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I guess I'm I'm in the small minority that likes the bases. I wouldn't argue against pegs though.

Yeah the pegs work well in the Dreamforge stuff. If you don't want them it's a very quick snip and you're good to go.

So far I've been willing to put in the extra effort to remove them because I like Mantic's games / models so much, but I'm for ditching the integral bases as well. Pegs sound great.

@Eric - Ah, you were the one! Thanks, it's a good tip.

 GrimDork wrote:
Dreadball you mean?

You are correct, sir. Autocorrect magic at work.

Gah, hate autocorrect sometimes. I think Alpharius may still be sore at me over the whole 'Ralph' incident

I love you even more for it.

You aren't heavy - you're my brother.

I've had luck using sprue clipper to clip the majority off of the base; after that it's simple to chop the remaining bits off the bottom of the feet with an Xacto (especially the new Z series with the coated blades). Didn't think to soften 'em up with hot water though, thanks for the tips dudes!

I like the bases.

Makes them feel more like toys.

If they feel like toys than I am perfectly validated to make plenty of pew pew pew noises playing with them with my kids.

I understand the rest of your plight, as they do seem a bit of a pain if you were to snip and clip.

For a newbie/ lazy board gamer they are pretty convenient though.

Yay, mine should arrive here by 15.20...... right when I'll be picking my son up from his school lol.

I'd vote for tabs or pegs. On Fantasy as well as sci-fi.

Has anyone spotted the res or stat cards for the Mercs? I did not see them in my box I just flipped through the book and did not see stats in there either.

Mercs don't have any cards yet, PDF for the cards is supposed to be in the works for the interim. I assume the merc cards will come in the second wave.

Supposedly, the Mercs are going to be *very* close to their beta stats so this link
http://quirkworthy.com/2013/08/12/deadzone-mercenaries/
should help hold you over till they get the cards deployed in PDF and otherwise.

Just happened to check my delivery status this morning, on its way for delivery today! Woohoo!

Looking forward to getting some construction madness on the go and trying to force someone to play it with me.

Pegs!! They would be awesome. Also has anyone seen any action in Aus yet? Waiting on the paid courier option..... Bring on the shooty goodness.

I'd be fine with seeing the integrals go. Too restrictive (really dislike the platform boots stuff, why not just have one foot on the disc and one foot off?), a peg like the dreamforge minis would be great. Or no peg at all, it depends if the mini needs it or not. In hard plastic even really tiny contact points (tips of Zz'or talons) can work just fine because the glue bonds so well and doesn't break.

I think the original idea was that you could put it together without glue and all that 2-piece minis stuff. Not really the case with deadzone or warpath. You need glue, you need files, you need hot water.

There are a few things I'd like from Mantic bases in general:

- Hollow (so we can glue a magnet underneath easy).
- Clear plastic option (maybe get Renedra to run their round base sprues in clear polystyrene?).

It's definitely a weakness in the minis, dreadball bases were a very cool idea, but the integrals do kinda spoil them to the point where a lot of people just paint the whole thing black which is a shame.

KoW bases are fine with the integrals although a hollow would have been nice.

I did seem someone carve off the integrals on their DB team, flip the hex bases upside down and glue them to the underside. That looked pretty neat.

I would also vote for integral bases to be scrapped for warpath but kept for KOW.

Some of the models (Mostly the bigger ones) don't have integrals themselves, that will always be a better option than the platform shoes. I doubt there are many people who are not going to cut them off so in this case the integrals are making it much harder to put together the model to a decent standard rather than much easier.

 lagoon83 wrote:

carlos13th wrote:

 lagoon83 wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:
James can I ask why some of the models have disco era platform shoes.

The 70s are making a comeback! Haven't you heard? Afros are back in, Saturday Night Fever's getting a remake, the Bee Gees are cool again.

Okay, most of that might be a lie.

It's so they fit into the bases - it's not ideal, though, and we're going to stop it happening. Personally, I'd just get a modelling knife, trim them down and texture the base so it's not an issue any more

Warpath Tagline?
In the Grim Darkness of the future, there is only Disco.

Yeah they are gonna get sliced off.

Just got my shipping notification, its going to the wrong address....I'm sure it can get fixed before UPS receives it though.

If it's at the shipping notification stage, we can try to catch it but it might have already gone. However, if so, UPS will try to deliver to the old address, then if you're not there they'll email you and ask for an address update, then re-deliver. In any case, drop me a line at james.hewitt@manticgames.com and I'll see what I can do

Thanks mate, I have chucked you an email. No big deal if it gets here late, as long as it gets here.

Vermonter wrote:Especially if you want to preserve fiddly bits like toes and avoid stressing the plastic, don't forget to soften the plastic with hot water before you cut. I've successfully saved many Veer-myn toes this way.

Someone else on here recommended that first, but I can't remember whom, so all credit where it is due to the previous contributor.

Genius! A kettle has already become part of my assembly toolbox.

baritowned wrote:Honestly, the only Mantic game that I don't like the integral bases for are Dreadball minis... The integral bases look like crap in the clear hexes (no offense, James, other than that I love your company).

I'm hoping mine ships soon... I've been waiting since June for these minis!

None taken! We're always open to feedback.

highlord tamburlaine wrote:I like the bases.

Makes them feel more like toys.

