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Well tyranids are the most visually different army. Everyone else has the same general shapes. You know guy, guy with big back pack, big box that you claim is a tank. They are also the most earthy fraction.

Women are in fact a hive mind of carnivorous monsters. This is why they identify so quickly with the Tyranid.

My wife actually fully intends to start playing once my daughter is old enough to start with her, but she wants to do fantasy since she is more familiar with that setting. I have like 5 years til this even starts yet I am really looking forward to it.

Which leads to a question for the OP. Do you see more women going to warhammer fantasy as opposed to 40k?

I admit I skimmed a bit through this thread, but one odd theme has stuck out for me: Tyranids are appealing to women? I find that odd, because all of the women I ever met who played WFB and W40K played Orks.

It's funny how the tyranid thing seems to be a pretty universal observation. About half of the women I've seen playing have been nids and the other half have been pretty varied. The only army I have never seen a woman play is SoB.

These types of stereotypes are everywhere though and most people are stupid enough to go along with them. For example, read an article in a baby magazine or something. I have never seen one not referencing a specific baby that uses male pronouns. Babies are always female. Its even worse when I take my sons out anywhere. People don't care that they are wearing blue clothing with trucks and phrases like "tough guy," they just want to tell me how cute "she" is and ask how old "she" is. And for those of you who think this was an isolated incident, this is a weekly occurrance.

As to the elevation of women in 40k to near deity status, I think that most of it is due to lack of normal and positive interaction with females in daily life for the average 40k player than anything else.

Very nice video. Interesting to kind of see the hobby through the eyes of a girl/woman. Funny hearing how you thought it was all kiddy and nerdy, and then you end up standing in front of GW wanting to buy stuff.

I absolutely believe women are treated differently, in gaming (virtual or tabletop) and on the internet. That is why so many women hide their sex to the general populace when they go online.

However, the owner of my FLGS is a woman and there is a female Nid player in the area.

Damn, what is with females and the bugs? Wierd...

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis

Never be afraid of liking the things you like.


"These are games for... The more intelligent sort of girl.". -. H.G. Wells, "Little Wars" the first widely popular and well - known wargaming rules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEC7dsFlvIE


BTW if you've ever seen Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, you've totally got a Ramona Flowers thing going on, if you haven't it's still a pretty cool movie.

On painting, yeah your probably better than me, when my Blood Ravens show up you'll see.

In all seriousness, painting is more about finess and having hands deft enough to steadily paint tiny details with a small brush. This doesn't bode well for me, compounded by the fact that i have unsteady hands, painting is tough for me.

I don't think for a minute that women gamers are anymore special that guys gamers, but the perception that 40k/GW stuff in general is nerdy/manly and no place for a girl would probably keep many main-steam women from pursuing the hobby, which builds the pre-conceived notion that 40k is no place for girls. I applaud you for looking past these false notions and joining the hobby.

Also what army did you pick. I think you covered that, but i must have missed it.

xraytango wrote:
To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, "When I became an adult I gave up childish things including the fear of childish things".
Don't be afraid to like the things you like.

"These are games for... The more intelligent sort of girl.". -. H.G. Wells, "Little Wars" the first widely popular and well - known wargaming rules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEC7dsFlvIE


BTW if you've ever seen Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, you've totally got a Ramona Flowers thing going on, if you haven't it's still a pretty cool movie.

Thank you for that. Clearly the Empire knows how to properly train its leaders.

I edited that post a bit, as I was able to find the actual quote. Still the substance of it remains even if I didn't have it exact.

 ace101 wrote:
On painting, yeah your probably better than me, when my Blood Ravens show up you'll see.

In all seriousness, painting is more about finess and having hands deft enough to steadily paint tiny details with a small brush. This doesn't bode well for me, compounded by the fact that i have unsteady hands, painting is tough for me.

I don't think for a minute that women gamers are anymore special that guys gamers, but the perception that 40k/GW stuff in general is nerdy/manly and no place for a girl would probably keep many main-steam women from pursuing the hobby, which builds the pre-conceived notion that 40k is no place for girls. I applaud you for looking past these false notions and joining the hobby.

