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Z'Zor are a Tyranid analogue in that they have a similar insectoid look, while Veermyn are a Tyranid analogue in that they infest ships and take over colonies after slowly building and then rising up from underground like Genestealers, and Plague are a Tyranid analogue in that they're close combat monsters who consume colonies with seemingly little purpose or reason other than to destroy them, and move onto the next one.

Just portions of the whole concept.

I am a big fan of where the Warpath/DZ/Dreadball background is coming from. Whilst many will be looking for a game of Not40K I think given that most miniature gamers (at least that I know) are now willing to try something different emphasising differences from GW is the way to go.

Also I thought that having a "Social Networking Community Mangager" was a good move by Mantic, but given the amount of stuff they are posting it is grating and getting on my nips. (Paul).

 Yonan wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Forgefathers are the tyranids of the Warpath universe, they will reduce a planet to bedrock (including the removal of atmosphere/ water) , then break apart the planet itself and make use of the rubble. There have been instances of a Corporation selling mining rights to a planet to the Forgefathers without fully understanding exactly what that entails.

rofl, I like that. There's no such thing as digging too deep when you can just vaporise whatever balrog pops up down there. Mantic do have some great lore in Warpath, I hope to see it continue developing, perhaps a little more realistic and less cheesy than 40k if possible ; p

Forgefather Brokkrs don't necessarily have the ships needed to strip a planet down in that way so they're more content to steal anything they can sell. Of course they won't just steal things that aren't nailed down, they'll steal everything that is nailed down as well as the nails. And then sell the nails back to you.

Friendly Bunny Rabbit wrote:

 Krinsath wrote:

The Tyranids as Veer-myn is a bit of a stretch since in WP I don't see the Veer-myn being scary gigantic close-combat monsters. The idea of planet-consuming swams is pretty much a sci-fi trope though so it's not like they have to worry about the lawyers overmuch here. The Nameless could certainly fill in here and would prompt much "squee"-ing among the people who model their 'Nids with tentacles anyway.

I'm sorry if I missed something, but I thought the insectoid Z'zor would have been a closer Tyranid analogue? I had the Nameless down as far more civilised than a swarm type race- actually the Kalimarin Ancients team blurb says "The Nameless Confederation is home to many related species living in harmony". I don't know, that gives me the impression they aren't a ravening swarm devouring everything in it's path. Especially as a confederation which suggests a capacity for diplomacy and treaties and suchlike. Could be wrong though.

Well, whichever gave the closest thematic/counts-as analog, rules-wise would work. The fluff could be entirely different and it woudn't matter.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It's The Coneheads.

Calling it now.

There's a long thread on the Mantic foums with people guessing. So far Matt Gilbert has said they're all wrong, but I don't think Coneheads was one of them.

I'm always on the lookout for more 'how to' and/or 'instructions' on how to build all this nice Mantic plastic terrain I've got now...

This thing here though:



seems to have a lot of 'not-Mantic' going on in it!

Good for them for not caring!

I think that was pretty much the point of it, to show how much the mantic terrain fits into other gaming systems terrain.

People may not want to play mantic games or use mantic models for various reasons, but if they can tempt people with the terrain I'm sure they'll be happy enough with that.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm always on the lookout for more 'how to' and/or 'instructions' on how to build all this nice Mantic plastic terrain I've got now...

This thing here though:



seems to have a lot of 'not-Mantic' going on in it!

Good for them for not caring!

Is that the Pegasus Hobbies bridge in that pic? If so, I may have to invest in one.

It certainly looks like it - The "Technobridge", right?

That is definitely a solid table!

Ah the Pegasus "Technobridge" Decent model and is wide enough for pretty good sized machines to cross it.

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Ah the Pegasus "Technobridge" Decent model and is wide enough for pretty good sized machines to cross it.

A couple of minutes too late, wannabe-Ninja!

It does show how well the terrain can be combined with...just about anything!

I've got a 40k garage game Saturday and plan on using mine to see how it works out.

 .Mikes. wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It's The Coneheads.

Calling it now.

There's a long thread on the Mantic foums with people guessing. So far Matt Gilbert has said they're all wrong, but I don't think Coneheads was one of them.

If so, the first stretch goal had better be....

Narfle the garthok!

Speaking of Coneheads, I've been painting some classic RT/ 2nd edition Eldar to proxy as Asterians... the metal ones wearing chainmail armour.

