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Though those tracked vehicles look cool, so did the resin master of the marauder gun truck. Once put into restic, it is a softly detailed mold line infested mess.

Do you think Mantic has changed their manufacturing process enough that these brokkr vehicles won't end up as disappointments?

I thought the later Deadzone stuff has been a big improvement on that dodgy batch of Dreadball releases, was much better.

So hopefully they are on the right path although I guess we will see for sure come July.

Anybody else still waiting on the pledge manager?

Has there been any indication that they might add a new team as a stretch goal, or are the twelve all they've got?

 AlexHolker wrote:
Has there been any indication that they might add a new team as a stretch goal, or are the twelve all they've got?

There hasn't been much at all. They started with Phantasm, so presumably M'Zei Kein and Gemini are on the docket. After that, all they need is one Hobgoblin star player to have one MVP per team, bringing things in line with ODB. They also mentioned the 4th giant (the spider) as a possibility if funds got high enough, and it didn't seem like they'd thought about anything beyond that.

Mantic said they would put out a stretch goal update early this week, so hopefully they will go into how they plan to structure future goals then.

Wow, those ruins look quite good. I know these got briefly mentioned several pages ago, but this actually looks like something I might want... unlike the terrain when it didn't have the ruined options/pieces, as it just looked too blocky.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/deadzone-the-sci-fi-miniatures-board-game/posts/860306

So, blown up blocks FTW?!?

Apparently! I like them though, definitely an easy way to convert to ruined city.

A bit off topic at the moment, but does anyone think Warpath will actually launch this year? Have Mantic updated their info on that since the Open Day?

My gut tells me early 2015, if we're fortunate.

I haven't heard anything. As much stuff as they previewed at the open day that looked pretty far along, pretty much none of it was Warpath. I would say its gonna be awhile.

Rules, yes, models no (other than what is coming out for Deadzone). Kickstarter, I really hope it's the next one after DKH.

Yep, still don't have my DBX pledge manager invite, comments response was "it's already been sent" and no reply to my private message, getting quite annoyed now.

That's lame NTR =/

SS-they're gonna release a new ruleset *before* the kick starter? I wonder how that would even work. Would tie their hands as to what units were options in the KS, but they might already have planned it out. Would much prefer to see the simple army lists of v2 remain within the rulebook itself. I don't hate the concept of army books(especially for fluff, galleries, and elaboration) but I certainly don't mind armies contained in the main book either.

Hmm.


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I certainly don't want them to go crazy with a 40k 7th end 3 book release... but I *would* like to see them put out a nice book and not shoot themselves in the foot. V2 isn't bad, I guess, but anything hoping to challenge for more market share should probably be sharper.

I imagine they will release the basic rules with one or two army lists with more to follow later.

The way kings of war does it is by offering the main rules to download and army lists to download seperatly all for free.

Pretty sure he's referring to the beta rules for Warpath 3.0 that all the Deadzone backers are getting for free with shipment two, so it's not a proper release and it doesn't lock them into anything.

still haven't received my DBX invite either. But, seeing as I only put $1 into this one, I'm not really in a hurry for it, either. I can wait a bit longer.

I think we should all wait until they have some production models to see, and a print for every item on the pledge manager. Then they might actually have a motive to stick to the art they sold us on during the kickstarter campaign.

 Barzam wrote:
still haven't received my DBX invite either. But, seeing as I only put $1 into this one, I'm not really in a hurry for it, either. I can wait a bit longer.

Whilst I haven't had a direct reply to my comments, other people that have asked on the KS comments have been told they've already had them sent out, and one guy in particular was told they already had his completed and submitted!

So barring some major brainfarts out there, Mantic could be having technical issues that they're so far not aware of.

I have not heard any such rumour before but over on his blog Jake Thornton mentions the possibility of a Stalingrad variant for Deadzone, if anything happens it seems way off in the future. And if anything does happen what does Jake actually mean?

http://quirkworthy.com/2014/06/03/dkh-is-not-kow-skirmish/

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I have not heard any such rumour before but over on his blog Jake Thornton mentions the possibility of a Stalingrad variant for Deadzone, if anything happens it seems way off in the future. And if anything does happen what does Jake actually mean?

http://quirkworthy.com/2014/06/03/dkh-is-not-kow-skirmish/

I imagine it would mean a historical game based on the Deadzone engine for WW2 era street-fighting... Which would actually be pretty awesome, if something of a departure from what Mantic have done until this point. But Hard Plastic WW2 ruins and buildings, and another DZ-based game... I wouldn't say no!

 Paradigm wrote:
I wouldn't say no!

I would. While World War Two Russia is one of the least gak historical factions as far as I'd be concerned, it's still restic-laden historical garbage that further distracts Mantic from doing the one thing that might make them worth following.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a new Kroothawk!

Stalingrad - Historical garbage? Indeed!

 Azazelx wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a new Kroothawk!

Stalingrad - Historical garbage? Indeed!

I'm going to be generous and assume the comment is about how the miniatures will turn out.

Pretty sure it would be an addon similar to city fight for deadzone using all the bigger units.

 Riquende wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a new Kroothawk!

Stalingrad - Historical garbage? Indeed!

I'm going to be generous and assume the comment is about how the miniatures will turn out.

Dunno, I read the "restic-laden" to be the comment about the miniatures. Restic says it all, really.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I wouldn't say no!

I would. While World War Two Russia is one of the least gak historical factions as far as I'd be concerned, it's still restic-laden historical garbage that further distracts Mantic from doing the one thing that might make them worth following.

No one would be forcing you to buy it, and it's the kind of product that could be KS-and-done, so to speak. Assuming there's hard plastic terrain, I could see it appealing to the historical 28mm crowd in the same way Deadzone did to the Infinity/40k players- people would be buying enough to cram a 6x4 table with the stuff.

And who knows, he said it would be far in the future if at all, and I imagine after the Warpath KS, Restic may well be a thing of the past (largely depending on the quality of the Zombies or Enforcers)

I can't see 3x3 cubes in plastic appealing to a lot of historical gamers. It just wouldn't look like the actual buildings.

 CptJake wrote:
I can't see 3x3 cubes in plastic appealing to a lot of historical gamers. It just wouldn't look like the actual buildings.

Of course not just cubes, but I can see modular and ruined historical terrain (think a more realistic version of the DZ Ruins terrain) doing well. Also, the 3x3 mechanic exists in deadzone for simplicity, but there is plenty of scope in the system to move beyond it.

I'm just saying, I can see this doing fairly well and offering something new if they go for it.

You can't sell 'Stalingrad' without some of the actual buildings. A generic WW2 Urban Combat game? Maybe. But call the setting Stalingrad and then hope to use generic modular buildings isn't going to attract the folks looking for historical accuracy.

There are several companies that make Stalingrad terrain in several scales. They've modeled specific buildings that were locations for key engagements for a reason.

Err.. historicals? What are you lot waffling about now?

Am I the only person on here capable of reading between the lines on Jake's blog posts?

"Stalingrad" doesn't mean "Mantic is going to produce a WW2 line of terrain", if you read the post it is pretty clear from the context that it refers to a Deadzone campaign supplement that follows a similar theme to the IRL battle, with an army trapped inside a city and stubbornly resisting. Probably a Rebs vs. Enforcers campaign book or something like that.