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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 09:31:36
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Yeah, it's no biggie until the 3rd round survey comes out, anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 15:18:12
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Deadzone Update!
Secure the LZ
Update #98 · Jun 27, 2013 · 14 comments
With the survey deadline approaching on the 21st July and all of our sculptors working like crazy to get everything finished, we’ve got some new scenery sprue contents to show off!
First to be funded was the Landing Pad BattleZone:
The Landing Pad BattleZone contains 3 x Landing Pad sprue, 1 x Defence Line Sprue (see below) and 1 x 48-piece connector sprue.
The crane piece works as a 90 degree connector and can be put on any floor, wall or ceiling.
The small pieces in the top right corner are stair connectors, allowing you to combine staircase pieces and make a staircase as wide as you like.
The pillars work as 180 degree connectors, so are useful for strengthening any building.
This BattleZone is sufficient to make a complete Landing Pad raised up on pillars with a perimeter defence line, a gun turret and a staircase, with plenty of bits to spare!
You’ll notice above that the Landing Pad BattleZone features 3 Landing Pad Sprues and the Defence Line Sprue upgrade sprue funded at $1.15m that can be used to add even more variety to both the Landing Pad and Fortification BattleZones!
Defence Line Sprue (Part of Landing Pad and Fortification BattleZones):
The defence line pieces are designed to fit around the edges of the Landing Pad or along the top of a fortified wall or bunker.
On its own the sprue also creates a line of Barricades up to 29.5 inches long! The turret is standalone and can be used as a comms array or burst laser.
The 135 degree connectors are on both this sprue and the Landing Pad and can be used to join the defence line pieces at 135 degrees, or to angle them outwards around the edges of the landing pad.
NOTE: All sprue designs are awaiting final confirmation from our factory, so there may some slight tweaks still to come, but we will ensure that you can still build just as much with them!
We’re expecting final renders of the Fortifications and Ruins Sprue in soon so keep an eye out for them!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 16:26:53
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Really liking all of that.
Stairs, risers, triangular sections are all really useful.
The gun and comms dish are rather cool extras too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 17:16:55
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Finally did the first draft of my survey. I put in for one of the landing pad zones. If my math is right we'll be able to build almost two of the "standard" platform off one if we just throw in 1 extra full panel from another zone. I think I might have gone a little crazy. Outside of my need for the goblin artillery for conversion purposes all my additional funds went to terrain since the FF aren't till round 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 17:18:45
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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I initially went in for 2 Landing Pad Zones, but now I'm thinking I'll only need/want 1, especially if we can make 2 landing pads from one if the "Landing Pad Zones"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 17:25:18
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wonder what happen the long wall section for the long edge of the Triangle piece from update 96 (iI've asked but Mantic don't seem to be around the KS comments of late) I hope it makes it into another set i want a few of them other than that I like what I see probably get 2 or 3 (I have 24 Battlezone picks to fill after reworking my pledge money  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 18:12:20
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Phanobi
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Well that landing pad looks really nice. May have to go with two after seeing the renders!
Probably going to hold off filling in the survey until the last few days in the hopes that we see more updates such as this before I finalize everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 18:29:06
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Foxy Wildborne
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The sprue layout doesn't make much sense. You end up with 9 standard panels and 9 triangles, and you only need 5 and 4, respectively, to build the platform. If you scrounge up a spare square panel you can build two platforms, but the second one won't have barricade walls.
I guess both sprues will appear in other kits as well and Mantic is doing this sub-optimal layout to min/max the modularity in some way we can't see yet, but still...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 18:40:31
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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To build a GW size landing pad you'd need 8 standard panels and 10 triangles, which is just not what you'll get from the kit, unfortunately. I guess you could cut the 9th standard into two triangles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 22:24:16
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Huh.
Hadn't realized that defensive line sprue was being included in the landing zone. Not a bad little bit of variety. Guess I'll end up getting one in the end after all.
I'm liking the stairs. Glad we'll be getting a few in that battlezone. Those should be useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 23:08:22
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Am I wrong or could I drop my strike pledge and create a new pledge level on the survey?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 23:51:02
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hulksmash you can change your pledge level in the manager
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 11:41:39
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Earth Dragon wrote:I can't even really fathom how the Multihex models are gonna impact the game. With all the deaths in matches currently, it seems crazy that we'd have even more devastating Killers running around on the pitch.
I wonder if there is gonna be a slight rules mod to compensate for league play. Something like 4 damage miss the rest od the game and the next, 5 damage your killed, as opposed to kill with 4 damage.
Judwan hiring a couple of these guys just seems completely unbalanced to me as well, so I wonder what the restrictions might be. I know some refuse to play with Judwan involved as is, though I'm hearing more and more FFs match up against them as long as you don't play like a mindless slamming slow.
