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My mates and I were having a discussion about this, actually relating to Colonial Marines and the question was, what game, keeping in mind the time it was released, would you truly have considered worthy of a '10/10' review score.

Some suggestions were:

Knights of The Old Republic 1
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 2
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Half Life 1
Half Life 2
AVP 2 (for the time)
TIE Fighter
Cannon Fodder
Skyrim (after patches?)
Final Fantasy VII
The Witcher 2

Basically, the sort of realms of discussion wasn't 'the perfect game' - it was instead, what could you justify a reviewer giving to a game.

Games that truly deserved a 10/10? Lets see, from what I've played:

Super Mario Bros.
Metroid
Sonic the Hedgehog
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Goldeneye 007
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Pokemon Red and Blue
Gladius
Metroid Prime
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Halo: Combat Evolved
Knights of the Old Republic
Rome: Total War
Titan Quest
Call of Duty 2 (PC only)
Call of Duty Modern Warfare
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

None, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Besides, numerical scoring systems for games are crap anyway.

You should read the last line of the OP. Assuming the perfect game to be an unobtainable goal, then the 10/10 score just ends up being the "as good as we can expect a game to get" sort of thing.

GTA III
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
GTA IV (+Expansion Packs)
Skyrim
MGS3
MGS
MGS4 (at least the playable segments )
Halo
Oddworld: Stranger
Half Life
Half life 2 (+expansions)
Command and Conquer: Zero Hour
Command and Conquer: Red Alert
Gran Turismo 2
Portal (+expansion aka 'portal 2' )

EDIT:
Rome: Total War
Age of Empires 2: Age of Kings (+Expansions)
EDIT 2:
Mass Effect 2

 Soladrin wrote:
None, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Besides, numerical scoring systems for games are crap anyway.

Clearly you haven't played Magicka.

I agree that numerical scoring systems are crappy.

Games that I think are so good that there isn't a really a way to make them better:

HL2
Magicka
Batman AA

That are really good but have some issues

Just Cause 2 and Red Faction Guerilla (similiar games but suffer from poor saving system and lack of really interesting missions, jc2 first mission was the best rfg's best was the sniper mssion near end)
Bad Company 2 (multiplayer is friggin awesome. better maps and this game would easily be the best mp fps)
Tribes Accend (I got tires with the pay2win which propably is fixed)
Mount&Blade Warband (myriad of small things)
Dungoen Defenders (Jester class pretty much saved this game)
Left 4 Dead 2 (the game is great, players aren't)
GTA San Andreas (only thing gta4 did better was ragdolls)
Fallout New Vegas (scenery is lacking, game uses a crappy engine, publisher was a dick)

Overrated games:

Minecraft
games made by bethesda
ass greed games

 illuknisaa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
None, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Besides, numerical scoring systems for games are crap anyway.

Clearly you haven't played Magica.

I agree that numerical scoring systems are crappy.

I have, I got bored after about 20 minutes.

Probably the only one I can think of off the top of my head would have been Half Life.

This is in effect what the UK official Xbox 360 magazine does, and on that thought here is their 10/10 games for reference.

Skyrim,
Deus Ex: Human Evolution
Project Gotham Racing 4
Portal 2
Bioshock
Mass Effect 3
GTA IV
Fez
Minecraft

Not a bad list, for one console at least.


As to any I'd add, hmm.

Mass Effect 2
Halo Reach
Batman: Arkham City
Civilisation 2
Final Fantasy VII
Pokemon Sapphire/Ruby
Wow: Wrath of the Lich King

 Soladrin wrote:

 illuknisaa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
None, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Besides, numerical scoring systems for games are crap anyway.

Clearly you haven't played Magica.

I agree that numerical scoring systems are crappy.

I have, I got bored after about 20 minutes.

How is that possible? Me and my bro had loads of fun and that was just two of us.

 illuknisaa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 illuknisaa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
None, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Besides, numerical scoring systems for games are crap anyway.

Clearly you haven't played Magica.

I agree that numerical scoring systems are crappy.

I have, I got bored after about 20 minutes.

How is that possible? Me and my bro had loads of fun and that was just two of us.

