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The new ranger concept looks really cewl! But I'm really no fan of the wolf-head, a smooth breast plate will look sooo much better.

I have a question about this game I hope someone can answer.

In this game does your army have to be lead by a named character? Is their no options for generic characters so you can make your own heros?

I only ask because it seems the Bauhaus and Dark Legion boxs come with named characters, well the Cybertronic and Brotherhood boxs don't have named characters.

In the first edition, you had the choice of a few named characters per faction, and many, many generic options for heroes.

If I remember correctly, there was no army leader per se. Just a limited amount of heroes you could field, so they tended, in my meta, to be used to their maximum potential.

 Lockark wrote:
I have a question about this game I hope someone can answer.

In this game does your army have to be lead by a named character? Is their no options for generic characters so you can make your own heros?

I only ask because it seems the Bauhaus and Dark Legion boxs come with named characters, well the Cybertronic and Brotherhood boxs don't have named characters.

There will be generic characters and apparently Prodos is bringing back customization ala 1st Edition. During 2nd and Ultimate characters were basically purchased as a package deal, no real variation or anything. But 1st Edition was quite a bit more RPG-like with it. Now, in 1st this caused a few troubles, though most of those were found in the ability to grab 4+ actions for a character and then have them sport the biggest guns in the game while having some of the highest skills. Luckily Prodos seem to have fixed a lot of these issues. So hopefully they can give that awesome custom-character flavour without having guys firing 12+ rounds of tank-killer strength shots the shred whole squads. But considering at their peak they can get three actions now, that should be less of an issue.

The named characters are just a good way to grab some brand recognition right of the bat, since Bonner tended to do paintings of the movers and shakers (especially Mitch Hunter, the Capitol version of every action movie star ever).

But the news of custom characters has me excited. I wonder if their will be conversion rules for the RPG again?

I think more than the RPG element, though, it was fun because it allowed the player to tailor his heroes to his play-style.

That is definitely true. If they can give us that feeling but without the Nimrod-toting Walking Minister of Death vibe, then I'll be happy. I mean, I still want 'em to have heavy and special weapons as an option, I just don't want then to clear out a 10-man squad in one round of firing. The hero in the Beta actually feels pretty good. Strong enough to go on his own, but a squad is definitely a threat to him if he gets too cocky. They felt sufficiently two-fisted and pulpy without overpowering things. Give them a good list for custom abilities and gear and I will be in heaven.

That's cool to know. I just wasn't sure since in the beta rules they had unit cards. I like named charaters and all, but I also like the option for build-a-charaters. It's a relife to know their will be both.

Speaking of RPG elements, have their been any talk about campaign rules? Because if they included a blank templet in the rule book you can fill out with the name, statline, and XP of your heroes. That could make for some interesting campaign rules.

 Lockark wrote:
I have a question about this game I hope someone can answer.

In this game does your army have to be lead by a named character? Is their no options for generic characters so you can make your own heros?

I only ask because it seems the Bauhaus and Dark Legion boxs come with named characters, well the Cybertronic and Brotherhood boxs don't have named characters.

Brotherhood got Cardinal Dominic as a named character but I'm not sure If the Everassur is a named character or not but I've got the impression It somehow is.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

Damn, now I have to get money so I can pledge.

Kudos, thank you for listening!

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

Congratulations on listening to the red tinted glasses crowd, ruining the best improvement you did on the basic bauhause form and ruining the only faction I was interested in getting a starter for.

Seriously why this change why shoulderpads that float on thin air, why the sudden fall back to 20 years back no sense design, I thought the project was to bring the warzone IP to the modern era.

Michal@Prodos wrote:Relief stays, but noone said it will be only one version of torso.

So for all the wolf-haters out there, it wont be the only torso option, but it will be there. So at least a nice compromise.

 Ronin_eX wrote:

Michal@Prodos wrote:Relief stays, but noone said it will be only one version of torso.

So for all the wolf-haters out there, it wont be the only torso option, but it will be there. So at least a nice compromise.

Good to know

I for one welcome our new pug-kommando overlords! Semper-yip!

I really like the new look of the hussars, the shoulder pads just need a minor tweek to give them a more natural feel. The gun looks a bit massive but great looking never the less!

