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For what it's worth I like that you are modernizing the look within the aesthetics of the game. It's a mixture of the more industrial 2nd Edition stuff and a bit of the smoothness (at least on the Chasseurs) of the 1st Edition stuff. Cybertronic always had a bit of a hectic aesthetic because it changed wildly from 1st to 2nd edition. It went from being smooth 80's sci-fi to a more industrial 90's sci-fi with a lot of grit and gasmasks. For my own part I like the 2nd Edition stuff a bit more (Shock Troopers are one of my favourites). And lets face it, even classics like the death egg could use a revamp. So as a secondary Cyber player I'm excited for these guys. I love that you managed to capture the feel of the Mk1 chasseurs while still making sure that they are augmented enough to look like they could take a bullet and keep moving.

So for me, it is pretty faithful so far and I appreciate that you are trying to update things a bit while still hewing close to the classic art. And if I'm not mistaken... Is that piece of concept art a Surveiler?



Because it looks like a dead ringer to me. And if so TAKE MY MONEY!

Edit - Damn, started writing before the list... So likely not a Surveiler (who has the baddest of asses). Still, when you guys get around to making one of 'em, it should be impressive going off of what I've seen.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
some clues what we might have here :

Chasseurs
Cuirassiers
Mirrormen
Enhanced Chasseur
Mark I "Machinator"
Mark III "Attila" - its definitely not this one

Looking closer, he seems to have a human head, so that would rule out Machinators and any type of Cuirassier. Doesn't look like a Mirrorman. So what, enhanced Chasseur?

 Ronin_eX wrote:
For what it's worth I like that you are modernizing the look within the aesthetics of the game. It's a mixture of the more industrial 2nd Edition stuff and a bit of the smoothness (at least on the Chasseurs) of the 1st Edition stuff. Cybertronic always had a bit of a hectic aesthetic because it changed wildly from 1st to 2nd edition. It went from being smooth 80's sci-fi to a more industrial 90's sci-fi with a lot of grit and gasmasks. For my own part I like the 2nd Edition stuff a bit more (Shock Troopers are one of my favourites). And lets face it, even classics like the death egg could use a revamp. So as a secondary Cyber player I'm excited for these guys. I love that you managed to capture the feel of the Mk1 chasseurs while still making sure that they are augmented enough to look like they could take a bullet and keep moving.

So for me, it is pretty faithful so far and I appreciate that you are trying to update things a bit while still hewing close to the classic art. And if I'm not mistaken... Is that piece of concept art a Surveiler?



Because it looks like a dead ringer to me. And if so TAKE MY MONEY!

my friend I wish to show you new concept! just pure awesomeness ..... but sadly we have to wait :(

I have waited this long for Warzone to come back (my Imperial/Cresentian friend is stoked by the by) I can wait a bit longer for new concepts. Can't wait for the Dark Eden corporate stuff. The Ulfwerner and Surveiler were two of my favourite units that never got a model (well, save for the really hard to find one that may have gotten to production from Excelsior). That and I am chomping at the bit to see renders of Venusian Rangers. Their old models didn't capture even an inkling of their awesomeness, I know you guys will have something great for them.

Some great stuff coming already, can't wait to see more.

Assuming the sculpts are decent and the price isn't extortionate, I'm so buying all the Legion sculpts! I fell in love with the concept and designs when I first saw them some 18 years ago, and was sad to see the gradual decline in sculpt quality (talking Legion here) as the second edition drew closer and closer, and then some new guy came on board and produced some of the worst artwork in the history of the game, with models based on them following suit. Glad to see quality concepts this time around.

So you're saying you're bringing out for 5 armies for now? Let me take a guess which - Capitol, Bauhaus, Cybertronic, Brotherhood, Legion?

Colour me interested

Bring back and slightly update the Brotherhood and I'll hand over my wallet.

I expect and hope for Imperials, they were in every starter.

 -DE- wrote:


So you're saying you're bringing out for 5 armies for now? Let me take a guess which - Capitol, Bauhaus, Cybertronic, Brotherhood, Legion?

I'd prefer to have them all, but if I had to choose the fist 5 it would be Capitol, Bauhaus, Cybertronic, Imperial and Dark Legion. At the beginning the Brotherhood could be bolt on units to the Corporate armies.

Either way, it sounded like they were talking about model releases with the 4-5 factions thing. Their description of the rulebook said it had everything you need.

So while I would love them to release it all at once as well, at least it doesn't sound like any faction will be unplayable as long as you have some random proxies (and 40k is loaded with plenty of WZ proxies ).

 Ronin_eX wrote:
Either way, it sounded like they were talking about model releases with the 4-5 factions thing. Their description of the rulebook said it had everything you need.

So while I would love them to release it all at once as well, at least it doesn't sound like any faction will be unplayable as long as you have some random proxies (and 40k is loaded with plenty of WZ proxies ).

Indeed, and I don't have to proxy a darned thing!

