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Power armor is like a second skin, including, in many cases, being linked to your nervous system via a cerebral plug.

Hell, cerebral plugs are actually considered cheap in-universe according to FFG (cheaper and more common than a lasgun), there's really no reason why most powered armor wouldn't include them.

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What are you responding to?

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They're nuns. Being chaste goes with being a nun. And it is better that way, really it is. 99% of time when someone wants Sisters not to be chaste it is because of their marine/SoB porn fantasies.


   
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Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with them being people having mortal desires.

I could agree with you if everyone voicing those opinions was penning such smut.

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 Amaya wrote:
Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with them being people having mortal desires.

I could agree with you if everyone voicing those opinions was penning such smut.
To be fair, although I think he's exaggerating (it's a high number to be sure, but ninety nine percent is harsh), he still didn't say everyone.


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 Amaya wrote:
What are you responding to?
I was responding to your preference for terminator armor.

Power armor is probably actually really comfortable!

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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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Are real nuns (who are chaste) somehow not real women?

   
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Melissia wrote:
 Amaya wrote:
Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with them being people having mortal desires.

I could agree with you if everyone voicing those opinions was penning such smut.
To be fair, although I think he's exaggerating (it's a high number to be sure, but ninety nine percent is harsh), he still didn't say everyone.
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 Amaya wrote:
What are you responding to?
I was responding to your preference for terminator armor.

Power armor is probably actually really comfortable!


I wouldn't be surprised if the majority were, sadly enough. Why use power armor when you can be a walking tank with a built Power Fist and Autocannon?

Crimson wrote:Are real nuns (who are chaste) somehow not real women?


Do you really believe every nun who has ever lived has been chaste her entire life?

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 Amaya wrote:

Do you really believe every nun who has ever lived has been chaste her entire life?


Of course not, nor I expect every Sister to be either. I am merely referring to the rules and practices of the Orders. Some individual Sisters obviously break some of the rules, that's how we get Repentias.

   
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Oh wow, it's not like I didn't already say that a page or so before this...


Spoiler:
Sarcasm

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Amaya wrote:Sisters of Battle being chaste is very problematic. This only goes to reinforce the Madonna-Whore complex. Why should anyone care if they feth anyone? Religious fanatism only goes so far.


*cough* Feth was explicitly stated to be the name of a Tanith tree-spirit, and not a euphemism for (In Gaunt's words) "Uh... that."

I don't recall the 'cleave only to the God-emperor' line, but it is nearly midnight. Could you pass us a page reference for the tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies please?



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BlaxicanX wrote:

Who wouldn't want to run around naked, swinging a giant chainsword?


Ron Jeremy.

   
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I would if I knew where the line actually came from. I don't remember it from any of their respective codices.

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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Amaya wrote:Sisters of Battle being chaste is very problematic. This only goes to reinforce the Madonna-Whore complex. Why should anyone care if they feth anyone? Religious fanatism only goes so far.


*cough* Feth was explicitly stated to be the name of a Tanith tree-spirit, and not a euphemism for (In Gaunt's words) "Uh... that."

I don't recall the 'cleave only to the God-emperor' line, but it is nearly midnight. Could you pass us a page reference for the tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies please?


I suddenly have an urge to start an SOB army...

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Yeah, I totally missed that last sentence.

That was a bit excessive...

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Eh. Tired and lazy. Should I edit it out? ><



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It's too late now. By this moment at least a dozen people have seen it and are now frantically searching the interwebs for similar content.

The legend has begun.

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What have I done?!

I'm my own worst enemy in this war against bad Sisters fluff, aren't I?

I guess it can't be helped then...




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I'm not sure if I think the facial expressions are endearing or obnoxious.

That one was funny though.

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I don't recall the 'cleave only to the God-emperor' line, but it is nearly midnight. Could you pass us a page reference for the tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies please?


o.0

That's a... pretty superhuman feat. You should be canonized for that alone.

... and I'm at work at the moment, and will be for a couple hours yet. If I remember to do so by the time I get off work, I will come back and post them but... no guarantees.

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 Amaya wrote:
Oh wow, it's not like I didn't already say that a page or so before this...


So we agree then?


   
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 Furyou Miko wrote:
tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies
Hey, it's good to meet another person like that!