Also what army did you pick. I think you covered that, but i must have missed it.

Orks, I think? And Lizardmen.

So, I hate to be stereotypical here, but I think there might be something to the OP's complaint about women picking brightly-colored armies.

I have known three women, in the flesh, who have played 40k. One of them plays demons (of different god types), one of them played eldar (with one of each of the aspect warriors), and one of them played CSM back in the day (with a unit of berzerkers, and one of noise marines, etc.)

What did all three of them have in common? They looked like a skittles bag had been dumped out on the table when they put their minis down.

It would be interesting to see if women do, in fact, for some reason, prefer bright, high-contrast, high-saturation color schemes. Or, as an ancillary, if women tend to prime white more than men do.

This thread pretty much sums up the stereotypical "holy gak there's a woman here" reaction. Whether it's involuntary/instinctive, or lampshaded (like thecaptain or myself demonstrate) it's hard to have a genuinely "neutral" thread sometimes. On forums most women I've noticed either don't make a big deal about mentioning it (where theyre perceived as just another guy on the forums) or they just stick around so long that they become "one of the guys", and people accept it. Which is how it goes in stores to a degree.

In my area I know of a few women playing 40k. One is the wife of a regular, and plays (wait for it) eldar. She absolutely hates painting, and I think she chose eldar purely for their background. I met another woman at another store who also played eldar, although she seemed relatively new and young (couldnt have been past her teens) so I'm not sure why she got into the hobby or why she picked eldar.

One thing I will point out though is that what you're experiencing is something women experience in any "male" hobby. If I'm in a video game store, and a moderately attractive woman in her 20's comes in through the door, you can see on every man's face "is she here because she plays games, or to get them for her brother/boyfriend/significant other". Awkward moments follow, the few guys who can behave in public feel like grognards and the grognards feel their typical feelings, and the circle of life is complete. It either ends in people getting over it, or in the woman being sufficiently scared off and finding a new store/hobby. Same goes for when I'm in guitar shops in the electric guitar section (you're a chick and you play electric guitar? let me show you the token pink stratocaster we keep on the wall, I'll give you a free lesson) or comic book stores, hiking and sporting outfitters, gun stores, stagehand work, etc. These are considered "masculine" activities, so when a woman walks in, throws down her orks and goes "alright who's up for an 1850 game?" Most guys will feel a bit confused. I will admit I felt it myself a few times when I first got into the hobby, but that was mainly because I hadn't learned there were normal people that were into 40k as well (I really believed the stereotypes, because I was an idiot back then)

It's a sentiment that seems to be gradually wearing away as more and more women get into these hobbies and are open about it, but I have a feeling these awkward situations will continue as long as people consider this a "nerdy" hobby for severly autistic guys with neckbeards and cheeto covered fingers.

Normally I'd say "who cares if she's a girl or a boy it shouldn't effect anything" but since this whole OP is about gender differences in 40k that's all a bit moot....

Ma55ter_fett wrote:I do think there is a relation between boobs and increased praise.
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Whether people deny or confirm it it is definitely true. The girl in question could be equally if not better than other men in the same situation, but because shes a she and not hideous looking she has way more attention.
Forget her name as it was eons ago, but back when SC2 was new there was a girl streamer that was a model irl. She played in SILVER league so she was a bit below-average, and still had several thousand viewers all the time.


Anyway onto the OP:

I'd have to agree on that guy's comment saying girls are typically better painters than men. I sincerely doubt its the makeup, since makeup rarely involves drybrushing or a wash coat over what you just put on (far as i know anyway). I think its more attention to detail because...ok guys be honest what girl have you been with that NEVER brought up something you did that pissed her off YEARS ago and remember it in detail? lol
Personally the little effects of painting is the hard part to me because i keep overlooking most of it. I just painted a Ghazzy for instance and when i was takin pics i noticed i totally forgot to add the chipped paint effect to his legs rofl. The only girl i know that paints (i.e. the only girl i know that even plays) spends easily twice the time i do per model and loves every minute of it. And does better lol.

