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Wow! I am really happy about those.

Daedleh wrote:
Say what you like about some of the KoW kickstarter minis. Mantic are NAILING Deadzone.

yeah, agreed 100%. KoW obviously had a lot of teething problems but the value-per-dollar even with half of the new minis looking like poop is still one of the best KSes I've done (I got *how* many minis in the end, and a new ruleset that I love playing? yes please!). Deadzone is looking to have a much higher quality overall than KoW, and I'd be happy if the ruleset is anywhere near as good as KoW is.

Yes I like what I see for the most part. I'm "meh" on the greenskins but as I covered previously, that was always going to be their ceiling in all likelihood just from me disliking greenskins. The mawbeast is ugh, but everything else looks ok.

I like the overall look of the Rebs, but I'm still not sold on the "reloading" hand position on Rocket Girl. I'll reserve final judgement for when I see the model in-hand in a couple months, but it's one of the two models I'm very leery of in the Rebs line (the Zees being the other).

Getting more impressed by deadzone the more they release for it. Glad I didn't stinge out on the Orks, though the second wave would fix that anyway. I was happy with the concepts though.

The Orks, Plague and Rebs all look amazing, although the missile girl looks unfinished in that shot. Have to agree that the colour scheme has been nailed and I'll be pretty keen to try and copy it verbatim. If Mantic paid through the nose for that commission, it'll pay for itself in short order I think.

I haven't seen anything yet that I'd say is something I'm sorry I'll be getting.

Compared to the KoW Kickstarter, this one is out of this world awesome.

 Yonan wrote:
Getting more impressed by deadzone the more they release for it. Glad I didn't stinge out on the Orks, though the second wave would fix that anyway. I was happy with the concepts though.

The Orks, Plague and Rebs all look amazing, although the missile girl looks unfinished in that shot. Have to agree that the colour scheme has been nailed and I'll be pretty keen to try and copy it verbatim. If Mantic paid through the nose for that commission, it'll pay for itself in short order I think.

By the looks of it I suspect fellow Dakkanaut WinterDyne might have had a hand in that.

Whether that means they've paid through the nose is something you'll have to ask him, I suppose

 Alpharius wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that I'd say is something I'm sorry I'll be getting.

Compared to the KoW Kickstarter, this one is out of this world awesome.

I agree, i dont think theres anything in dz so far that im not happy about receiving, my only worry is the plastics quality, lets hope that they continue to impress.

Except for that marauder dog. Not happy about that one ; p

Winterdyne hey? Here's hoping he chimes in if he did it, was a great job.

 edlowe wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that I'd say is something I'm sorry I'll be getting.

Compared to the KoW Kickstarter, this one is out of this world awesome.

I agree, i dont think theres anything in dz so far that im not happy about receiving, my only worry is the plastics quality, lets hope that they continue to impress.

Looking at basically all of mantic's recent plastics, barring one or two exceptions (and even those are entirely salvageable), their plastics quality is fine.
Sometimes, they do silly things (like annoying vents on the gargoyles) and there's the fiasco with pinhead angels but that's it. aside from that everything, both KoW and DB, works fine.
Bit more work cleaning up mold lines than PS sprues would be, that's all.

I believe the comment was referring to the M@As which were done in "hard" plastic instead of restic but were seemingly scaled badly and with soft detail. Since most of the Enforcers are going to be done in hard plastic there's that 800lb gorilla in the room of if they will come out well, or botched like most people feel the M@As were. I'm cautiously optimistic because they were digitally sculpted from the get-go, but that chance of things going wrong can't be dismissed.

Oh right, completely missed that. Yeah I'm more than a bit nervous about them myself tbh.
OTOH, SS made a few good points about those: it seems the faults with the MaA sprues lie more in the design than in the tooling (the CAD weapons are perfect - crisp too! it's the sculpted/scanned stuff where they fail) but without some proof of Mantic finally getting a hard plastic sculpt right again I wouldn't pledge all that much over the base pledge for them either.
...Which is a shame since I was really looking forward to some of the enforcer booster models as well...

Still they acknowledged the issue and since the enforcers are CAD sculpts from the start, from the same guys that did get the MaA weapons and shields right, I'm holding out hope it'll be all right.
(The dwarves I couldn't care less about, TBH )

By the end of Deadzone, I'll have more Enforcers than ill know what to do with. wait-Deadzone Apocalypse!! Mwahahahaha

 timetowaste85 wrote:
By the end of Deadzone, I'll have more Enforcers than ill know what to do with. wait-Deadzone Apocalypse!! Mwahahahaha

Then you just need an opponent who has a horde of infecteds

Yeah should have said hard plastic. I wish theyd stick to restic for describing the other material. The MaA sprue reviews are the thing thats caused me some worry. Luckily ive gone in big for the plague figures which are restic.

There was an inital shot of the plastic bulkheads from the factory samples and they looked pretty sharp which should be a good sign

I agree with everyone that they seemed to have got it bang on with this one (except that stupd dog thingy), but then I thought that about the Dreadball KS as well!

