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The only problem was the risk of bad minis due to problems with KoW and Dreadball. That risk doesn't seem to exist for the restic we're receiving since we've seen production minis that looked great. We'll need to keep an eye on the hard plastics in wave 2 but Mantic said they'd be up front about it and let us get a refund and so on before they send them out so that shouldn't be an issue either, at worst we can't get burned and the stuff might all come out in restic instead of hard plastic.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So we're all firmly in the "yay Mantic" category now, right?

I'm glad they showed us the production models and there shouldn't be any more nasty surprises for backers. I'm feeling much better about adding funds to my pledge manager. Of course, real plastic would really get things going, but the restic looks better than I expected based on past experience.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So we're all firmly in the "yay Mantic" category now, right?

As a general rule of course: nobody likes EVERYTHING. Not aesthetically loving freya (didn't care for concept art, I wrote her off) and the chainsaw doggies are questionable. I think I'll like em when in hand though.

I think I will be cutting the chainsaws out of the mouths.

Actually I just realised how incredibly rude I've been by not thanking Mantic, it's so easy to bombard them with questions or complaints, I should also be saying thank you for all you guys have done well.
Thanks Mantic, keep up the good work.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So we're all firmly in the "yay Mantic" category now, right?

I'm glad they showed us the production models and there shouldn't be any more nasty surprises for backers. I'm feeling much better about adding funds to my pledge manager. Of course, real plastic would really get things going, but the restic looks better than I expected based on past experience.

Agreed. The thing to bear in mind is that even nkleltch who cops a lot of gak here for his views (some of it warranted, but a lot of it unwarranted) isn't chanting for the downfall of Mantic and wanting them to go out of business. So the rest of us who are bitching about things from time to time are predominantly doing so from a perspective of wanting to see Mantic do the right thing by both their customers and themselves, which is generally the same thing. Unfortunately, a lot of the choices in the last year or two have been, well, perhaps "good" for Mantic short-term but bad for their consumers, and will end up being bad for Mantic Long-term - pretty much every part of the chain of events with the MAA after the concept art - who the feth is going to buy those by choice?

So yeah, good to see them making an attempt to right the ship's course, rather than repeatedly trying to jump a reef. A much, much better effort recently, James.

 carlos13th wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So we're all firmly in the "yay Mantic" category now, right?

As a general rule of course: nobody likes EVERYTHING. Not aesthetically loving freya (didn't care for concept art, I wrote her off) and the chainsaw doggies are questionable. I think I'll like em when in hand though.

I think I will be cutting the chainsaws out of the mouths.

My dogs will also have a chainsaw transplant. They will be slashing fire hydrants in more ways than one.

 spaceelf wrote:
My dogs will also have a chainsaw transplant. They will be slashing fire hydrants in more ways than one.

Please still be talking about miniatures.

Those poor hydrants...

James, (or anyone here, this may be generally known), is it certain the Warpath Kickstarter will launch sometime in 2014? Or is that still being debated in the Mantic bunker?

^This. This is something I'm vvvvvvvvvvvvery interested in. And my wallet is out buying lube in preparation for this event.

 Vermonter wrote:
James, (or anyone here, this may be generally known), is it certain the Warpath Kickstarter will launch sometime in 2014? Or is that still being debated in the Mantic bunker?

"Certain" is a word that terrifies me.

However, we're very, very interested in the idea. We've got a couple of other things that we'd like to do first, mind... a couple of rather extreme ideas.

As much as I think Mars Attacks is awesome, I have been eyeing up the bigger-than-a-GW-Rhino Trucks for sale at $12.50* each and thinking "Man, if only this was the Warpath Kickstarter and those were Corporation APCs".

And that's before you even get into stuff like the $20* robot mini that's the size of a GW riptide.

There's definitely a lot of very interesting smaller stuff you could do (DKH 4 having the most potential IMO), but as far as "chomping at the bit, want it, need it, will make $3 mil+ easy" interest from Mantic fans, Warpath Kickstarter is where its at, would love to see it next summer.

*taking bundle discounts and pledge level discounts into account.

I'm curious if a Dwarf King's Hold kickstarter will include some kind of fantasy- based plastic scenery sprues.

I was a bit disappointed there wasn't a coming soon preview in the back of the Deadzone rules! What a perfect spot to tease us!

 scarletsquig wrote:
As much as I think Mars Attacks is awesome, I have been eyeing up the bigger-than-a-GW-Rhino Trucks for sale at $12.50* each and thinking "Man, if only this was the Warpath Kickstarter and those were Corporation APCs".

...hard plastic Corporation vehicles designed by Antenociti's Workshop.

 scarletsquig wrote:
As much as I think Mars Attacks is awesome, I have been eyeing up the bigger-than-a-GW-Rhino Trucks for sale at $12.50* each and thinking "Man, if only this was the Warpath Kickstarter and those were Corporation APCs".

Sorry to be a bubble-burster, but they're actually smaller than a rhino!


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By the way, if you guys are interested, myself, Ronnie and Alessio will be doing a live chat over at Beasts of War this evening. It's mainly about Kings of War, but if you want to get some Deadzone / Mars Attacks / Warpath questions in, head on over.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/kings-of-war/kings-of-war-week-2013/chat-kings-war-ronnie-james-alessio-cavatore/

Just out of curiosity, why are the Martians as tall as humans? In the movie they are quite a bit shorter.