Jokes aside, I view Sisters of Battle as much more militant than many people on this forum seem to.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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Crimson wrote:
 Amaya wrote:
Oh wow, it's not like I didn't already say that a page or so before this...


So we agree then?



Yes.

Melissia wrote:
 Furyou Miko wrote:
tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies
Hey, it's good to meet another person like that!

Jokes aside, I view Sisters of Battle as much more militant than many people on this forum seem to.



I think you mean militarized. They can't really get much more militant short of serving in combat 24/7/365.

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Why separate them?

I feel no need to separate my love of Space Marines from my love of machismo-fuelled homoeroticism. The latter enhances the former, and is indeed a fundamental aspect of Space Marine fluff.
   
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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Why separate them?

I feel no need to separate my love of Space Marines from my love of machismo-fuelled homoeroticism. The latter enhances the former, and is indeed a fundamental aspect of Space Marine fluff.


In the distance, a wild yaoi fangirl squeals with ecstatic glee.

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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Why separate them?

I feel no need to separate my love of Space Marines from my love of machismo-fuelled homoeroticism.
Don't forget the Greco-Roman style pederasty!

Oh man is "the creation of a space marine" incredibly creepy and disturbing if you think about it too much.


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 Amaya wrote:
I think you mean militarized. They can't really get much more militant short of serving in combat 24/7/365.
Fair enough.

I see Sisters closer to a monastic version of Knights Hospitaller than "nuns with guns" myself.

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One must also think of the incest-ridden undertones of the Primarch/Astartes relationship.

Spoiler:


Magnus the Red stood directly below the device, looking up through the crystal into the night sky directly above the centre of Occullum Square.
He was naked but for a loincloth, his flesh bare to the elements and gleaming with oil.
Ahriman watched as Amon massaged a mixture of sandalwood, jasmine and benzoin oil into Magnus’ flesh. Uthizzar scraped the excess oil from
the primarch’s body with a bone-bladed knife as Auramagma held a smoking censer that filled the air with the fragrance of cinquefoil. Phael Toron
stood next to Ahriman, his body language stiff and awkward.



Oh Graham McNeill...
   
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Did someone mention gene seed injections?

Spoiler:

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Thank you, Amaya, for introducing me to something awesome today.

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 Melissia wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
If being a women would make the character better and improve the story, hell yeah make the character a women.
This "All characters should be male unless otherwise needed" attitude of yours is WHY there's so much bad writing to begin with-- the writers with that attitude only consider women in terms of how they're different from men, instead of considering women as their own characters, as actual people, resulting in bland, unimaginative characters.

It's bizarre and circular logic that's best described as a self-fulfilling prophecy.


Forgive them, they're only men with pencils and keyboards. They don't know what they're doing.

 
   
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Amaya wrote:I'm not sure if I think the facial expressions are endearing or obnoxious.

That one was funny though.


Let me know when you figure it out, I'm still not sure how often I should use them myself. ^^;

Melissia wrote:
 Furyou Miko wrote:
tired and lazy girl who somehow manages to keep her love of the Sisters of Battle entirely separate from her lesbian bondage fantasies
Hey, it's good to meet another person like that!

Jokes aside, I view Sisters of Battle as much more militant than many people on this forum seem to.


Same - the way I figure the average Sister's day goes is something like

05.00: Wake up and pray.
06.00: Squad-based private devotions.
06.30: Morning run.
07.00: Morning ablutions and Breakfast.
07.30: General Mass.
09.00: Hand-to-hand training
10.30: Prayer session
11.00: Bolter drill
13.00: Lunch
13.30: General Mass.
15.00: Combat simulations.
18.00: Personal reflection and devotions.
19.00: Evening run.
19.30: Evening ablutions and dinner.
20.30: General mass.
21.00: Night combat exercises.
23.00: Evening prayers and Bed.

Void__Dragon wrote:Why separate them?

I feel no need to separate my love of Space Marines from my love of machismo-fuelled homoeroticism. The latter enhances the former, and is indeed a fundamental aspect of Space Marine fluff.


Well, so far we don't have any fluff of Sisters hanging out in bathrobes or oiling each other up, which makes it easier. Plus, I like to keep my hobbies separate. :p



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