. Can you find the answer to the riddle? The Riddle has no right answer, it is what ever you think it is.
And no you cannot pass it. You will forever be alone, your immortal genes stick to you and no one else.
Its really an open ended question my own thoughts I really don't want to share because my thoughts on this matter are quite offensive to a large amount of teenagers my age. Most kids my age see death as kind of the end all be all. I see it more as the next journey. Here are my thoughts on humanity. Notice I am writer who has used two immortal characters in their stories, and I recently read a few very interesting books. I plan on asking kids of my age the same question. I know what to expect from some though.
Spoiler:
Being immortal would be cool and all but you would still experience pain, fear, hate, loss, a lot of loss, seeing as you would be all thats left of your generation and your family in the next thousand years. Yes I would get to see my descendants but so what. Thats a small time compared to the next millennial where humanity might not exist. A trillion years when universe has ended and restarted you will be alone, absolutely and positively alone. No guidance, nothing, just you by yourself, the only thing that comforts you is yourself. You would be all that was left of humanity. Your memories would be entrenched with details. But you are so far removed from the rest of the universe that you have no idea. A new universe sprouts up and begins a new cycle, you will forever be bound to existance, never to die, just to watch and observe. Immortality is a curse, there is nothing more worse than seeing a death of a civilization over and over again, even of a race.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Easy E wrote: Only if I get a sweet theme song by Queen and the chance to battle other immortals to cut off their heads and gain the power of the Quickening.
Edit: I'm also not convinced Madness is by default "a bad thing".
Indeed, after a few millienia I'd just change my name to Sheogorath. And then mad fun begins
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Well I personnaly look it from this viewpoint: Life is a piece of time in which I can complete any achievement I want, say family, love, friendship, etc. But with immortality and the missing death, I do not have that time restriction which would mean, I could achieve ANYTHING.
Now sounds good doesnt it?
There comes a point which has been mentioned a few times in this thread: The achievements are not eternal! I would have to see my family crumble to dust and my love die. My greatest inventions would be forgotten as the time passes.
Achieving everything only to see it crumble is a torture no being could survive and hope to preserve its sanity, being immortal or not.
"What is the greatest illusion of life?"
"Innocence, brother, innocence."
Would my body become old and frail? I'm assuming if I regenerated from wounds, body wear and tear would be fixed as these are "wounds". So a few things might happen. I would never age past my "prime" leaving me somewhere between 24 and 35. At that age, it would be fairly simple to spend a few centuries traveling town to town taking over a new identity once every 50 to 75 years. There are too many people in the world for someone to recognize you and go, "Uncle bob? Is that you?" It would give you plenty of chances to see the world, explore all of it's wonders. I could see spending a lifetime or so in each country of the world, hoping for the day where we finally take to the stars. Once we do this, away we go! The other thing about the "fixing of my body" is that it could in theory burn away things that prevent you from being the best you that you can achieve. This means no illness, no loss of limb or functionality, and maybe even a new chiseled physique. So getting the ladies wouldn't be too hard to do based on pure looks, and as someone that has seen centuries of life, you would be very well learned.
So there is that. One also has to remember that as you age, time seems to speed up. days, months, years, go faster simply because you've experienced them more. After a thousand years or so, a century won't seem like much, a month, a day, a year... all small potatoes. I think that is what could giving living forever it's advantage. Eventually time would move at such a pace that you would be experiencing millenia as though they were days.
I wouldn't mind being immortal and invincible. I might actually find some painting time.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/08 15:25:23
DR:80+S++G+M+B+I+Pwmhd11#++D++A++++/sWD-R++++T(S)DM+ Ask me about Brushfire or Endless: Fantasy Tactics
I'm, sure it would be interesting. For at least a couple centuries.
Considering you're in it for the long haul, the interest of a few centuries would be as nothing to you.
It would to start with...
Though I have a poor memory so i'll likely find myself endlessly entertained...
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze "You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry.
I'm, sure it would be interesting. For at least a couple centuries.
Considering you're in it for the long haul, the interest of a few centuries would be as nothing to you.
It would to start with...
Though I have a poor memory so i'll likely find myself endlessly entertained...
Think of all the booze you could drink purps! You'd never have to worry about liver damage, or alcohol poisoning!