Hmm. Well, first and foremost, obviously girls/women do get special treatment in male-dominated hobbies, whether it's wargaming, video games, high-end audio or whatever else. Of course, this "special treatment" can be on either end of the spectrum, from overt praise and politeness to hostility and sexist remarks. I do see more of the former type, though. Which, I reckon, is the better option, even if "neutral" would technically be even better. I aim for neutrality, but growing up I came to believe in a sort of "old-fashioned" way where a man should treat women respectfully, so it probably shows in compared to how I behave with men. This sort of behavior wasn't "pushed" on me or anything, but somehow I ended up adopting it anyway despite no real role models for that effect. Egh. Who knows why, and really, who cares

As for girls being better painters. I can't say I have a huge statistical study to back it up, but I do know that back in the day in elementary and high school the case was that on average girls were better at art, whether drawing or painting. Better grades, and better-looking results. Now, perhaps it was just because the girls liked doing it more or whatever, but that was the end result regardless. Kind of the same with fiction writing assignments, as well. Might very well be different elsewhere though.

Locally we don't really have women doing wargaming that I know of, except for one that I think does play Mordheim at least. But then, this is a small place (~50k population) and by my best estimate we only have probably at most 20-25 40k players, and fewer even semi-active ones. Our local 4-tournament series had 10, 15, 11 and 11 players, with 15 unique invididuals participating. On top of these I only really know a couple of others that play, but I assume there's some that are less active or play in a place other than the LGS that I don't know, after all I'm still relatively new to the 40k scene myself, having started in the summer. In any case, my list of known 40k players includes no women. The girlfriends of most of the players seem supportive of the hobby when they drop by the store, but don't appear to "partake" in it themselves. Not having any women wargamers means I can't from experience comment on their army choices, but I wouldn't be surprised if the criteria for choosing one would be different from men's (mine's simply rule of cool, though coolness is of course up to the "beholder"). But whether or not that criteria is what men assume it to be is another thing entirely

It's also hard to say whether women are more likely to view wargaming and other such hobbies as juvenile/childish/whatever than men - my guess is that it's likely, but certainly there's no shortage of men that view it as such, as well. I don't really care much, as most things can be considered juvenile. Like hanging around in bars every weekend, or endlessly pimping cars. Pfft. Or even chasing a leather ball around a grass field, ie football (or soccer, for those on the other side of the ocean), or chasing the puck in a hockey rink. Which is not to say that I mind if someone likes tuning cars, and I like playing football - not that I ever get the chance anymore - but it's funny that some things are somehow more grown-up when, when you get right down to it, they are just as "childish". In the end anyone that doesn't "accept" my hobbies such as this can take a hike for all I care, woman or not You don't have to have the same hobby, but start dissing it as childish or whatever based on an arbitrary viewpoint, and you're out.

On that note, as we all probably know video games are quite mainstream these days, even among women. There's a lot of female video game buyers at the LGS, for example, while going back about 12 years I can't recall much in the way of any of the girls at our high school being gamers of basically any degree. However I feel wargaming is something that's not likely to reach that status at any point. Whether that's good or bad, who's to say. I think I'm more inclined towards good than bad, though, as with video games I feel the impact of a more widespread appeal of the medium has on average led to the deteoration in the innovativeness and increased, even overt simplification of the games.

It's kind of funny but my wife plays this as well and shares some of the same opinions as the OP. She also loves her orks.

I asked her the reasons she plays is #1 cause I play lol

#2 the bright colors are very attractive which is why she likes orks, chaos daemons, and CSM. Painted to be very bright colors and it's very kind on the eyes. Incidentially I'm starting sisters and she does like the order of the sacred rose color scheme and we're stripping some old ebay models right now to paint up the new scheme.