Can't wait for Season 3 in general. There will be so much variety at that point with 144 different possible match-ups of different teams, and that's before you account for free agents, mvps, and additions/deletions to the roster of each individual team. The variety is quickly matching that of Blood Bowl. I'm just hoping there are no joke/dud teams in Dreadball like the Goblins or Halfings.
Every time I play my wife, and am using Forge-Fathers, she makes me feel like there already is a dud-team. :-p I love 'em, mind you, but my wife has an anti-dwarf field that just makes the little guys flail around more than usual.
I have to agree with the sentiment of your post though. I cannot believe how quickly DB has gotten to a point where I feel it is THE sports-board-game to play. After loving Bloodbowl for what has been a decade-plus, it so quickly started to feel archaic once DB hit my table.
Its like Dreadball has all the depth, deep tactical thinking/options, league progression/campaign satisfaction, etc.... but with no long swathes of feeling like a spectator, and quicker, less fiddly rules that are simple, yet shockingly tactical.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Speaking of Mantic's Stewart, customer-case-master-extraordinaire.... does anyone happen to have his email address handy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 14:30:24
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Dreadball Alpha Simian and Nameless added.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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lord_blackfang wrote:The sprue layout doesn't make much sense. You end up with 9 standard panels and 9 triangles, and you only need 5 and 4, respectively, to build the platform. If you scrounge up a spare square panel you can build two platforms, but the second one won't have barricade walls.
I guess both sprues will appear in other kits as well and Mantic is doing this sub-optimal layout to min/max the modularity in some way we can't see yet, but still...
I think the intent is to make a single standard 9" wide landing pad with all the trimmings + plenty left over for use with other kits.
We know the fortifications sprue is going to have a "long wall", so your spare triangle pieces will be useful for that, to, to create octagonal buildings. A lot of people didn't like the "boxy" look, and that will help massively with getting rid of that.
It is definitely the intent to have the different kits interchange and to just treat the entire lot as a giant lego set.
As far as ratios go, buying 2x core world, 1x landing pad, 1x fortifications (or multiple thereof) seems like the best way to go to make whatever you want. Then if you want ruins, add them to taste.
It's going to be a seriously flexible set of terrain with all 4 sets out, much moreso than cities of death where you're largely restricted to 3 different heavily-stylised buildings since they never released the generic sprue that was sculpted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 15:12:05
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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SS's ratio is pretty close but it's more 4-1 than 2-1 for me. I changed up my pledge to be primarily terrain and grabbed the 12 zone one. 7 Core, 2 Landing Pad, 2 Fortification, and 1 Ruin. The ruin to core ratio could change once the renders come out for them. Hopefully we see renders of all the terrain and a sprue layout render before this all ends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 16:26:16
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Fixture of Dakka
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The long wall has been dropped by the looks of it.
Creator Mantic Games about 9 hours ago
Hi guys, thanks for the comments!
Ramps - we did actually have one made, but with the floor tiles a maximum of 5mm in thickness it didn't really look like a ramp - there was hardly a slope on it. It was effectively a half-tile with limited use due to only having connectors on one side. What we've tried to with all of our scenery is make it as flexible as possible and allow everything to have multiple uses so you can really use your imagination.
Defence Line - As I say, we wanted the flexibility, and this sprue is a fantastic addition to both the landing pad and the fortifications BattleZones. While we could have made the designs more like the shields in the concept, firstly we would have struggled to fit enough on the sprue, and secondly they would again have had very limited use. This way, you've got lots of options.
Gun - yes, there is one per Defence Line sprue, but there's only one of these sprues in the BattleZone. The gun is only a single component, so it can't be split over multiple sprues.
Stairs - each of the staircase pieces is 18.75mm wide, and enough to support a 25mm base on its own if that's how you want to use it. The most common staircase will use two of these pieces, giving a staircase the same width as a half tile. This can be connected to a wall or floor in various different ways.
Long Wall Sections - we tried many ways of fitting these in, but due to the size of the components they took up too much of the space on the sprue that could be used for pieces that were much more useful overall. As I say, what we were really going for was flexibility, and they went against that. While we could have sacrificed some of the designs (stairs, pillars, etc) to fit one in somewhere, it would have been of restricted use elsewhere. We're hoping to revisit them later and fully do them justice :-).