Tried playing alone. Boring as feth. Played it with purple, about 15 minutes in it just devolves into killing each other and I get bored again. It's just not that interesting.

Killing each other my arse.
I was slaughtering you...

Silent Hill 2 without a doubt.

Man, so many of the games listed I wouldnt even consider 9/10

a Few I would consider like 6/10

None. 10/10 means flawless.

Everything is flawed. Ergo, 10/10 is impossible.

Breakdown for Xbox.

It was the greatest game that nobody ever played. I'm sure it had it's flaws, but I never noticed them, and the story and how it was played out blew me away.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
None. 10/10 means flawless.

Everything is flawed. Ergo, 10/10 is impossible.

OP even stated that a perfect game is impossible. The question is what do you consider to be as close to perfect as possible.


Age of Empires 2
Medieval 2: Total War
Arcanum
Morrowind
Skyrim
KoTOR 2
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3 (Despite the ending fiasco, the rest of the game was good enough to make up for it)

 Gitkikka wrote:
Silent Hill 2 without a doubt.

Yes, 100% for me as well, can't believe I didn't think of it earlier.

I dont even understand how people think KotOR 2 is a good game, much less an amazing game.

My list I think is
Goldeneye (N64)
Perfect Dark (N64)
Rogue Squadron (N64)
World in Conflict (PC)
Starcaft (PC)
Red Alert (PC)
Red Alert 2 (PC)
Halo (XBox)
KotOR
Dragon Age Origins (PC)
Company of Heroes (PC)


Mass Effect 3 just barely misses it in my eyes.

What i think are 10 outa 10 games for their time eh? Lets see.....

Dungeon Keeper 1 -Great strategy game that could be infuriatingly difficult at times. I loved having the ability to create a dungeon where the only limit was my tech tree and map space (I would beat a level then turn the entire map into the dungeon at times)

Populous -An absolute blast, being the shaman blasting spells at poor fools well your tribesmen protected you was never dull, some levels were a damn near impossible challenge until you figured out the trick to them (I'm looking at you timed levels)

Super Mario World 2 -A classic and how Mario should have stayed, as far as I know it was the first game where you you were able to utilize Yoshi. Nice bits of comedy and it was cool how if you got to the secret area in the star road and beat it you would change the look of the entire game enemies included

Brain Lord -Very first game I ever played so it holds a fond place in my heart, great combat with a lot of different weapons and some spells to choose from, nice advantage over the Zelda games where the faeries actually fight for you

Legend of Zelda a Link to the Past -First Zelda game I ever played, loved the overworld and the top down view of the game, only game that still takes me around 3 to 4 months to beat

Skyrim -This one I'm leery to put on here, never tried the vanilla game as I modded the hell outa it right away (got to have pipe bomb chickens and posh mudcrabs)

Dark Souls -Completely brutal game that bends you over and makes you take it when you mess up, lots of weaponry and spells, the bosses are a challenge and make you feel insignificant, and I'm still discovering things i did not know about

Demons Souls -See Dark Souls minus still discovering things

 Galdos wrote:
I dont even understand how people think KotOR 2 is a good game, much less an amazing game.

My list I think is
Goldeneye (N64)
Perfect Dark (N64)
Rogue Squadron (N64)
World in Conflict (PC)
Starcaft (PC)
Red Alert (PC)
Red Alert 2 (PC)
Halo (XBox)
KotOR
Dragon Age Origins (PC)
Company of Heroes (PC)


Mass Effect 3 just barely misses it in my eyes.

The story was ok, but the AI in that game was so dumb it made it into a pause fest in every battle.

I suppose that depends how much you really got into the 'character tactics' aspect of the game. - I loved that bit, which meant the only character I tended to need to 'play' during most fights was a shooty one or mage.

Here goes my 10 10/10's:

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Bioshock
Dead Space
Mass Effect 2
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Final Fantasy VII
Super Metroid
Mega Man 2
Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door

I was tempted to add Skyrim, but it does have its flaws, I love it to death but the quite epic amount of bugs/glitches and hassle I've had with it has knocked it down to a 9.9/10.

Also how the OP got on to this conversation from Colonial Marines confuses me. It's a 6/10 at best in my books.