Mutant Chronicles is before I got into wargameing. I have heard of it and stumbled bits and bobs of it's legacy but don't know much about the setting.

I'm going to be following this thread as more concept art comes out. But sadly their is no Nostalgia to get me excited like the others here just yet.

 BDJV wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
Either way, it sounded like they were talking about model releases with the 4-5 factions thing. Their description of the rulebook said it had everything you need.

So while I would love them to release it all at once as well, at least it doesn't sound like any faction will be unplayable as long as you have some random proxies (and 40k is loaded with plenty of WZ proxies ).

Indeed, and I don't have to proxy a darned thing!

Too true. Shouldn't be much of an issue for some of us.

Damn I need to start painting some of this stuff.

I don't think those make good Bauhaus stand-ins. Bauhaus had a strong WW1 Prussian vibe to it, not WW2 German.

I think they work pretty well. My point is that the minis better be good, there is a lot of good competition. I think the minis are what has always killed Warzone.

Take this. The image that hooked me when I picked up the first Mutant Chronicles RPG. I present the Venusian Ranger! Does he need updating, sure. But this is a great image.



However this is what we got!



or even worse this



Until this new company comes up with minis worth buying I have lots and lots of minis that I can use, so they better give me a reason to convert to what they are producing.

I mean seriously look at some of the garbage they put out

And if you haven't been following Dreamforge, they are not a giant company with tons of capitol, so if they can produce miniatures of their quality and at good prices too, than anyone can do it.

........yes, but you will get this:




ohh and you may join our facebook group to check some samples

http://www.facebook.com/groups/121888887983248/

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
........yes, but you will get that:

Very nice. I assume these are Dark Legion (or whatever it's called) guys?

Oooh. Nice!

Those look great.

If you can make great lookin Venusian Rangers in multi-part plastics, my wallet will be your bitch...

I'm genuinely excited to see more!

~Eric

So what are we talking here? Plastic, metal or resin?

I do hope there will be a bit more variety in stances. They all seem to have legs in the same position. Other than that, yeah, great vanilla Legionnaires.

Looks like the magazines could do with a rework. The exposed shell stack all the way to the bottom just looks odd, as does the width of the window. I would expect to seem a more detailed profile of the round if it is that wide rather than just a simple cylinder, though to be honest it should just be narrower.

OMG, my wallet is contemplating filing for divorce after seeing that! Bring it on!

Oh, I like that.

Those are awesome, really capture the flavour of proper legionnaires. Semi-intelligent bio-tech zombies. Can't wait to see the Necromutant that will be leading them. They'd look at home in any 2000AD comic.

 Ronin_eX wrote:
Those are awesome, really capture the flavour of proper legionnaires. Semi-intelligent bio-tech zombies. Can't wait to see the Necromutant that will be leading them. They'd look at home in any 2000AD comic.

heeh you will get that tomorrow

I really like the updated art and sculpts. I will definitely buy some Legionnaires if the models look that good

 scipio.au wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
With Target it was almost completely unrelated to the game (which was actually around as popular as 40k at the time of the crash). Had they not been expanding so much at the time, they may have even survived. But with two major game lines (one with limited plastic production), an RPG, some board games and an upcoming spin-off (oh how I long for Chronopia Empires). Well, yeah, they would have needed a new source of funding, stat.

Popular - yes. That popular - no way.

Um, are you aware that the only time GW ever lowered prices was so that their price drop could coincide with the release of WZ 2nd ed? Seems like GW thought they were pretty popular...

robertsjf wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
With Target it was almost completely unrelated to the game (which was actually around as popular as 40k at the time of the crash). Had they not been expanding so much at the time, they may have even survived. But with two major game lines (one with limited plastic production), an RPG, some board games and an upcoming spin-off (oh how I long for Chronopia Empires). Well, yeah, they would have needed a new source of funding, stat.

Popular - yes. That popular - no way.

Um, are you aware that the only time GW ever lowered prices was so that their price drop could coincide with the release of WZ 2nd ed? Seems like GW thought they were pretty popular...

I also heard a rumour that GW HQ broke out the champagne when Warzone collapsed.

I played the original Warzone and loved it. If the figures look good I'd consider playing this again as I still have my original rules. It will all depend on the figures for me.

@Warzone Resurrection. Don't tease me with part shots. My attention span is fickle.

 stormwell wrote:

robertsjf wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
With Target it was almost completely unrelated to the game (which was actually around as popular as 40k at the time of the crash). Had they not been expanding so much at the time, they may have even survived. But with two major game lines (one with limited plastic production), an RPG, some board games and an upcoming spin-off (oh how I long for Chronopia Empires). Well, yeah, they would have needed a new source of funding, stat.

Popular - yes. That popular - no way.

Um, are you aware that the only time GW ever lowered prices was so that their price drop could coincide with the release of WZ 2nd ed? Seems like GW thought they were pretty popular...

I also heard a rumour that GW HQ broke out the champagne when Warzone collapsed.

This is actually not a rumour , in fact, it was not champagne but JD