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Yeah, unless people have crazy mold lines, I'm not seeing them. Maybe pics or it didn't happen? My mold lines have been no worse than hard plastic models.

Has anyone been having difficulties with assembling terrain using the connectors? SHould I just give up and glue it?

One thing for both the proponents and detractors to bear in mind is that the there's a *huge* variation in terms of mould lines and casting with restic just as a nature of the beast sort of thing. So keep in mind that people saying A and people saying B are likely both right.

@gohkm: Restic is susceptible to warping and likely you have a piece that is not aligned correctly. The easiest way to correct that is to soak the piece in hot water for a bit which will make it very bendable. Straighten it to the needed position and then place it into some cool water. That usually takes care of alignment problems like what you described. If not, you can try to contact Mantic about a replacement bit, they're usually pretty good about fixing up just straight-up miscasts.

For my part, I'm most of the way through assembling my second Strike Team. The Marauders are taking the prize at the moment for worst mould lines and casting issues, but given that they were sort of an "oh, I get those too?" faction for me I'm not particularly angry about it. I do have to echo SS and say to make sure to check all your parts. Found a few small missing pieces this weekend that made me glad I didn't submit the order query yet. Nothing major so far, and obviously nothing I don't have multiples of anyway, but best to get it in one go I feel.

pretre wrote:Yeah, unless people have crazy mold lines, I'm not seeing them. Maybe pics or it didn't happen? My mold lines have been no worse than hard plastic models.

Has anyone been having difficulties with assembling terrain using the connectors? SHould I just give up and glue it?

I've seen one bag have no mould lines at all, open up the other strike team and the same bag will have incredibly noticeable ones. You could say it's a... mixed bag.

I've had some connectors not want to cooperate and some that just popped right in. If I remember who said it right, I think SS had the right of it that if some pieces (usually the corner ones) don't want to go in you may need to file them down just a smidge.

Give up and use glue is my advice for the terrain. It goes together a lot more quickly and with less stress. I just clipped the square pegs off the connectors and glued them into the recesses on each piece.

Also, make sure large buildings have one freestanding wall that can be removed in-game so you can place models inside the building. Use the support strut connectors (one on each side) to have the wall freestanding.

Quite pleased that the terrain allows you to do this, much better than leaving the roof loose.

I agree with Krinsath, the mold line vary wildy even amongst the same models beacause of the material. I have seen a few constants, such as the line on the Peacekeeper Captain's cloak and on the rebel commander/humans face but nothing that has outright ruined any detail on the models. It is also worth noting that the newer restic formula is a damn site easier to clean and deal with than some of the original formulas. In time familiarity with the material will make it easier to deal with for modellers. If it is new to you just experiment with the odd model which you are not too fond of/have many multiples of and in time you will get the hang of it.

i have also done the same as Scarletsquig, a further advantage being that you do not need half as many connectors when using glue. I am so fond of the terrain that i bought a couple of extra boxes on friday whilst also signing up for a league at my FLGS, there is quite a DZ community local to me already.

yea, glue is the way to go i've found also, especially after i had a few connectors break testing putting things together and then trying to take it apart
for the more scenic connectors and the like, i've also found it immensely helpful to go over the pegs with a file slightly
all and all, i expect i'll be purchasing a good deal more of these kits in the future

I'm still not hugely keen on gluing the terrain too much, but I guess if you use superglue you can always un-glue it. I'm normally a fan of plastic cement but being able to remodel the terrain down the track, even if you've glued it, would be a good thing imo.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Sooo.... Mantic's running out of stuff for the lucky 1% of us whose pledges haven't shipped yet?

I imagine they made sure all strike teams are fully complete first, then for extras after that yeah, you might have a delay on getting stuff.

 judgedoug wrote:
- the models have great detail! not as great as, say, Mierce resins, but I also pay a ton of money for that level of detail. these guys are great. i looked at the completed team, realized i had three more teams to do, and then 30+ sprues of terrain, and i literally can't believe the deal i got on all this.

Yep no doubt about that. I have ~$900 worth of SMs (at ~30% off USRRP) sitting on my wall of shame atm, basically identical price paid to the Deadzone that arrived in first shipment. Comparing the quantity of the two is... one sided ; p

 Yonan wrote:
Yep no doubt about that. I have ~$900 worth of SMs (at ~30% off USRRP) sitting on my wall of shame atm, basically identical price paid to the Deadzone that arrived in first shipment. Comparing the quantity of the two is... one sided ; p

For a moment before you mentioned the discount off USRRP, I was going to say "$900AUD of Space Marines? You mean you got a whole SQUAD?!"