#3 She doesn't like my grey colored krieg regiment and not a big fan of boxy tanks like the storm raven/land raider/rhinos/LR's. Just aren't sleek enough. On the flip side, she also doesn't like Tau cause they don't look that good either but it's personal preferance as she puts it "needs more wings" whatever that means.

#4 She likes the orks for the simple stragety and the fact she gets to roll some 60 dice and act out death scenes with typical orky hilarity. She's not really interested in the list building side of things as she's not competitive at all or so she claims (but play a few rounds of spades with her and you'll see that she's just as competitive and personally I feel that she's just not as sure of the rules and how to abuse said rules that turns her off the competitive scene)

#5 She doesn't like the nids despite the eariler posts in this thread as she doesn't really understand their motivation and find them kind of bland. The models despite having flashy colors also doesn't really suit her asthetically so no, not all girls like the tentacles. Sorry guys.

Orks rule. I picked them for the same reason: they look awesome. I didnt even know the basics of the game before i already bought a good chunk of them and assembled them illegally rofl (double slugga POWA!!)

 Ailaros wrote:


So, a few other questions along the lines of the podcast.

Firstly, most places on the internet (including dakka) are gender neutral. Do you feel that you are treated differently than if people knew you were a woman? Do you feel that people treat you differently once they know?

Do you feel that you are more attracted to men who are also 40k gamers, or are the neckbeards and stench too great to overcome? I came from a background as a video gamer in my teens, and when I met my woman, the only one she had played was solitaire. After we got married, I slowly started to introduce her. Is 40k something you look for, or is it something you think you can wean a future beau onto?

Does it bother you that people assume that women are naturally good painters? Do you ever feel that you get feedback on your painting that is dishonest because of your gender?

At my FLGS, people swear all the time (your rolled NINE 5+ FNP saves!?! Well, here's what I have to say about that...). Do you think that people in gaming stores watch their language around you, in a way they might not if you weren't?

Yes I do feel I'm treated differently, i.e. I get more responses to painting threads than guys painting with the same standard. And to be perfectly honest, If I was a bloke posting this video I don't think there would have been this many responses regarding gender differences in the hobby.

Neckbeards, stench and no hygiene is not that attractive no xD However most of the guys I have met and played games with are nothing like that, they dress nicely and are very polite and smell nice so yepp, I am definitely attracted to them. Also the lack of hygiene and all that I have usually only encountered in very specific types of people, they are usually very, well obsessive, with their hobby and that type of person I don't enjoy hanging out with in the first place.

It bothers me a bit - but just because I think it's wrong. No, no dishonest comments so far, I usually ask for feedback seeing as I want to improve but then again I do, usually get more praise then a bloke. If it's because they want to be nice and keep me in the hobby or just to get into my pants I don't know yet

As for the language...in stores I don't know cause I have never played in a store, sometimes it quiets down but then again in that store there are actually two girls on the staff so I think they're quite used to "us". When I play a game against someone I haven't met or played against before and they blurt out stuff like bitch they usually become quite pale and says "oh, no offense" and stuff like that. I always laugh at them because honestly I can be quite rude myself, specially if I'm loosing xD







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 Necroshea wrote:

 GimbleMuggernaught wrote:
I find that most females I talk to about war hammer find it kind of juvenile

These very same people tend to watch jersey shore and all the other trash they put on tv these days. Juvenile and a waste of time indeed.

I second that, never really understood the jersey shore thing xD However I also thinks it boils down to what most girls are raised to think (usually looking at the popular girls in school and how they treat nerdy guys). And I also think is sticks until we are proven wrong - like me When I try to explain to other girls for that matter what I do in my spare time they usually look at me funnily and they have the very same look I have when I looked into those windows to the GW store as if they're thinking: OMG, you're such a nerd! And then they go about their business talking about the new line of handbags from D&G or what not which I find juvenile


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 Melissia wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:
Do you feel that you are treated differently than if people knew you were a woman?