Surveys - you are free to change your mind any time between now and the 21st of July. Just fill in your survey again and we'll overwrite your previous one. We've cleared the backlog of confirmation emails on the server now, so your summary should arrive within a few minutes of completion now :-)
Thanks again for the feedback guys, much appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 18:36:29
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I read that as them having dropped the long wall segments rather than the long wall concept, ie instead of a sprue having 4 3x6 segments to make a long wall, it has 8 normal 3x3 square segments which can achieve the same thing with greater flexibility and a few more connectors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 18:43:13
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Fixture of Dakka
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It'll probably turn up again at some point in the future, it's a pity it's gone but it is an odd size so it's not very modular, the long wall would be 4.25" in length (hypotenuse of a 3"x3" triangle - not 6") which doesn't fit with any of the current modular lengths so the use is very restricted (by comparison to the other pieces).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 18:55:26
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Quick bit of news - Mars Attacks will be 28mm and have a Kickstarter.
Might be the first one from Mantic I don't back, but I'll see how it goes.
I'd have preferred to see a Warpath Kickstarter first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 19:23:15
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Thanks Dave!
This bit in particular:
Mantic wrote:
Surveys - you are free to change your mind any time between now and the 21st of July. Just fill in your survey again and we'll overwrite your previous one. We've cleared the backlog of confirmation emails on the server now, so your summary should arrive within a few minutes of completion now :-)
should help out a lot of people!
I might go and change mine a bit now, again...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 16:34:45
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Deadzone Update!
Keeping the Peace
Update #99 · Jul 2, 2013 · 3 comments
Exciting news - we’ve just had confirmation that we’ve taken more than enough through the survey to fund the tooling of the hard plastic Enforcer Peacekeepers!
But there's more...
If we continue the way we’re going with the survey results, we think we’ll also be able to tool an additional scenery sprue...
Having read the feedback on the update last week, many of you have been clamouring for full height walls the length of the long edge of the triangular pieces (a tile 3" high by approximately 4.2" wide), allowing you to make buildings in far more interesting and varied shapes. There was also demand for ramps. Unfortunately these pieces simply didn't fit into the BattleZones - they took up too much of the sprue and significantly impacted the flexibility of the sets. However, we have a solution!
If enough comes in through the surveys, we think we can rectify this and create a brand-new sprue fully compatible with the existing kits, containing large wall pieces, a ramp, additional triangular sections and associated accessories, once again improving the variety and customisability of the kits!
This sprue will not be part of the BattleZones - these already provide fantastic building solutions as they are. If this sprue is funded, you’ll have the opportunity to add individual sprues of this new scenery on to your pledge during the second survey, and it will ship in the second shipment next year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 16:37:45
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hope the new sprue gets funded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 18:41:34
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Foxy Wildborne
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Me too, I wanna make some octagonal buildings!
And I hope they keep the surface design for the long wall, it reminds me of Weyland Yutani bulkheads from AvP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 00:34:35
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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scarletsquig wrote:Quick bit of news - Mars Attacks will be 28mm and have a Kickstarter.
Might be the first one from Mantic I don't back, but I'll see how it goes.
I'd have preferred to see a Warpath Kickstarter first.
They might want to focus on one of the existing games they're already got out, or ongoing kickstarters for...
With Kings of War, Dreadball, and Deadzone... I really don't feel like they should do that project.
We hear how they're such a small operation... if that is true, they should focus on what they've started and do them well, instead of launching another new game at this stage... imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 01:41:27
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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All Quiet seems to have the jump on that market.
Unless Mantic takes it into the really campy, I don't see how it can compete being late to the show in a really niche market. Even more niche than gaming in general.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 01:56:57
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Yeah, I won't be touching the Mars Attacks thing. I never had an interest, and still don't.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 02:20:14
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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They're very much using a shotgun approach to getting as much product out in the market as possible. Luckily, I share timetowaste85's level of interest in Mars Attacks, so I can't see it bothering me too much. Except for when it takes the company's energy, focus, effort and good sculptors away from their existing projects and commitments.
That could never happen with Mantic though, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 02:38:33
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Maybe they'll keep it low key and just make it a simple boardgame for now? I don't think we actually had a date though, so it could still be quite a ways off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 05:53:34
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Azazelx wrote:They're very much using a shotgun approach to getting as much product out in the market as possible. Luckily, I share timetowaste85's level of interest in Mars Attacks, so I can't see it bothering me too much. Except for when it takes the company's energy, focus, effort and good sculptors away from their existing projects and commitments.
That could never happen with Mantic though, right?
I remember hearing somewhere that Remy was supposed to do the 28mm aliens for the Mars Attacks, but I suspect that unless they cloned him while nobody was watching, we'll only see on or two, maybe a small handful, of the minis actually done by him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 06:00:45
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors - Deadzone Landing Pad renders added.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Frankly, Mars Attacks minis would be a waste of his talent.
Yes, even if his talent is limited to knock-kneed Johnny Bravo-types.
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