But seriously, I feel like I've gotten an excellent deal on the KS. The models aren't Mierce/KD/DFG quality, but they're good. The terrain works well and the game's rules look to be a lot of fun. I've certainly spent more and gotten less for it.

I feel like I got what I paid for- a great price for some awesome terrain as well as some decent figures that need a bit of work. If the figures themselves were more money I would hope that the castings were done a bit better.

As it stands I've got almost all my rebs, plague, and the majority of marauders put together.

I think I've found that zenlike state that's needed to put the scenery together without any problems. I built a few small buildings with the kids, took them down, built a larger building with all those pieces, and then broke that down and put it in the box... all without busting a single connecter!

Hopefully the kids have less homework this week so we can get a few proper games under our belts. I'm wondering when we'll see someone put out a character builder of some sort. I want to run a Trollblood unit through the deadzone! Gunnbjorn, some sluggers and scattergunners, maybe some dire trolls or something along those lines... I'm sure they'd enjoy fighting the plague!

I hate to say it, but after putting all this work and effort into prepping the game... I'm ready for the fantasy version.

As much fun as it is having big bad manly soldiers and pew pew lasers, I'll take lots of giant monsters that you have to get up close and personal to make merry with, rather than plugging away at them from a distance.
I'm also very curious to see what kinds of fantasy scenery Mantic could come up with.

Well, my box is in. I haven't counted all of the terrain sprues , but just looking through the miniatures, I already can tell they gave me an extra bag of mercenaries, as well as a complete second marauder starter and some extra Rebs.

Hooray Mantic!

 judgedoug wrote:
Finally had time to assemble some Deadzone figs last night, started with the Marauders.

A few things I noticed:

- new restic is way better than Dreadball. easy to scrape off mold lines with my Z-series Xacto and can file it no problem.

- speaking of mold lines, virtually none. the Marauder with two rifles had a thin mold line, and there was a mold line on the commander's hat, but I got the whole team assembled in about 45 minutes including some head swaps (so the duplicated dudes don't look exactly the same).

- the models have great detail! not as great as, say, Mierce resins, but I also pay a ton of money for that level of detail. these guys are great. i looked at the completed team, realized i had three more teams to do, and then 30+ sprues of terrain, and i literally can't believe the deal i got on all this.

The mauraders are clearly the best. Have you touched the Rebs or the plague yet? Lots of mould lines, sadly. If you're able to get your Rebs cleaned and built in 45 minutes, please please please YouTube that so I can learn. It's taken me a while to clean up my Rebs.

 cincydooley wrote:


The mauraders are clearly the best. Have you touched the Rebs or the plague yet? Lots of mould lines, sadly. If you're able to get your Rebs cleaned and built in 45 minutes, please please please YouTube that so I can learn. It's taken me a while to clean up my Rebs.

I'll work on them next! The Marauders are the only ones I took out of their baggies.

Just got my box in. I got it shipped to work so I haven't been able to look through it yet. Very excited to finally get to see what all of you guys have been talking about with the scenery.

I've got one group of enforcers and all my marauders built except the second ripper suit. Only the 1st Gen plague is done from that group, but flash doesn't look too bad on the bigger guys.

Honestly speaking, I've had some pretty terrible moldlines on my plague boosters (particularly the teraton and swarms) plus the special characters set but speaking overall they genuinely have been damn good.

I'm pretty sure I've assembled some 50+ models now, not including terrain, and they've on the whole been pretty damn good. I'd say maybe 1 minute per model on moldline duty now, on average (several haven't needed any more than a casual flick), which is a massive improvement over the dreadball season 2 days.

Mould lines on mine have been OK for the most part, not perfect but certainly better than the car crash that was the Dreadball season 2 minis.

 CptJake wrote:

gohkm wrote:


In all honesty, though, I probably stuffed up my Plague Grenadier - he's got a huge one inch gap between the launcher and his wrist. I must've misjudged something when gluing him up.

You have to be exaggerating. No way you have a 1 inch gap.

Makes me think back to one of the old Airfix Harrier kits, think originally made in the 70's where the mould had been used so many times you had something like a cm gap between the wing and fuselage.

 Krinsath wrote:


@gohkm: Restic is susceptible to warping and likely you have a piece that is not aligned correctly. The easiest way to correct that is to soak the piece in hot water for a bit which will make it very bendable. Straighten it to the needed position and then place it into some cool water. That usually takes care of alignment problems like what you described. If not, you can try to contact Mantic about a replacement bit, they're usually pretty good about fixing up just straight-up miscasts.

