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Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

 Kroothawk wrote:
Seems they like us digging for more official pics:

hey it's Sargent Hammerstein

 Ronin_eX wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
I just wanted to say. After seeing the old art for the Dark Legion troopers, and then seeing the Generic Cyber Zombies they went with....

I hope they consider revisiting them, and trying to go with a updated version of the old look. The old ones are pretty distinctive and had a cool 80's metal vibe going on, well the new ones look like Generic FPS cannon fodder.

As for the robo dude. It looks more like a face then a skull now. It's kinda a odd choice. Less terminator, and more buttler bot?
*Shrugs*

Doesn't look nearly as threatening as the concept art.

They look like the Undead Legionnaires that Simon Bisley did up for the covers of the Golgotha comics to me. I actually kind of like it a bit better than the viking-hat ULs. And of course all you really need to add are shouldpads and maybe some helmets to make 'em more Bonner-style. But borg'd zombies certainly has a resonance in the source material as well.

I've gotten bogged down in enough ambitious conversation projects that never saw the light of day or got finished in any sence. Scuplting Shoulder pads and helmets on a bunch of zombies sounds like way to much work. It would be like me telling you to shave the helmets and shoulder pads off.
XP

If you like them that's cool thow. I'm just saying they don't grab my attention like that old artwork did. Sure the old ones looked abit silly, but most sci-fi and Fantsey stuff looks silly. Might as well embrace it. lol

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

This good sir is awesome! Is it your design or an official variation of what we have already seen? If it's yours I think that the people behind WZ's resurrection should "steal" it without second thoughts.

praetor24 wrote:
If it's yours I think that the people behind WZ's resurrection should "steal" it without second thoughts.

Well it's not official by any means, and it's just a slight variation of the original Atilla without the lower jaw, so they obviously can use it as they please. Would save me some work, as I plan to buy a bunch of those.

 Lockark wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
I just wanted to say. After seeing the old art for the Dark Legion troopers, and then seeing the Generic Cyber Zombies they went with....

I hope they consider revisiting them, and trying to go with a updated version of the old look. The old ones are pretty distinctive and had a cool 80's metal vibe going on, well the new ones look like Generic FPS cannon fodder.

As for the robo dude. It looks more like a face then a skull now. It's kinda a odd choice. Less terminator, and more buttler bot?
*Shrugs*

Doesn't look nearly as threatening as the concept art.

They look like the Undead Legionnaires that Simon Bisley did up for the covers of the Golgotha comics to me. I actually kind of like it a bit better than the viking-hat ULs. And of course all you really need to add are shouldpads and maybe some helmets to make 'em more Bonner-style. But borg'd zombies certainly has a resonance in the source material as well.

I've gotten bogged down in enough ambitious conversation projects that never saw the light of day or got finished in any sence. Scuplting Shoulder pads and helmets on a bunch of zombies sounds like way to much work. It would be like me telling you to shave the helmets and shoulder pads off.
XP

If you like them that's cool thow. I'm just saying they don't grab my attention like that old artwork did. Sure the old ones looked abit silly, but most sci-fi and Fantsey stuff looks silly. Might as well embrace it. lol

Wasn't suggesting anyone sculpt anything. It was actually more aimed at Prodos as a conversion bitz pack. I'm just saying that non-helmeted, shoulder-padless bio-borg style Undead Legionnaires exist in the actual art for the game, and have for quite a while. Not everyone's cuppa, but I just hate it when people say they are generic shooter zombies when they look like stuff Bisley was painting for the setting since 1st Edition.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
hey it's Sargent Hammerstein

And that is why I love that head design. Mutant Chronicles was always basically 2000AD+Heavy Metal Magazine THE GAME. So the more design cues they can grab, the better.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Seems they like us digging for more official pics:

hey it's Sargent Hammerstein

This one is a lot better than the official one, they should includ it as an option.
This game looks interesting, is there a site where we can learn some info on the stroy and the factions ?. I've been searching for a new miniature sci-fi game in plastic, since GW seem to insist on prcing theyr products as outrageously as possible.

Edit : meant to quote "His Master's Voice" version

streetsamurai wrote:
This game looks interesting, is there a site where we can learn some info on the stroy and the factions ?.

Go to mutantpedia.com. Pretty much everything that was published for Warzone is available as pdfs there.

seems like a mis of 40k and shadowrun, from the little I read. Wich is cool since they're my two favorites setting.

Is there any alien faction in the game ?

The Dark Legion are kinda alien. A lot of their units are formed from actual subdued species, like the Ilian Templars or Calistonian Dancers.

 catharsix wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
On the contrary I kinda hope there isn't a Kickstarter. I'm getting pretty damn sick of them at this point.

Yeah, this. I'd prefer to be able to buy them on the 15th. Rather than pay for them on the 15th to receive in November October March 2014

Lol, I kinda like your snark here. It would be nice to just do the old fashioned, "here's my money in exchange for your product" kinda thing. It seems that they already are further along than some KSs have been *COUGH*Gates of Antares*COUGH* so maybe we can actually do the old-school way.

-C6

Heh, it may be a little snarky. But damn, I'd really like to see a new products pimped here that are actually new products ready to buy, rather than seemingly most things being Kickstarters... And, you know. I'd like to pick up some of these and actually start playing the new version of the game in the short term, rather than 6-12 months down the line.


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 His Master's Voice wrote:
I agree the lower jaw should be solid. Other than that it looks good. Kinda wish they'd go with the original skull design there. Nothing I can't fix myself though.

Yeah, I'd prefer optional heads, but failing that, the solid head or the skull heads work best. Not a massive fan of the ABC Warrior head if it's the only option.