While the other questions I dunno if I can give a good answer for (I swear all the time online even if I fastidiously avoid it IRL, for example), this one I certainly can give an answer to: I KNOW that I am often treated differently based on my perceived gender, from prior experiences using a gender-neutral name and not actually declaring my gender. People default to assume I'm a man unless I or my username said otherwise. Sometimes they assume that I am anyway, in MMOs and other video games, although this is becoming less true as the years go on.

The difference in treatment is often astounding, and it is NOT, despite what is claimed by certain posters, only positive.

For the MMO part: Yes, always assumed to be male: Once I was raiding in Wow and it was a 25man pug and I only knew like two of them. We were all on Vent and some bloke asked me to take care of some adds and I said on Vent: sure. Then it went all silent and suddenly it sounded something like the seagulls in Finding Nemo; You're girl, Is she a girls, girl, girl, can I have your pic, pic for some gold please etc. Took a while to actually get on with the raid xD That wasn't the first time either and sometimes guys would become just a liiittle to creepy...
I haven't experienced that on forums or when playing Warahmmer so far, guys have usually just been very polite and no freaky or creepy suggestions in my emails either so, so far so good. ^^



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 Melissia wrote:
Also, to discuss the video itself... I like your voice, accent, and general style of speaking; you speak with confidence and clarity that many youtubers seem to be incapable of, making your discussion very nice to listen to, and I didn't once have to rewind to try to figure out what you had just said.

So bravo to you on that I think a video series further discussing what you like about warhammer, your various experiences, etc would be quite nice to have, if you have the time to produce them!

Thanks
Yes, I'll try to make those kinds if videos as well


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 Ailaros wrote:
Oh, here's another one.

Do people automatically assume that you're a bad player? Like, you know "girls aren't good at strategy games" kind of a thing?

It would be a little difficult to judge, as every 40k player started out not knowing anything once minis hit tabletop, and you can certainly find people who will be a pedantic ass to you without regard to gender.

On a similar note, do you ever get the feeling that people go easy on you or let you win because you're a girl?

Nope, so far I have been expected to know just as much - which is good! ^^
In the beginning the guys I regularly play with let me win or made nice and easy to beat lists so that I would like the hobby - though that's not because I'm a girl, other dudes they have introduced to the hobby are treated the exact same way. Now they crush me whenever they get a chance though

 Dannyevilguy wrote:
Women are in fact a hive mind of carnivorous monsters. This is why they identify so quickly with the Tyranid.

My wife actually fully intends to start playing once my daughter is old enough to start with her, but she wants to do fantasy since she is more familiar with that setting. I have like 5 years til this even starts yet I am really looking forward to it.

Which leads to a question for the OP. Do you see more women going to warhammer fantasy as opposed to 40k?

I am a girl, who does mainly LOTR but also do 40k. What I've found is that Dutch people mainly seem to do fantasy and in England I am used to 40k players.

The females that I meet usually strictly devote themselves to painting, which is where I got a bit sexist as well that females like painting better.
As for myself I don't know what I like better, I mean I love painting, but there is a big part in collecting as well. I like tactics and power play so I guess
it's not far off from what most guys in my surroundings do too. Then again I might just have picked this view of the hobby because of the guys around me.

I do relate to the OP that when growing up I looked a bit down on hobbyists. For me the only reason for that was jealousy. I'm glad I feel more freedom now to do
whatever I want because I'm my own person
As for armies, I play Dark Angels and have some Eldar squads.
I never heard of lizardmen being a 'female' or 'girly' army, I found that every time I mentioned Eldar people seem to give me a typical comment.
I did choose Eldar because of them being pretty (imo). What's the point in having an army that you don't think is attractive? That would never
feel like a true victory. I do like liking all the aspects of the army including the fluff.

S.

 ace101 wrote:

Also what army did you pick. I think you covered that, but i must have missed it.

