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Haters gotta hate I guess.

Well, "rape crew" anyone?

Saw this on CBS world news sometime ago.

Their (India's) idea of the crime of rape seems to be vastly different than ours and many other nations. Getting rape seems to be blamed on the woman, most cases are not reported because of the stigma it impacts on victim's life and one man even commited suicidewhen his daughter was rape because it affects the entire family.

A bit disturbing.

Glad there is a small element of people trying to change the culture (for lack of a better term) and trying to bring the scumbags to justice.

 Necroshea wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
For those at work....

"The people who are there in the police, judiciary, politics — they are old minds trying to deal with new problems," she said.

More like old minds who can't get with the program. It's 2013 and we're still having this kind of gender inequality.

Sad day.

I'd say not everyone can be as advanced as those of us in the West, but that would be politically incorrect

Just don't get why everyone doesn't want to be like "Murrca.

Our record on rape isn't worth boasting about in the west either, in fact it's still pitiful, best not to throw stones when there's still so much glass around. Look at the rape stats, the relevant conviction rates and the numbers of people who still say things like 'she was asking for it dressed like that'.

Only two pages in but so far Dakka has not blamed the victim. /applause

Well what can we blame the victim for? Not dying from the beating before she was violently raped?

 Manchu wrote:
Only two pages in but so far Dakka has not blamed the victim. /applause

Well, to be fair, the lawyer in the article blamed the victim.

Man DakkaDakka talks about rape a lot, would anyone else describe this site as "rapey"?

Just to add to the fun, they disembowled her before chucking her from the bus.

My mum works all over there...

Those guys need to suffer some lead poisoning...

Preferably some .45 caliber lead poisoning amiright

 Grey Templar wrote:
Preferably some .45 caliber lead poisoning amiright

You read my mind!

Don't worry, their lawyer is now saying the police beat them and placed other hostile prisoners in their cell.

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Don't worry, their lawyer is now saying the police beat them and placed other hostile prisoners in their cell.

That's not really far fetched. They probably did get the gak kicked out of them by the cops, which raises my sympathy for them exactly none.
Cause it's not like they were beaten, raped, and thrown in the gutter to die.

 whembly wrote:
My mum works all over there...

Those guys need to suffer some lead poisoning...

Tungsten poisoning, vitamin W as I like to call it

 AustonT wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Don't worry, their lawyer is now saying the police beat them and placed other hostile prisoners in their cell.

That's not really far fetched. They probably did get the gak kicked out of them by the cops, which raises my sympathy for them exactly none.
Cause it's not like they were beaten, raped, and thrown in the gutter to die.

Actualy, what at least two of them are saying is that they were beaten until they were forced to sign a confession and they were not involved at all... But then why let facts interfear wirh a good witch hunt.

This is one of the major problems with the case. The police are trying to get a conviction but often in india they don't care who is convicted as long as it looks like they have done something. Its easy to pick up someone of a low cast and beat them until they confess, because " they must have done something, .right, because they are low cast".

Wether they are guilty or not police violence brings doubt in to the case. Unfortunatly too many police around the world think that it is a case of "well we arrested them so they MUST be guilty" and too many people agree.

No, but really. They make me ashamed to be the same species. I honestly can't think of much better than living on a different planet to these people.

It's awful this crime. The lawyer must be an idiot. But equally, after thousands of rape cases, even by politicians, the Indian government and people decide that they want to take action? Only after 6 men did such an awful crime? And what about cases in Africa such as the Congo? Does anyone care about the little black girl who got raped by soldiers and has now contracted HIV?

What the Indian people want to happen to the rapists is quite disturbing as well. Let me take a few comments from Yahoo:

They are no different than a pack of rabid wild dogs and need to be put down, any human who commits this type of crime is defective and cannot be fixed. I hear there are many in India who commit rape, weed them out and be done with it or their society will never evolve and become civilized.

Kill them all... slowly and painfully... let them suffer ...

How could anyone think that a 17 year-old who did that should get out after 3 years in a reform facility? Such a person is not reformable.

A better punishment is eat by the tiger.