If they feel like toys than I am perfectly validated to make plenty of pew pew pew noises playing with them with my kids.

I understand the rest of your plight, as they do seem a bit of a pain if you were to snip and clip.

For a newbie/ lazy board gamer they are pretty convenient though.

Hang on, there's an argument against making pew pew noises with miniatures??

primalexile wrote:Has anyone spotted the res or stat cards for the Mercs? I did not see them in my box I just flipped through the book and did not see stats in there either.

Yeah, what GrimDork said - pdf is imminent, followed by a second wave card deck.

I thought pew pew noises were essential. Even of your miniature has a bow and arrow.

Its even been modded into skyrim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U48uDLQ2_fs

Bases - TBH I quite like the integrated bases, but not sufficiently so that changing them would be upsetting. I don't know what others experience of restic is but I'm not even convinced restic models need anything to connect the to the base beyond the glue, same for hard plastic (GW dropped tabs on hard plastic ages ago, I've not had a problem). Metal models however I prefer the larger contact point and stability I feel I get from an integrated base.

Deadzone base sizes - just got a reply from Stewart through Kickstarter and he said both Rebs and Plague weapon teams official basing is 25mm individually. I might base them as a single 40mm model anyway, I'll just have to pay for the bases (or not if I rummage deeply in my bits box).

 Baragash wrote:
Deadzone base sizes - just got a reply from Stewart through Kickstarter and he said both Rebs and Plague weapon teams official basing is 25mm individually. I might base them as a single 40mm model anyway, I'll just have to pay for the bases (or not if I rummage deeply in my bits box).

Would they work on those bike bases GW do?

 Riquende wrote:

 Baragash wrote:
Deadzone base sizes - just got a reply from Stewart through Kickstarter and he said both Rebs and Plague weapon teams official basing is 25mm individually. I might base them as a single 40mm model anyway, I'll just have to pay for the bases (or not if I rummage deeply in my bits box).

Would they work on those bike bases GW do?

That might be a good shout for the Plague Mortar to put the crew either side of it, I'll play with that I think for the Rebs I'm feeling 40mm more as a gut reaction.

My package arrived, but I won't be able to get it until late Saturday early Sunday because I'm out of town

Noooooz!



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I still got nuffinks, but thats ok, got some enforcers to work on.

Grimdirk, I expect to see enforcer pics in that thread I started by late tonight! Lol.

AAAAAwwwwwwwww damn, I see my box of fun has been picked up in Birmingham. ETA is supposedly Monday!

Plus it looks like all my Black Friday garbage comes in between today and Monday! I'm going to be a very busy boy!

(and as an aside,I thought we weren't allowed to make pew pew noises if there are girls nearby. What with the cooties and all.)

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Grimdirk

Sounds like an assassin's blade

Well do you want bare restic? I can do that, but virtually snowed in with the baby today so the only chance I'll get to paint is during her limited nap periods. I need to get a high table and a barstool set up so I can hobby out of reach of tiny grasping fingers...


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I had a though on the integrabases, and bending/fixing restic stuff in general.... Coffee mugwarmer. Little mini hot-plate, just big enough to heat up a small cup or jar of water.

Haven't tried it yet, not sure if it would make the water hot enough or not. Will see about giving it a try though

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
AAAAAwwwwwwwww damn, I see my box of fun has been picked up in Birmingham. ETA is supposedly Monday!

Plus it looks like all my Black Friday garbage comes in between today and Monday! I'm going to be a very busy boy!

(and as an aside,I thought we weren't allowed to make pew pew noises if there are girls nearby. What with the cooties and all.)

Sweet, I checked about an hour ago and still initiated. After seeing your post I checked again so I could post a "Sad Panda" comment, but mine is picked up for delivery on Monday as well.

Received my MM black Friday stuff today, Monday - Deadzone, Tuesday - Ogre and Fantasy Flights Black Friday stuff. I anticipate annoyed comments from my wife.

 GrimDork wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Grimdirk

Sounds like an assassin's blade

Well do you want bare restic? I can do that, but virtually snowed in with the baby today so the only chance I'll get to paint is during her limited nap periods. I need to get a high table and a barstool set up so I can hobby out of reach of tiny grasping fingers...


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I had a though on the integrabases, and bending/fixing restic stuff in general.... Coffee mugwarmer. Little mini hot-plate, just big enough to heat up a small cup or jar of water.

Haven't tried it yet, not sure if it would make the water hot enough or not. Will see about giving it a try though

I think the awesome thing is that my phone has an autocorrect that leads to grimdirk. I look forward to seeing them painted, when you're able to. I suppose taking care of a future gamer takes priority.

Triple9 wrote:
I anticipate annoyed comments from my wife.

Isn't that why we call this "The Most Wonderful Time of the Year?"

I was checking all the various shipping sights, and between today through Tuesday I'm looking at around 12 packages of various shapes and sizes. Admittedly some of those are gifts... some are even for other people besides myself!

I will probably have a bit of explaining to do. Hopefully my wife won't come equipped with a Grimdirk!

Yeah poor kid *is* pretty likely to turn down the path of nerd-dom, but I'm not gonna push in any direction.

I'm thinking something along the lines of what I heard scarletsquig say on the mantic forums, don't want mine to look like the goodguys cause they really aren't So some kind of dark/menacing color for the plates and then mostly black for the recessed bits of armor.