I mentioned Orcs and Lizardmen in the video but here's a brief review of my army picking so far ^^:

I started out with Orcs, then Lizardmen and eventually Orcs & Goblins (again the orcs, can't resist...) but then 6th edition came out for 40K, so the orcs and goblins were forgotten (unpainted and everything), and I bought some Grey Knights. In the end though I didn't like having like 15 minis on the board when playing 1500p so I switched to Chaos Daemons which is my primary, and also only fully painted, army at the moment. Then the Dark Vengeance box turned out so great so I couldn't help buying some Chaos Space Marines as well as loads for Dark Angels ^^ So all in all I've picked loads of armies
For now I'm most likely switch between Chaos Daemons, with the space marines as allies, and Dark Angels.

Warhammerlady wrote:
And to be perfectly honest, If I was a bloke posting this video I don't think there would have been this many responses regarding gender differences in the hobby.

It's quite understandable though, even putting aside the "OMG it's a girl, must post" factor that draws people in. After all only a girl can properly/accurately give the "girl perspective". And I suppose us guys all know the "guy perspective" to the hobby in its various forms already, so a guy discussing that wouldn't be as interesting as it's probably nothing we haven't seen before. It's kind of like how I'm from Finland, and it's a lot more interesting to hear a foreigner's opinion on Finland than it is a fellow countryman's... uh... well, I'm sure you get what I mean. And also, if it's a guy discussing girls in the hobby... well, that's been seen a lot too, and it generally revolves around the same recycled viewpoints and generalizations and assumptions and whatnot and probably more often than not is just an attempt to lure out any possible lurkers of the opposing gender on the forum - so nothing new there either.

Not that there aren't plenty of the usual comments in this thread as well, but at least there's also contributions from the "other side", as it were. And gotta say it's been surprisingly civil, overall.

 Vineheart01 wrote:

Personally the little effects of painting is the hard part to me because i keep overlooking most of it. I just painted a Ghazzy for instance and when i was takin pics i noticed i totally forgot to add the chipped paint effect to his legs rofl. The only girl i know that paints (i.e. the only girl i know that even plays) spends easily twice the time i do per model and loves every minute of it. And does better lol.

I do that all the time! And it Always happens when I have finished of a part that required like 8 base coat-blends and 7 highlights and I can't for the life of me remember how I did it xD


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tvih wrote:

Warhammerlady wrote:
And to be perfectly honest, If I was a bloke posting this video I don't think there would have been this many responses regarding gender differences in the hobby.

It's quite understandable though, even putting aside the "OMG it's a girl, must post" factor that draws people in. After all only a girl can properly/accurately give the "girl perspective". And I suppose us guys all know the "guy perspective" to the hobby in its various forms already, so a guy discussing that wouldn't be as interesting as it's probably nothing we haven't seen before. It's kind of like how I'm from Finland, and it's a lot more interesting to hear a foreigner's opinion on Finland than it is a fellow countryman's... uh... well, I'm sure you get what I mean. And also, if it's a guy discussing girls in the hobby... well, that's been seen a lot too, and it generally revolves around the same recycled viewpoints and generalizations and assumptions and whatnot and probably more often than not is just an attempt to lure out any possible lurkers of the opposing gender on the forum - so nothing new there either.

Not that there aren't plenty of the usual comments in this thread as well, but at least there's also contributions from the "other side", as it were. And gotta say it's been surprisingly civil, overall.

Indeed.
I do like that it was given this much attention though cause I was really curious of hearing how other people, both guys and girls, viewed the hobby and it's really fun to read all the replies


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xraytango wrote:
BTW if you've ever seen Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, you've totally got a Ramona Flowers thing going on, if you haven't it's still a pretty cool movie.

I've seen it - it's brilliant and thanks! I was amazed by her hair that I wanted something like it ^^

"I just have to paint and have boobs!"

Funniest thing I've heard all week. HA!

 -Loki- wrote:

 Aun Tier wrote:
Interestingly, in 40K from what I've heard women seem to most frequently play Tyranids - now, I can't see a single reason that giant bugs would be considered girly, so I support your opinion.