Google it to see more stuff.

It's awful what some people are suggesting. I don't care about the crime, it's punishment enough when your name is plastered across the headlines of the world.

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
It's awful this crime. The lawyer must be an idiot. But equally, after thousands of rape cases, even by politicians, the Indian government and people decide that they want to take action? Only after 6 men did such an awful crime? And what about cases in Africa such as the Congo? Does anyone care about the little black girl who got raped by soldiers and has now contracted HIV?

This is largely due to the old problem of 1 being a person, 1000000 being a statistic. It required one specific case to be picked out and highlighted for people to see it as the crime it is.

And TBH, I don't see the problem with people thinking that such things are just punishments, just so long as no-one ever listens to them. If they think that's what it deserves, who's to stop them from saying so? It's still a million miles away from those punishments happening.

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
It's awful what some people are suggesting. I don't care about the crime, it's punishment enough when your name is plastered across the headlines of the world.

Yes, just imagine having to live with the bad press that comes from gang raping women to death.

That's not my point.

Imagine it if everyone knew that you had raped a woman to death. How hard it would be later on in life, should you be fine and not get the death penalty.

Funnily enough, my sympathies are not with such a person.

Mine aren't either. You just can't punish people like that.

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
That's not my point.

Imagine it if everyone knew that you had raped a woman to death. How hard it would be later on in life, should you be fine and not get the death penalty.

If someone was guilty of raping a woman to death, I would have no problem with putting them in a position where they didn't have to worry about later life. According to what I've read, the woman in this case literally had her guts hanging out when she was chucked into the street.

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
That's not my point.

Imagine it if everyone knew that you had raped a woman to death. How hard it would be later on in life, should you be fine and not get the death penalty.

In India, it doesn't seem to matter. Still, if (as you say) we can't punish people like that, we can execute them and let God pronounce judgement. Even if the athiests are right about the universe, we're still one scumbag less on the world so it's win-win either way.

I'm not sure that you would like it should you have committed such a crime. Anyway, living so close to India, the hatred radiates from the country. They won't live for five seconds after leaving prison.

What is it with the buses in India. Another rape is reported in connection with one:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/13/16490382-reports-6-held-over-new-india-bus-gang-rape?lite

Steve steveson wrote:

 AustonT wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Don't worry, their lawyer is now saying the police beat them and placed other hostile prisoners in their cell.

That's not really far fetched. They probably did get the gak kicked out of them by the cops, which raises my sympathy for them exactly none.
Cause it's not like they were beaten, raped, and thrown in the gutter to die.

Actualy, what at least two of them are saying is that they were beaten until they were forced to sign a confession and they were not involved at all... But then why let facts interfear wirh a good witch hunt.

This is one of the major problems with the case. The police are trying to get a conviction but often in india they don't care who is convicted as long as it looks like they have done something. Its easy to pick up someone of a low cast and beat them until they confess, because " they must have done something, .right, because they are low cast".

Wether they are guilty or not police violence brings doubt in to the case. Unfortunatly too many police around the world think that it is a case of "well we arrested them so they MUST be guilty" and too many people agree.

Careful there. OT doesn't like to hear anything not having to do with blindly punishing people.

Steve steveson wrote:

 AustonT wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Don't worry, their lawyer is now saying the police beat them and placed other hostile prisoners in their cell.

That's not really far fetched. They probably did get the gak kicked out of them by the cops, which raises my sympathy for them exactly none.
Cause it's not like they were beaten, raped, and thrown in the gutter to die.

Actualy, what at least two of them are saying is that they were beaten until they were forced to sign a confession and they were not involved at all... But then why let facts interfear wirh a good witch hunt.

Ahh, so since the same source said the woman is responsible for her rape, then blamed the mail companion are those "facts" too?

Prosecutor Rajiv Mohan said last week that a DNA test confirmed that the blood of the victim matched blood stains found on the clothes of all the accused.

But they SAID they were innocent?!? That means they are, facts. You said so yourself. Let's not let DNA get in the way of facts right? Right.

I am appalled at the individuals in this thread who think a hanging is too good for this scum.