So, lets think about it: give me a warpath KS at the end of Q3 2014, and my wallet will be ready for another round. Before it, i will probably stick with the extremely necessary stuf :/

Also, please lagoon83, tell me you are talking about a big sized paquiderm with a horn in the nose

And Scarletsquig, you are not the only one thinking that way...

and Mantic, I demand that you give me plastic Forge Fathers (good looking ones)

@James: Ah, you're right, thought it was 140mm long for some reason. Looking back over the update, they're still very close at least.

Speaking of the latest shiny things - here's a new shot of the Silverback Truck. For scale, this thing is approximately 120mm by about 50-60mm wide, and is designed to actually carry 5-6 figures!

Rhino is 115x75mm so the Truck seems to be a touch longer but a fair bit narrower? Still really great for the price and I think they'll find their way into my DZ/Warpath stuff at some point regardless.

I was thinking of getting the 23mm AA gun from this for the back of my Mars Attack truck:



That should help keep those nasty saucers away.

Hm, people i was wondering if there is any "deal" of Mars Attack with only martian stuff...

Thinking about it, those are great for a "count as" Tau Empire, great stuff to go against (or at side) of my planned Forge father Army

I mean, how those saucers would look counting as Tau transport ships? And the big robot is an invite for a Riptide count ass...

Oh man, what extra surprise money do to my brain...

I was more thinking a cheap counts-as necron airforce....since you can get 9 flyers for $150....

**much** too small to count as croissants.
Good God I remember the grief I got for non-proxied necron air force nastiness, I don't wanna be the guy trying to pull that off **anywhere**.

I really hope they can get the plastic sorted out shortly, as I expect them to do a Warpath Kickstarter in june, and If I'm right there is going to be a ton of vehicles and additions to the armies.

Those models look fantastic, and I'm glad the enforcers got a bulkier ankle. Also if you look through the pages you can see the enforcer special teams painted up, and they look nice.

 CptJake wrote:
I was thinking of getting the 23mm AA gun from this for the back of my Mars Attack truck:



That should help keep those nasty saucers away.

Does empress sell those bits separately? if not, it's an expensive endeavour.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I was thinking of getting the 23mm AA gun from this for the back of my Mars Attack truck:



That should help keep those nasty saucers away.

Does empress sell those bits separately? if not, it's an expensive endeavour.

Not listed on their website, but I asked and they will sell it separately.



In fairness though, who couldn't use the extra truck too!

I'm trying to go through my Season 3 shipment to figure out what is mine and what is RiTides' stuff. I know I'm missing stuff from the order, but I can't figure out what is what easily..

Does anyone have pictures of what the Nameless Keepers and Prone markers are?

 Hulksmash wrote:
I was more thinking a cheap counts-as necron airforce....since you can get 9 flyers for $150....

Yeah, i want to know the size of those saucers... they can count as anything who can fly, but the sie is important here...

CptJake wrote:Just out of curiosity, why are the Martians as tall as humans? In the movie they are quite a bit shorter.

Because the movie made them shorter than they were in the original cards (and the relaunched cards / comics), which is what we're licensed to produce miniatures of.

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:Hm, people i was wondering if there is any "deal" of Mars Attack with only martian stuff...

Thinking about it, those are great for a "count as" Tau Empire, great stuff to go against (or at side) of my planned Forge father Army

I mean, how those saucers would look counting as Tau transport ships? And the big robot is an invite for a Riptide count ass...

Oh man, what extra surprise money do to my brain...

We're always interested in making new deals! Drop us a message on the Kickstarter with what sort of thing you'd like, and we'll talk.

Triszin wrote:I really hope they can get the plastic sorted out shortly, as I expect them to do a Warpath Kickstarter in june, and If I'm right there is going to be a ton of vehicles and additions to the armies.

Those models look fantastic, and I'm glad the enforcers got a bulkier ankle. Also if you look through the pages you can see the enforcer special teams painted up, and they look nice.

One of the big things with Deadzone was to get hard plastics right so we could do vehicles. Looking at the terrain, yeah. Yeah, we've cracked it.

Here's my thought... All during the Deadzone KS, I was day-dreaming about Warpath. Ironically, since then, I have become utterly convinced of the value and cool-factor of DZ as its own entity.

As such, give me a honkin' HUGE Warpath KS in June, with classic Mantic value, vehicles, huge volumes of models, etc... and make an early stretch-goal DZ cards/rules for any brand-new models that happen to be introduced.

That's right... just as DZ was my launch into Warpath of a sort, I want Warpath to also have hooks for DZ. Think of it as making Warhammer 40k, but acknowledging "Kill Team" thus making both products even richer for it!

Mostly, Warpath.... KS.... gimmie. I will give you all the money I made from working on Deadzone, and then some.... no joke. :-p

Turns out a bunch of the stuff Cyporiean had added onto her Dreadball pledge for me was missing. At this point, I'm just hoping for a refund on those items, cut my losses and move on.

Who do we email about those kinds of things again?

Sigh...