Oh woah...
You could have some legendary nights out...
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze "You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry.
SilverMK2 wrote: The super healing is interesting - would it stop you being augmented with machines, implants or genetic modifications?
This could be a deal-breaker for me, I don't think I could watch humanity progress to a post-human state and be left behind. If I was allowed to become cybernetic or merge my conciousness with a computer then it's all good.
I think I'd still say yes though if it came down to it, I really want to see what happens with us next, and what an ice age looks like in person.
tyrant of loserville wrote: Id ask if he wanted to die and if he is trying to get rid of his immortality. If that was his only salvation I would take it even knowing I could not do the same.
What would happen if I went comatose or hibernation along the lines of millions of years? Would the rules stop the coma or prolonged sleep? When the universe compresses back to zero what happens to my body and consciousness?
The universe is expanding at an increasing rate, it cannot re-compress via the current understanding of physics. It will simply continue to expand until the space between matter is so vast that there is literally no free energy left and the universes temperature reaches a flat average. It'll suck, and you, as the undestroyable one, will sit there floating in an endless expanse of dark vacuum.
I have to join the nay-sayers here and say, that immortality, such as you have laid it out, would be miserable. No thanks.
When your wife suggests roleplay as a result of your table top gaming... life just seems right
I took my wife thru the BRB for fantasy and 40k, the first thing she said was "AWESOME"... codex: Chaos Daemons Nurgle..... to all those who says God aint real....
Something interesting to find out would be the age ranges Or life experiences of those who favor immortality and those who wouldn't want it.
For myself, I've been around long enough to see friends and family die in all manner of ways and really wouldn't want an eternity of that.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/08 17:32:19
Relapse wrote: Something interesting to find out would be the age ranges Or life experiences of those who favor immortality and those who wouldn't want it.
For myself, I've been around long enough to see friends and family die in all manner of ways and really wouldn't want an eternity of that.
I suspect you would get over it, eventually. Much as you get over a group of friends that you have since moved away from. There are always more, platonic and otherwise, fish in the sea.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
The population genetics implications of me being able to insert my genetic code into mankind's genepool that often over time are defintely pretty interesting!
I think I'd say yes. I would want to see what happens, I don't want to die, and I think I could deal with the side effects, they wouldn't be that much worse than aging and decaying and dying anyway.
Easy E wrote: Only if I get a sweet theme song by Queen and the chance to battle other immortals to cut off their heads and gain the power of the Quickening.
Edit: I'm also not convinced Madness is by default "a bad thing".
Wins the thread!
Not Easy E, but Freddie Mercury.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
thakabalpuphorsefishguy wrote: The universe is expanding at an increasing rate, it cannot re-compress via the current understanding of physics. It will simply continue to expand until the space between matter is so vast that there is literally no free energy left and the universes temperature reaches a flat average. It'll suck, and you, as the undestroyable one, will sit there floating in an endless expanse of dark vacuum.
Highlighted the important part. Your continued existence in the heat death of the universe violates the laws of physics, so the laws of physics have to change to grant you immortality.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2013/01/08 22:58:18
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Highlighted the important part. Your continued existence in the heat death of the universe violates the laws of physics, so the laws of physics have to change to grant you immortality.
Who assumed a heat death of the Universe (and you must assume it)? Certainly not I, nor the person you quoted. That only leaves everyone else, and you; but only one of those sets is relevant here.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2013/01/08 23:21:31
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
dogma wrote: Who assumed a heat death of the Universe (and you must assume it)? Certainly not I, nor the person you quoted. That only leaves everyone else, and you; but only one of those sets is relevant here.
Err, what? You do realize that the person I quoted described the heat death of the universe even if they didn't use the words "heat death" in the process, right?
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2013/01/09 00:34:22
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Da Boss wrote: The population genetics implications of me being able to insert my genetic code into mankind's genepool that often over time are defintely pretty interesting!
That's an interesting way to put getting laid, does that line pretty well?
2013/01/09 03:59:48
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Err, what? You do realize that the person I quoted described the heat death of the universe even if they didn't use the words "heat death" in the process, right?
Heat death paradox.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2013/01/09 04:29:38
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
That doesn't even make any sense as a reply. Did you just throw some random words together to avoid admitting that you were wrong?
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.