It's not that exciting. It pretty much came from the supposition that.

"Isn't it weird how a AAA title like Aliens is getting rubbish review scores. I always thought AAA titles always end up getting really high scores, like 10/10, despite actually being terrible..."

"So what do you think would be worth a 10/10 then?"

There is no thing as perfect game, all games have some kind of flaw.
But those who are close to it 9.5/10 or 98% of 100% are:

Half Life
Half Life 2
Command and Conquer Generals: Zero Hour
Diablo 2
Warcraft 3 ( + expansion )
Call of Duty ( + expansion )
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 4
Dawn of War ( + expansions )
Dawn of War 2 ( + expansions )
Stronghold Crusader
Crysis
Crysis 2
Far Cry
Far Cry 3
Starcraft
Starcraft 2
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Star Wars Battlefield
Star Wars Battlefield 2
Company of Heroes ( + expansions )
Medal of Honor ( + expansions )
Original War
Fallout 3
The Walking Dead
Bioshock
Bioshock 2
Battlefield 1942 ( + expansions )
Battlefield Vietnam
Battlefield 3
Max Payne
Max Payne 2
Max Payne 3
Age of Empires 3
Age of Mythology ( + expansion )
Rise of Nations ( + expansion )
Rome : Total War
Empire Total War
Napoleon: Total War
Return to Castle Wolfenstein ( old and new game )
GTA 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
GTA IV
Halo
Halo 2
AvP
AvP 2 ( + expansion )
any many others, can't remember now all of them....

The only game that I played in my life that in my opinion deserve 10/10 and 100% out of 100% is - Fate/Stay Night.
Sure, it's a visual novel, but video game nonetheless. Never in any game I saw story so addicting and never in any game I got attached to characters so much to the point of crying at the game's first ending. Truly a magnificent game...

How does anyone give a 10/10 to a game with a horrible story (If you didnt even finish the main quest of Skyriim I dont see how you can claim its worth a 10) or doesnt even have one (Battlefield series)

Lol forgot it was called CnC: Generals and not CnC: Zero Hour. Also good shout with the Max Payne series, loved the first two to death, will pick up the 3rd at some point for cheaps. Personally i prefer 2 as the addition of Physics really added alot for me.

Also i might as well add GTA V.
I already know it will be the perfect game.

The reason i didnt put in Red Dead Redemption is because although the Writing, Art and Animation is 10/10 the missions were rubbish. Ride somewhere, shoot about 500 guys, get on a mounted ye olde minigun, on rails shooting sequence. Rinse and Repeat.

 Galdos wrote:
How does anyone give a 10/10 to a game with a horrible story (If you didnt even finish the main quest of Skyriim I dont see how you can claim its worth a 10) or doesnt even have one (Battlefield series)

Who said that the game need to have perfect storyline to work?
In Sjyrim you build your own story and have a tom of things to enjoy.

And Battlefield series is good for gameplay.

I didn't gave 10 to them, I said games taht deserve 9 or 9.5 or 98% max.
I only give one game pure 10.

Oh, while I remember, I'd put saints row 1 and 2 up there as near perfect games. Crazy yet serious story, great challenge rewards, great character you could really root for.

There never was a third one. I don't know what you're talking about.

 Galdos wrote:
How does anyone give a 10/10 to a game with a horrible story (If you didnt even finish the main quest of Skyriim I dont see how you can claim its worth a 10) or doesnt even have one (Battlefield series)

A game only needs a story/MQ if it is story/MQ driven. None of the TES or Fallout 3 are oriented heavily around the MQ.

Concerning Skyrim:
1) Better main quest than Oblivion and many other recent big name RPGs (DA:O, DA2, and ME2 come to mind. I don't think ME1 had a particularly good main story for the most part either). Honestly, did anyone particularly enjoy the Oblivion MQ?
2) Good faction quests aside from the Stormcloak/Imperial Legion.
3) Good Daedric quests, especially Molag Bal, Sheogorath, Sanquinis, and Namira (if only because the Namira questline was the first time I've actually been creeped out by a video game in a while).
4) Some very fun miscellaneous quests.

I think Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim have been fairly consistent in the quality of the quests/questlines other than the MQ.