The triangle eyes and grille mouths look quite robotic so they'll do nicely for cyphers.

The minis work great without conversion, sorting out the card deck was trickier.

Going to give them a whirl next week, the v3 beta rules for them seem like a lot of fun.. even your basic cypher trooper with flux rifle has construct, vulnerable, 2 armour, 3+ shoot, AP 1 gun and can fart toxic gas (yes, this is actually a rule).

Looking forward to the faction a lot... I'm done with Rebs until they get an update.. Plague and Marauders are definitely the power factions of the game, but I'm not a fan of the minis.

I'm starting to think that Deadzone could do with more factions, rather than having tons of minis in each, there's only so much you can fit in 70 points and inevitably you end up with minis that rarely or never see any tabletop action, especially with the more elite factions where 5-6 minis on the table is standard.

25 teams for Dreadball is probably too many at this point, 6 factions for Deadzone feels like too few. Even just a release of a faction deck for Corp and Veer-myn making use of existing Warpath minis would be awesome.

Edit: Just realised, Deadzone has 8 factions, Mars Attacks is introducing another couple in August. :p

Woogoo!

More factions ftw for sure.

I don't see how well the cone heads would make for a game.. maybe since they deployed the scenery they're doing an escape from new York board game

 Alpharius wrote:

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Ah the Pegasus "Technobridge" Decent model and is wide enough for pretty good sized machines to cross it.

A couple of minutes too late, wannabe-Ninja!

It does show how well the terrain can be combined with...just about anything!

Yes, but I built mine as a gift to the game shop as others had beaten up the cardboard 40k stuff, bunch of us worked to make plastic buildings for the place and I added a guard toll booth check point to the side of the bridge.

*Not* counting any specifically Deadzone minis, my Enforcers currently have:
21 Regular Enforcers with Rifles
10 Assault Enforcers/Sergeants
6 Enforcers with Burst Lasers
2 Enforcers with Missile Launchers
1 Enforcer with Fusion Gun/flamer
And I have a bag of 5 unassembled Enforcers left( inc bust laser and assault arms), plus 3 other burst lasers and 1 other set of assault arms.

((Any suggestions on what to do for my remaining 5 guys? I'm trying to keep it as flexible as possible.))

All in all, I currently have 54 Enforcers...

Plus, if my count is right, in the Deadzone Kickstarter Wave 2, I'll be getting:

30 plastic Enforcers.
4 Medics
2 Engineers
2 Snipers
2 Enforcers with Missile Launchers
15 Peacekeeper Infantry. (Aka Terminators)
Sergeant Howlett
The Infiltrator
2 Striders

Pffft, who needs a Warpath kickstarter?

That's probably a 3k army there already!

Vehicles are most definitely needed though, and they've been teasing them for years!

 GrimDork wrote:
Woogoo!

More factions ftw for sure.

I don't see how well the cone heads would make for a game.. maybe since they deployed the scenery they're doing an escape from new York board game

Maybe if they decide to do a KS for a DZ 2.0 . Though at the moment I'm happy with the stupendous amount of dollies acquired from the first one. I'd consider doing Veer-myn if they update the models, currently though they don't make me want to shell out for em.

If anyone is interested, miniature market has Deadzone on sale for 60$

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/mgdzm02-87.html

Looks like a good price Squall, for a starter set

Almost finished cleaning my 3x strike teams + 1x BOGOF for each faction, just the last few plague units from their BOGOF to go. I work slowly...

Its a pretty solid deal if you are interested in the majority. I may have to keep an eye out and see if they ever get the battlezones products in sale for 40% off... that would be mighty tempting.

Have we got any Dakka posters primed and ready for the Open day this saturday? I am hoping to see some new Deadzone sculpts and news.

Can't make it personally, everyone else bring a half-decent quality camera if you can!

 GrimDork wrote:
Its a pretty solid deal if you are interested in the majority. I may have to keep an eye out and see if they ever get the battlezones products in sale for 40% off... that would be mighty tempting.

It was a deal of the day... and I bet if they had a 40% off deal of the day for Battlezones they'd sell out faster than that Deadzone deal did, haha.

Second shipment scheduled for July.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/deadzone-the-sci-fi-miniatures-board-game/posts/837151

Asterians are looking sweet:



Also, second wave ships in July.

Are those corp guard or whatever?

Corporation Marines, they've been out for years.