 Ronin_eX wrote:


Wasn't suggesting anyone sculpt anything. It was actually more aimed at Prodos as a conversion bitz pack. I'm just saying that non-helmeted, shoulder-padless bio-borg style Undead Legionnaires exist in the actual art for the game, and have for quite a while. Not everyone's cuppa, but I just hate it when people say they are generic shooter zombies when they look like stuff Bisley was painting for the setting since 1st Edition.

I'm sorry, but as a outsider looking in. Thows zombies look like they would be at home in Duke Nukem Forever.
=P

I said eariler in this thread I have no nostalgia or anything to make me like or dislike this game. So I'm just going solely off the mini's.

 -DE- wrote:
I don't know, I need something to knock me off my feet, and fast, 'cause I'm not impressed with what I'm seeing. It all looks so... amateurish, including the publicity campaign, though make no mistake, I have no doubt the folk behind it are competent.

It's still better than Gates of Antares.

Way better. Way, way better.

I'm liking the previews more and more. I find the latest robotic head to actually be a bit creepy. I think painting this new stuff up in very gritty stark colours is going to make a great foundation for horror-scifi gaming.

Is the game still on schedule for release?

 His Master's Voice wrote:

praetor24 wrote:
If it's yours I think that the people behind WZ's resurrection should "steal" it without second thoughts.

Well it's not official by any means, and it's just a slight variation of the original Atilla without the lower jaw, so they obviously can use it as they please. Would save me some work, as I plan to buy a bunch of those.

Try to convince them to make it real. Honestly, it's a hell of a concept! The best option that has been suggested so far, officially or otherwise.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

hell to the yeee! make it so.........

I remember having Siege of the Citadel as a kid, it was the first miniature game I ever owned... I'd like to track down a copy again lol

Just for you.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=siege+of+the+citadel&_sacat=0&_from=R40

I'll see if I can get it here before I can get it there... here I can lessen the price with models I don't want lol

 Nicklas_danielsson wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

hell to the yeee! make it so.........

+1,000

Hell yeah to that!!!!!

I just dug all my old Mutant Chronicles RPG books out of storage.

Time for an appropriate avatar.

praetor24 wrote:

 Nicklas_danielsson wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

hell to the yeee! make it so.........

+1,000
Hell yeah to that!!!!!

I prefer the original version with the mouth, but tastes differ.

Concept art and 3d renders does nothing for me... Unless a company has good tracking record of competent casting and model making I stay away from what in reality is just sketchy ideas of a model.
Want me to be interested in their minis please show me the finished minis...

You can have the best concept in the world but if you cant translate it into a mini is good as nothing. SO many things can ruin the final product quality that well I just cannot be exited about this. The only print I have seen does seem to have a bad design choice regarding arm joints... and soft detail.

I won't let you bring down my good mood...

 NAVARRO wrote:
Concept art and 3d renders does nothing for me... Unless a company has good tracking record of competent casting and model making I stay away from what in reality is just sketchy ideas of a model.
Want me to be interested in their minis please show me the finished minis...

You can have the best concept in the world but if you cant translate it into a mini is good as nothing. SO many things can ruin the final product quality that well I just cannot be exited about this. The only print I have seen does seem to have a bad design choice regarding arm joints... and soft detail.

It is totally reasonable to wait until other people have them in their hands and report on them. People do that for all sorts of new products and it's especially appropriate for miniatures as they are so tactile.

But I've seen a ton of new miniature produces pop over of the last couple decades and go on to make great ranges of miniatures. Everyone has their "first time" and learns from it.

Renders, concept art and some 3d printed masters might not be a guarantee of quality, but they are proof that the people involved are going through the same process of miniature product development than previous companies that have successfully brought miniatures to market have done.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Concept art and 3d renders does nothing for me... Unless a company has good tracking record of competent casting and model making I stay away from what in reality is just sketchy ideas of a model.
Want me to be interested in their minis please show me the finished minis...

You can have the best concept in the world but if you cant translate it into a mini is good as nothing. SO many things can ruin the final product quality that well I just cannot be exited about this. The only print I have seen does seem to have a bad design choice regarding arm joints... and soft detail.

15th Feb... and your eyes will hurt, as mines already...

now, more about rules:

Guess it's my 40k baggage, but I'm not sure why would plasma be less damaging against Light armour than against Heavy. Or why would Bio get a bonus against piercing. Then again, as long as it makes sense in terms of game balance, I won't mind it.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Concept art and 3d renders does nothing for me... Unless a company has good tracking record of competent casting and model making I stay away from what in reality is just sketchy ideas of a model.
Want me to be interested in their minis please show me the finished minis...

You can have the best concept in the world but if you cant translate it into a mini is good as nothing. SO many things can ruin the final product quality that well I just cannot be exited about this. The only print I have seen does seem to have a bad design choice regarding arm joints... and soft detail.

I hereby nominate you as the new bearer of the Icon of Eeyore, I am done, and undone.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Concept art and 3d renders does nothing for me... Unless a company has good tracking record of competent casting and model making I stay away from what in reality is just sketchy ideas of a model.
Want me to be interested in their minis please show me the finished minis...

You can have the best concept in the world but if you cant translate it into a mini is good as nothing. SO many things can ruin the final product quality that well I just cannot be exited about this. The only print I have seen does seem to have a bad design choice regarding arm joints... and soft detail.

15th Feb... and your eyes will hurt, as mines already...

That's the spirit. We will talk on the 15th then.

To make it clear I really wish you and all new mini companies projects all the best of luck... I just find that with the Kickstarters trends of lots of concepts and no minis and also some new and old companies selling stuff just based on 3d renders kind of anti climax for someone who just wants to buy minis by actually looking at minis.