Yes, the dog thing looks like something an 8-year old would create if you asked them to sit down with some crayons and draw the 'best animal ever'

It is such a minor part of the Marauder faction, and it doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

It has actually translated from sketch to miniature better than anticipated.

Admittedly, that bar was 'step over easily' low, but still!

Awesome, those plastic terrain sprues look great, as much as I can't wait to play deadzone I'm looking forward to the terrain the most, I got
so many uses planned for it, warhammer 40k, infinity, relic knight and deadzone of course. Really hope Mantic continue making more of this
stuff, they really hit the bull's eye with this idea, maybe if were lucky Mantic might even create a fantasy version for Kings of War.

Oh dear listen to me, now I sound like Mantic fanboy, better get my Mantic Ninja Gestapo costume made up.

BTW does anyone remember what the cut-off date for the Deadzone paypal invoices was?

It was some time in October...I think. I have to send mine in too. I'm doing it as soon as my paycheck hits Friday morning.

Yeah, now that I think about it, it was around early oct, 1st - 5th area, better pay it off this weekend just to be safe. Either way I'd imagine Mantic will send out a reminder email within the last week, so there shouldn't be an issue.

Ya'know in all seriousness I say about the idea of fantasy versions of the Deadzone terrain, I wouldn't be surprised if they just create a fantasy deadzone style game (a mordheim game if you will). Considering Jake Thornton
hinted towards a possible dwarf kings hold KS in the future it could actually happen, it would be a great way of relaunching and expanding the original game, just a thought.

^ With Dwarf King's hold I'm hoping for modular hard plastic 3d dungeons.

There's been a ton of 3d dungeon tiles done in expensive resin and none in super-affordable hard plastic.

They could get a *lot* of money from any KS that offered that, I think.

 Alpharius wrote:
It is such a minor part of the Marauder faction, and it doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

It has actually translated from sketch to miniature better than anticipated.

Admittedly, that bar was 'step over easily' low, but still!

Heh yeah, the chainsaw dog/horse is the only true "miss" here. But on the other hand, the only mini I REALLY love is that ripper suit. But the others are all fine, I think, which is much more than could be said of many sculpts in their fantasy kickstarter.

Is there a difference between "Dwarf King's Hold" and "Kings of War"? Regarding the above discussion.

Daedleh wrote:
Say what you like about some of the KoW kickstarter minis. Mantic are NAILING Deadzone.

for some maybe, but Mantic still has not produced a single mini that has made me reach for my money...
they have absolutely nothing that inspires me to paint...
the closest they have come, for me, is the new hero on the lion, and the original Enforcer Captain, but still not worth kicking something out of the painting queue for..

i really want to like their minis, but it's just not happening...

cheers
jah

I can appreciate the cheekiness of showcasing Deadzone minis next to Necromunda bulkheads.

I like these a lot. Not incredible individual showcase pieces, but very good gaming figures. I'm impressed.
Has the reb commanders barrel been sniped off? Also where are all these pics coming from? I want more! No actually, I want the figures in my hand!

The dog looks worse than I ever thought it would and about twice the size, the orcs are meh average, the suit is looking better than expected and the goblin is rather well done.

rebels look better, but I still maintain the heavy's head is bigger than it should be.

I don't remember- can we add to our survey after we send it in, or are we locked in? Now that they actually show a Ripper suit that isn't a horrible prototype, I would love to get a squad of them for Mega Armor Orks.

I urge everyone to give the mantic podcast episode 10 a good thorough listen, some of the wants I just read through were talked about

Ronnie likes big games, expect Warpath to be bigger... maybe apocalypse big? I remember something to the tune of units as a single entity and 20 something "units" on the board where tanks are a unit, squads are a unit etc.

The future of Dwarf King's Hold is to be around adventurers it sounds like. So the talk of hard plastic dungeon tiles could be prophetic (and I would want a million!).

Sharkman and rocket girl are still looking a little fishy (heh), however a little repositioning may do the trick. I rather fancy the shark dude with a rifle or what not anyway, maybe one of my extra humans will be getting that rocket to carry around while Fishy McShark goes a-hunting.

 RiTides wrote:

Is there a difference between "Dwarf King's Hold" and "Kings of War"? Regarding the above discussion.

Dwarf King's Hold is Mantic's answer to Heroquest, with map tiles, a unique model or two and lots of KoW models, dice, etc. They've got 3 expansions out iirc, and apparently it basically sells out every time they do a print run so they're lining up more in the future a well.

In regards to the models, that shark guy looks weird as heck when not basically touching the rocket launcher (Although the lady looks fine by herself). They really should show him and the girl as a single base model so he doesn't look so awkward.

 darkPrince010 wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

Is there a difference between "Dwarf King's Hold" and "Kings of War"? Regarding the above discussion.

Dwarf King's Hold is Mantic's answer to Heroquest, with map tiles, a unique model or two and lots of KoW models, dice, etc. They've got 3 expansions out iirc, and apparently it basically sells out every time they do a print run so they're lining up more in the future a well.

2 expansions and no unique models I've found it extremely replayable personally, though I have only played missons from the first two (which are also both stand-alone/not interdependent) but I haven't tried the make-your-own-warband rules from the second expansion.