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I've played the Asterians and they are definitely capable.

They have some very hard counters to some of the cheesiest stuff in the game.

For starters, they can't be pinned or suppressed, so Sentry Guns are less nuts... but it also means that if a mawbeast is getting stuck in, you can freely blaze away into the melee cube to put it down rather than risk a break off.

Cypher Primes are an excellent melee tank unit, Black Talons are massively superior Kraaw for a few points more.

And then, their drones are lots of fun too... they have an ap1 sentry gun with frag.

Forgefathers seem viable, but I don't expect more than one forge guard to be making an appearance in 70-point lists (in fact, none at all might be best), the missions are too hard with a low mini count. Luckily, Brokkrs are cheap and good since deadzone is a melee game, with tough rather than armor, they are a bit more resilient against the mawbeasts, a pair of them in a cube with enraged is certainly enough to smack it up rather than getting eaten + infinite fight chain of death. Valkyrs are rather great too.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Forgefathers seem viable, but I don't expect more than one forge guard to be making an appearance in 70-point lists (in fact, none at all might be best), the missions are too hard with a low mini count. Luckily, Brokkrs are cheap and good since deadzone is a melee game, with tough rather than armor, they are a bit more resilient against the mawbeasts, a pair of them in a cube with enraged is certainly enough to smack it up rather than getting eaten + infinite fight chain of death. Valkyrs are rather great too.

Glad to hear the FF will be viable, as the models are looking better all the time. A bit silly that I'll only be able to field one Forge Guard out of the 10 I'll be receiving, though. (5 from the booster deal, 5 from the starter.) Valkyr effectiveness makes me happy I went in on the booster bundle deal.

If you're only playing with 70 points that is ; p Lightweights! (I don't *need* to justify going for a 6x4 board worth of terrain... I just want to)

Well now look what they hid in the Ruined Quadrant pictures



That's the Brokkr Mining Platform and Remote Bomb-bot

 DaveC wrote:
Well now look what they hid in the Ruined Quadrant pictures



That's the Brokkr Mining Platform and Remote Bomb-bot

Love the models, not sold on the paint job for these (which is no big deal, of course.)

Together the models look a bit like a momma mining laser and her little bomb-bot child.

Oh yeah . . . little family narrative going on in that photo. First Momma laser blasts a hole through the wall, then Grampa dwarf sends junior bombot through the hole to blow up the Marauders.

Heartwarming.

Aww, so cute! My little bomb-bot!

That Mining Laser looks ripe for Thunderfire Cannon conversion as well.

The FF are fast becoming my favourite faction, I have yet to see anything I don't like.

Nice , was wondering but when are these going to be released for retail? and are these going to be released alongside the new Peacekeeper armour Enforcers?

August, from the sounds of it.

KS second wave ships in July. Originally forgefathers and asterians were July as well, but they've been moved back so KS backers get them first.

Oh..

Dang, I've been waiting for the peacekeeper armour since its release its just a chore to wait even a little bit longer tbh..

Not sure if it'll all release in that month either, odds are it'll be a gradual release... plague zombies and their book/ card deck aren't going to be out until December for non-KS backers.

Fair do's I'm just interested in the Enforcer stuff, Martian stuff and the Rebs stuff..

Do you know when those walkers will be released for retail?

Depends whether they decide to put the whole shebang on preorder at once or stagger them over a few months, but the walkers are shipping in wave 2 as well, so same time as everything else bar the ruins - after the KS packages are mailed

Ok, cheers for replies I just got the starter for my birthday and I am really looking forward to having a captain and a squad in peacekeeper armour in my games in the future tbh..

Picked up a Landing Pad at the UK Board Games Expo today, nice change of packaging, the pad and the defence lines come bagged like this:



Think it is a pretty good idea to allow those consumers with no prior knowledge/experience of the product to see what they are buying into. Probably also saves Mantic some cash on packaging. The other sets are in boxes/sleeves like the original battlezone set. The Sci-Fi Urban Quadrant is a massive box of scenery and if you get it at discount retailers it looks like a great deal.

That bomb bot is cute in a manly, bearded kind of way. Also good to see that some of the Brokkrs reflect the point that we have reached Peak Beard.

Really liking the forge father stuff so far. I'm probably going to have to get more of them eventually, may be (one of) my go to faction(s) for the Warpath Kickstarter. Almost wish I had ordered more, but I'll surely survive till the other kickstarter.

I really like those Brokkr's and the bomb bot. Seem like great little sculpts, and they feel less like "dwarves in space." Still not wild about them toting around hammers, but I might be able to suspend my disbelief.

Those hammers come in mighty fine for smashing faces in when you're trying to bust your hump out of a hot Dead zone, let me tell you sonny!

The Brokkrs clearly need more drills. I for one like the fact that the Brokkrs are not your typical fantasy or sci-fi dwarves, I especially like the fact that they aren't 95% beard. Now if only they had some mining power armor. I wish Hasslefree had a drill arm with their Grymn power armor.

Hmm one of the Veerr-myn boxes has drills. Maybe something to look out for on the cheap, say when miniature market or the like is doing mass clearance again or what have you. Actually maybe several of the veer-myn kits have drills, I was just thinking of the one with nothing but.

The hammers do tend to tie the universe a bit more to sci-fantasy, than if they just had more guns or something. Or hell, even just combat knives "just in case", though I think brokkrs are fairy fighty so having *some kind* of dedicated melee weapon may make sense in the close quarters of a deadzone.

I have some of the Veer-Myn with the hand drills. They're kind of tiny. Some kind of Brokkr with an exo-suit mounting a big ass mining drill would be neat somwhere down the line. Pickaxes could have been a good alternative to the hammers, too.

Yeah it's too bad they didn't go with mining drills over heat hammers for the forge guard. The iron ancestor is just begging to have one too.

Drills?

Pick-axes?!?

C'mon!

Hammers are the best.

Gaaah, I leave for the day and look what I miss. The Brokkrs are quickly becoming one of my favorite factions. Like the drill and bot.

 Alpharius wrote:
Drills?

Pick-axes?!?

C'mon!

I'm not touching this Kickstarter if Cool Mini or Not have anything to do with it.

What in the world are you talking about?!?

EDIT:

Never mind.

I get it now.

Hahahaha nice one ; )

 Alpharius wrote:
What in the world are you talking about?!?

EDIT:

Never mind.

I get it now.

I think you should BANE yourself for a day for that one. Jeez. That was just about the easiest one out there...and you dropped the ball. Take a break. Have a lemonade. Snort some sprue shavings.

If they really wanted to be smart, they would have given the Scrappers demolition tools. Just as good for bludgeoning people, but much better for breaking things.

Looks very cute/cool !

Looking forward to this Brokkr stuff getting a retail release.