Ah, thanks, mate. I'll give that a go.

BTW, all the big models go on 40mm bases, right? And the small ones on 30mm or 25mm ones?

I retract my previous statement, I'm missing my second Plague Booster, as well as an extra ripper suit that I ordered.

On the opposite side, I got an extra Marauder starter, bag of mercenaries, and I'm almost positive that I got way more terrain than I ordered.

baritowned wrote:
I retract my previous statement, I'm missing my second Plague Booster, as well as an extra ripper suit that I ordered.

On the opposite side, I got an extra Marauder starter, bag of mercenaries, and I'm almost positive that I got way more terrain than I ordered.

The basic box is 10 sprues of plastic plus one sprue of connectors. The Strike Force pledge doubles that to twenty sprues of plastic plus two sprues of connectors.

Each battle zone is eight sprues of plastic plus one connector sprue.
For every two battle zones, you get two sprues of the accessory terrain.

So check what you received against the piece of paper you should have received showing what got shipped to you. Is it more terrain than you expected, or more than you ordered?

 solkan wrote:

baritowned wrote:
I retract my previous statement, I'm missing my second Plague Booster, as well as an extra ripper suit that I ordered.

On the opposite side, I got an extra Marauder starter, bag of mercenaries, and I'm almost positive that I got way more terrain than I ordered.

The basic box is 10 sprues of plastic plus one sprue of connectors. The Strike Force pledge doubles that to twenty sprues of plastic plus two sprues of connectors.

Each battle zone is eight sprues of plastic plus one connector sprue.
For every two battle zones, you get two sprues of the accessory terrain.

So check what you received against the piece of paper you should have received showing what got shipped to you. Is it more terrain than you expected, or more than you ordered?

It may have been a combination of both. Also, were Boomer and the Helfather supposed to ship in this wave?

Boomer is second shipment, wasn't ready in time. Helfather and chovar are both metal and shipped out this wave. All 3 were paid addons and not inclusive.

My Marauder Commando boss has genuinely half a centimetres gap for box to foot when trying to stand him up. I dunno if the hot water trick will do enough for that.

 GrimDork wrote:
Boomer is second shipment, wasn't ready in time. Helfather and chovar are both metal and shipped out this wave. All 3 were paid addons and not inclusive.

Then I guess I'm missing my Hellfather too. Missing three things out of that much isn't a big deal to me, other than the Hellfather they were all duplicated anyway lol. It's not like Mantic isn't willing to send out replacements.

 judgedoug wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:


The mauraders are clearly the best. Have you touched the Rebs or the plague yet? Lots of mould lines, sadly. If you're able to get your Rebs cleaned and built in 45 minutes, please please please YouTube that so I can learn. It's taken me a while to clean up my Rebs.

I'll work on them next! The Marauders are the only ones I took out of their baggies.

Rebs were definitely worse, more mold lines and took longer. Though I just did all my plague models in about 20 minutes as they had almost no mold lines!

Just got my box today. I only got the plague and enforcers (pre-release box) but I must have gotten one of the good batches as my models had very minimal mold lines.

Just finished sorting through my DeadZone models. I noticed the following incorrect/missing bags:

- I am missing 1 entire Plague Booster Bundle.
- Plague Extra 1 bag (the bag with 3 Third Generations) came with the wrong head/accessory sprue (I think the head sprue belongs to the Marauder Extra 2 bag)

Just sent Mantic a message about my missing items. REALLY pleased with the overall model quality! I've been working on Zombies all month so as soon as my DeadZone stuff arrived I could get my Warpath Plague Army together for Demo games against my Forge Fathers and Corporation.

On a related note, does anyone know when we'll be getting Warpath rules for the Rebs?

baritowned wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
Boomer is second shipment, wasn't ready in time. Helfather and chovar are both metal and shipped out this wave. All 3 were paid addons and not inclusive.

Then I guess I'm missing my Hellfather too. Missing three things out of that much isn't a big deal to me, other than the Hellfather they were all duplicated anyway lol. It's not like Mantic isn't willing to send out replacements.

on my paper, the hellfather was marked as shipping with the 2nd shipment, so i'm guessing they ran low on them or something

So, my thoughts, based on just a basic Strike Team package:

-Marauders: 5/5
I think these guys are going to be the Elves of Warpath; I wasn't enamored with them when I saw them online and in pictures, but now with them in hand they're easily my favorite faction. Models went together cleanly (Although the flamethrower guy had a 0.5cm gap between his arm and the gun-hand), although I had to crack open my cards and squint long and hard at the Ripper Suit pictures to figure out which doodads went where. Instructions there would have been helpful.

