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Very cool, Im gonna try running a bone stock PX4 in a local match here next month if time allows, I really want to get into 3 gun but that's gonna be a bit yet due to range cert requirements here. Hope you place well

 Vaktathi wrote:
Very cool, Im gonna try running a bone stock PX4 in a local match here next month if time allows, I really want to get into 3 gun but that's gonna be a bit yet due to range cert requirements here. Hope you place well

First time I will be wearing colors (county sheriff's marksmanship team, yee hah)
Range cert requirements?

Yeah the entity that owns the property requires taking a couple weekend courses before being cleared to use the action range, after which you can use it at any time. I guess they had problems with people following 180* rules and whatnot.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Yeah the entity that owns the property requires taking a couple weekend courses before being cleared to use the action range, after which you can use it at any time. I guess they had problems with people following 180* rules and whatnot.

Interesting that. Would not work for an IDPA / USPSA match.

Beretta Storms are nice.

While it will probably still get appealed, the same judge who issued an injunction against the CA Magazine Ban has just struck down the entire law. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190329/breaking-federal-court-finds-california-magazine-ban-violates-the-second-amendment

Hopefully we'll once again be able to get standard capacity magazines in CA.

Acquired a Greener Mk3 police shotgun in it’s original proprietary 12/14 guage chambering.

For those unfamiliar, it’s basically a smoothbore Martini-Henry that the British issued to colonial police forces. My particular one has Egyptian markings.

That sounds awesome.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Acquired a Greener Mk3 police shotgun in it’s original proprietary 12/14 guage chambering.

For those unfamiliar, it’s basically a smoothbore Martini-Henry that the British issued to colonial police forces. My particular one has Egyptian markings.

I'd still take the US import in 12 gauge. MK3's have the Hong Kong markings but were chambered for more standard US rounds for Prison guards in the 1930's.

12 gauge would be nice as I could shoot it! As it is, this one will fit nicely into my British arms collection and I couldn’t argue with the price, it was gifted to me by my father in law.

You'll maybe have to look into loading your own shells for it.

 Grey Templar wrote:
You'll maybe have to look into loading your own shells for it.

Good luck with that. Greener’s had a special 3-pointed firing pin that was incapable of piercing the primer of essentially anything but their proprietary cartridges. That's why you want the 12 gauge ones.

Unless you want the 12/14 gauge chambering for collection purposes. What you want does not equal what everyone else wants.

Can the firing pin be swapped out?

I had never heard of this shotgun before, so I googled it up. Very unique looking shotgun with that blunt muzzle - cool piece of history.

On behalf of everyone else in CA, I apologise for us crashing the websites of everybody who is now selling standard capacity magazines to CA now.

That sounds like progress, what changed?

Higher up this page. A judge just ruled the entire ban unconstitutional, so lots of online retailers are now shipping normal mags to Cali.

Amazing how in one week we go from a piece of plastic being ruled a “machine gun” to lifting the magazine ban in CA.

Get them while you can, since this is the kind of thing that can be reversed and CA is one of the few states where I could see them pulling an NY and actually confiscating stuff after changing their mind (most states you can normally plan on being grand-fathered in when stuff changes).

Good for CA. (first time I think I've ever said that...for any reason ever).

 Grey Templar wrote:
Can the firing pin be swapped out?

Remember that the Greener Mk3 was specifically designed to prevent British colonies from rebelling since the only source of usable ammunition was Greener, but at the same time they needed to arm police and other similar units. So not only was it not the same as British military munitions, but it was not the same as anything anyone else produced.

I'm fairly sure there's a conversion kit out there, but it's more than just the firing pin. The shells are an odd size and shape, so you're looking at rechambering it.

Cool. Didn't know about those weird shotties.


In other news, I had to 'fix' a bunch of my magazines yesterday. Seems they all had some weird obstruction about 1/3 of the way down

edit: So I bought three 30 round mags and a 60 rd quadstack for my AK. They should be here in a week or so.

 Grey Templar wrote:
So I bought three 30 round mags and a 60 rd quadstack for my AK. They should be here in a week or so.

Should get one of those romanian 75 round drummies. I have one and like it, although I liked it better when I could use it with my lawfully acquired plastic firearm accessory unlawful machine gun.

I know we're not supposed to talk about politics here and I'm not going to be the one to break that rule but I am really, really mad about that. Let us leave it there.

Anyway the drums are cool but make sure you use some kind of a tool to depress the spring release to unload it because I think you could lose a finger if you just used your hand. But seriously, they're good!

I have a handful of 45-round AK magazines and they're my "go to" if I were to leave the house in some form of bizarre disaster in which I feared for my life. The 45-round mag is great because it's large for an AK but not impossible or unwieldy. Also with a folded stock it looks...comical.

Iffin you need to get involved in a gunfight, extra capacity to start with is a nice little bonus.

PS: Fun "The More You Know" fact...Russian soldiers serving in Chechnya very quickly adopted the habit of running 45-round magazines taped inverted to eachother (90 rounds total), referring to this as a "King", "Monarch" or "Royal" magazine. They encountered such miserable fighting conditions they said as many as 8/10 soldiers would also field the 37mm grenade launchers on their AK-74. The general fighting response was a hell of a lot of dumped lead and a shed-load of grenades popped off. I used to have a link to a fantastic journal/diary being written by a Russian soldier/officer in the Chechen wars. I have since lost the link. :(

Tiny picture example:

The 45-rounder was originally intended for squad support use, but then saw service in any rifle chambered in 5.45 that could take it.

 Ouze wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
So I bought three 30 round mags and a 60 rd quadstack for my AK. They should be here in a week or so.

Should get one of those romanian 75 round drummies. I have one and like it, although I liked it better when I could use it with my lawfully acquired plastic firearm accessory unlawful machine gun.

I know we're not supposed to talk about politics here and I'm not going to be the one to break that rule but I am really, really mad about that. Let us leave it there.

Anyway the drums are cool but make sure you use some kind of a tool to depress the spring release to unload it because I think you could lose a finger if you just used your hand. But seriously, they're good!

My Korean 75 isn't bad. The spring release disconnects it from the wheel so it doesn't spin it around inside the magazine like a blender when you release the tension. So you load it when it has no tension, then give it 3 cranks when you're going to use it. And if you need to unload it to press the button and it untensions before you take the ammo out.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Hopefully we'll once again be able to get standard capacity magazines in CA.

I hope you got enough while the getting was good.

So apparently Gundam AR's are a thing now

That almost makes the CA compliant stock palatable.

 Vaktathi wrote:
So apparently Gundam AR's are a thing now
(snip)

I kid, I kid.

I'm less insulted by the Gundam art-gun...and more insulted by the feth-awful nonsense going on with that rifle to make it "legal" in whatever gak state it's from.

(and yes I'd absolutely rock a Robotech REDF colour/styled rifle...for fun)

To be fair, for the specific case of a Gundam-esque gun, I don't think the CA stock looks too off-point given the wonkiness of weapons in that franchise (it reminds me of the original Zaku machinegun stock/grip in some ways). If one is stuck with the wonky stock, I think Gundam-theming it was an inspired choice.