When I was trying to get back into 40k, I was pretty much settled on Tyranids, though I thought I'd be charitable and ask my fiancees input. We walked into the store (something she refuses to do anymore), and looked in the display case. She said 'Those are pretty' while pointing at Tyranids. While I was happy she picked the army I'd settled on, the fact she thought they were pretty was beyond me. Giant dinosaur space bugs... This from the person who screamed in fright when she saw a giant Huntsman on our wall.

I also like Tyranids. If I hadn't got the Orcs from the the Assult on Black Reach box I would have picked nids. For me it was probably because, as I said, I first thought most of the 40 armies looked like toy soldiers however nids and orcs did not (!) thus they felt cooler and for me probably more "okay" to like. Today I'm not at all as fond of nids as I was 4 years ago, I'd much rather play Space Marines, like Dark Angels cause now I just think of them as awesome minis rather than toys


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Instead of answering all the notes on painting and if girls in general like brightly colored models:

I like painting, it's awesome. But painting the same color scheme over and over again tends to get boring. That's one of the reasons I stopped playing orcs, I just couldn't find the motivation in never trying out new colors etc. Lizardmen are extremly colorful which allows for using loads of different colors and blends, preventing it from becoming boring and makes for a nice army to look at on the battle-board. Loads of color options also made me like chaos daemon since that would allow me to switch and paint both dark and bright colors. So for me, I like the variation rather than the brightness of the colors and I think it's the same for most people out there?

Nope. I stand corrected.


"What is this? It looks like a cathedral. That's hovering. I hate it. But I have to have it!"


That's the funniest thing I've heard all week!

I can vouch for the idea that varied colors make for an interesting army to paint, making Orks a bit monotonous to paint...

Warhammerlady wrote:

 ace101 wrote:

Also what army did you pick. I think you covered that, but i must have missed it.

I mentioned Orcs and Lizardmen in the video but here's a brief review of my army picking so far ^^:

I started out with Orcs, then Lizardmen and eventually Orcs & Goblins (again the orcs, can't resist...) but then 6th edition came out for 40K, so the orcs and goblins were forgotten (unpainted and everything), and I bought some Grey Knights. In the end though I didn't like having like 15 minis on the board when playing 1500p so I switched to Chaos Daemons which is my primary, and also only fully painted, army at the moment. Then the Dark Vengeance box turned out so great so I couldn't help buying some Chaos Space Marines as well as loads for Dark Angels ^^ So all in all I've picked loads of armies
For now I'm most likely switch between Chaos Daemons, with the space marines as allies, and Dark Angels.

High five sister! (I also play Chaos Daemons as my main for a good few year now! )
Who's your favourite God btw? I went with Tzeentch, mainly because I love the fluidity & motion in the (old metal) Pinkies and Flamers, combined alongside the avian look of the Greaters/Heralds.
The only downside of course, being my one kitten who sees something birdy-looking and is constantly trying to kill and eat it...

On the other hand, I can't ever bring myself to contemplate O&G's simply because of the other 'woman' in the local area who's a die-hard Orc&Gobbo nutter, yet is also extremely akward to be around for more than a couple minutes... (Let's just say that very occasionally, those sterotypes of gamers being large & smelly and highly inappropriate in their conversations isn't only applicable to guys... *shudders*)


As for things like swearing that's normally associated more with guys, well, let's just say that I've played high-level compeitive hockey for 20+ years and have a couple army buddies who treat like their little sister and leave it at that!

I don't think I've ever seen a Woman play Space marines. Like, in person that is. The two woman at our FLGS play Daemons/Necrons and Sisters of Battle.

Maybe we could convince a yaoi fangirl to play Space Marines.

I'm glad to hear a different perspective on why someone choose to join the hobby. Also you followed the rule of cool in choosing your armies. Who could ask for a better member of the community. Also i'm not surprised you have received a warm welcome from what i've seen in 3 trips to Scandanavia they are some of the most polite and enjoyable people i've met.


Also I liked your Sammael very traditional and clean, I would be interested to see more of you paint jobs.