-Plague: 5/5
Big guy looks great, and the Gen 2 have the same Elf-effect the Marauders had above (Far better in person). Very much impressed with the gen 3 soldiers, and they went together easier than any other model besides the reb footsoldiers.

-Rebs: 5/5
Love the humans, love the grogans, love the teraton. Yindjijidiiwhatever look ok, but were more fiddly to assemble compared to the humans that they definitely mark below on the scale of how much I like the models. Drones have a bit of the Elf-effect for me personally, although I was markedly less enthralled by them when I found out I had neglected to add their underslung spotter-things after I superglued them to a shaved-to-fit flight stand top

-Enforcers: 4/5
Surprisingly, my least-favorite of the bunch. Like the models, but compared to the ease-of-assembly of the monopose models, I would buy monopose models over the PITA multipart models any day of the week. Engineer looks like a non-euclidean miscast until you figure out which part goes where and put him together. Enforcer Captain looks nice, and since I got a regular Enforcer Captain, I have to say the restic is vastly preferable to the metal, although the model does appear to be 10-25% smaller in overall volume

Mercs: 4/5
It would have been a nightmare trying to assemble these without the guide Mantic posted in the update, but after that it was a breeze. Only thing left is finding out if the Enforcer Scout's little orb thing is glued to its own base, or if it should be glued to the scout's base.

Game Components:4/5
Everything looks nice (Missing dice, but eh, I already have some). Rulebook was banged up on the edge opposite the spine, but not into unusability. Cards from the deck are nice quality. Tokens look nice and were punched out well, with no ripping.

Terrain: 2/5
Looks fantastic, but is an absolute pain to assemble. For whatever reason only about one-in-three of my connectors fits cleanly and snugly into the terrain. Another third fits, but so loosely that its function becomes decorative, and the remaining third doesn't fit full inside the receiving hole, leading me to wonder if I should risk damage by trying to force it with a mallet or pliers. I'd be willing to revise this view if it turns out I was not doing something right, but at the moment I'm not exactly happy with the idea of using the terrain in a game.

Overall: 4/5
Very glad I went into this for the models and rules, as neither has disappointed (Can't wait to play some games with my local gamer friend), but somewhat disappointed by the terrain. It doesn't feel or look nearly as secure and quick/easy to assemble as I'd hoped, and I'm now somewhat glad I didn't pledge for buckets of it.

Here our second game, we are going to get it all painted up this week. Including the terrain

Played on our Anima Wars Battle Board with trays and felt dice trays on either side. Was pretty sweet!









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Looking good GnG!

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Terrain: 2/5
Looks fantastic, but is an absolute pain to assemble. For whatever reason only about one-in-three of my connectors fits cleanly and snugly into the terrain. Another third fits, but so loosely that its function becomes decorative, and the remaining third doesn't fit full inside the receiving hole, leading me to wonder if I should risk damage by trying to force it with a mallet or pliers. I'd be willing to revise this view if it turns out I was not doing something right, but at the moment I'm not exactly happy with the idea of using the terrain in a game.

Have you seen the discussion on the Mantic forum about how to improve the terrain connectors using a little bit of filing? Supposedly it makes it a lot easier, but the connectors are definitely the weak point of the terrain. Now that I have mine I'm going to have a look at seeing how viable it will be to magnetise.

edit: M\y Deadzone shirt fits well thankfully! Looks pretty good imo, subdued and not overly nerdy, glad I impulse bought it during the survey ; p

 Yonan wrote:
Looking good GnG!

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Terrain: 2/5
Looks fantastic, but is an absolute pain to assemble. For whatever reason only about one-in-three of my connectors fits cleanly and snugly into the terrain. Another third fits, but so loosely that its function becomes decorative, and the remaining third doesn't fit full inside the receiving hole, leading me to wonder if I should risk damage by trying to force it with a mallet or pliers. I'd be willing to revise this view if it turns out I was not doing something right, but at the moment I'm not exactly happy with the idea of using the terrain in a game.

Have you seen the discussion on the Mantic forum about how to improve the terrain connectors using a little bit of filing? Supposedly it makes it a lot easier, but the connectors are definitely the weak point of the terrain. Now that I have mine I'm going to have a look at seeing how viable it will be to magnetise.

edit: M\y Deadzone shirt fits well thankfully! Looks pretty good imo, subdued and not overly nerdy, glad I impulse bought it during the survey ; p

yea, i found that taking a few seconds with a file helped immensely with the connectors, it took me from swearing and murderous back to happy and creative