So those of us who liked the new design aren't going to get what we wanted, and the people who cried about it and forced the change probably still plan to use all their old models.

It's win/win! lol...

I still think it looks okay, but I really preferred the old one. I guess it's good that they're clearly listening to people, but I was personally hoping this would be the one thing they wouldn't budge on.

 Sidstyler wrote:
So those of us who liked the new design aren't going to get what we wanted, and the people who cried about it and forced the change probably still plan to use all their old models.

It's win/win! lol...

Yeah.

I won't mind it all the much if the shoulder pads are easy to remove, so I'll wait for the actual casts to see if I really have an issue with it (outside of them not making any sense in the current position but whatever). As long as I don't have to do too much work on those, the Hussars will be everything I need to make a BH force, including Rangers and Dragoons (which I'm guessing will be changed as well).

Bahaus still ranks number one for one of the two forces I will pick up,(still waiting for Capital since Imperial isnt on the horizon). The new Hussars look great. The Ranger looks pretty awesome as well, hate the wolf thing. Not big on the fur cloak, I agree with someone else above, it needs to be a smooth cloak or if they are an ambush force, a ghili cloak.

Think to the past, who were the lightly armored Bahaus guys that had Rotary shotguns, and their heavy guy had Dual Rotary Shotguns? Would love to see the revision of them.

Col. Dash wrote:

Think to the past, who were the lightly armored Bahaus guys that had Rotary shotguns, and their heavy guy had Dual Rotary Shotguns? Would love to see the revision of them.

Those were the Jungle Kommandos.

Kroothawk! Stop with the nightmarish shirts! I can't take it anymore.

and more to come !!!!!

I like it!

Option to replace closed hatch with an open one plus a tank commander would be great.

Alright, off to find a spare £55!

It's very cool they are resurrecting that tank! But the tank is only the size of a Land Raider, the original (Forgeworld/Armorcast) model was significantly larger.

Approximate Dimensions: 4 inches wide by 7 inches long

I'm kind of curious how it will look with a 3D figure in scale next to it...

Thanks to our friends, Small Impact Games for designing this iconic model for us. Check out their Kickstarter project. If you pledge with us and them you will get a Limited Edition full-colour print of the Grizzly for free.

Keep watching for 3 more 'Tanks' coming very soon!

Approximate dimensions: 4" wide x 7" long
Dispatched in August 2013

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/m3ch/m3ch

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/mutant-chronicles-warzone-resurrection?ref=live

3 more tanks? I don't think my wallet can cope with that!

Sweet, the old Grizzly! Dont drive it on parade with those treads.

Prodos wrote:
Thanks to our friends, Small Impact Games for designing this iconic model for us. Check out their Kickstarter project. If you pledge with us and them you will get a Limited Edition full-colour print of the Grizzly for free.

Keep watching for 3 more 'Tanks' coming very soon!

Approximate dimensions: 4" wide x 7" long
Dispatched in August 2013

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/m3ch/m3ch

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/mutant-chronicles-warzone-resurrection?ref=live

Spoiler:

I'd love to see the Grizzly back in action, but at only 4x7 inches, that's NOT a Grizzly.

Maybe it should be called the "Cub"?

This is a Grizzly.


Still, it's an appealing tank for 80 bucks. If I didn't have the Miyazaki original kit I'd be very tempted.

Eilif wrote:


I'd love to see the Grizzly back in action, but at only 4x7 inches, that's NOT a Grizzly.

Agreed. 5" x 9" would better capture the mass of the Grizzly.

Tim

Oddly enough, this should make it closer in scale to the one in Bonner's painting. And it's not like the original was in scale to the original fluff either. True scale versions are not feasible outside of 15mm. Still, I hope we get the Cobra as well, I loved those things.

timd wrote:

Eilif wrote:


I'd love to see the Grizzly back in action, but at only 4x7 inches, that's NOT a Grizzly.

Agreed. 5" x 9" would better capture the mass of the Grizzly.

Tim

Or maybe even 6x10! The original was quite a beast. I still regret not buying one when I saw it in "Gamers Paridise" in the 90's.