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Hi, I'm playing csm and sometimes I feel badass enough to put in all my 3 so-loved nasty Heldrakes into play so my opponent cries enough to unleash up the powers of chaos Gods (don't know if that makes sense but I'm a chaos player so things I say sometimes use a chaotic logic).

On page 125 of the BRB, it says that : ''Units in Ongoing Reserve always re-enter play at the start of their controlling player's following turn, but otherwise follow the normal rules for Reserves''.

So, going back to page 124 for ''normal rules'' we can read that : ''When a Reserves unit arrives, it must move fully onto the table from the controlling player's own table edge''.

Unless I'm missing something (I hope I do), if, for example, my heldrake leaves the table from my opponent's table side, it will come back into play next turn from my table side. That would mean the heldrake could travel a very long distance by that time.

My friends and I find that the heldrake should re-enter by the side it left, but we cannot find the right answer to our question by the BRB. So we are going to houserule that, but I would like to know what will happen when I put down my 3 drakes on the table in a game out of my inner circle of friends.

Thanks

The heldrake enters from your side. Those are the rules.
IIRC there is a restriction on things with ongoing reserves not getting to outflank and the like.

The rulebook is quite clear that they always re-enter from the controlling player's table side. Think of it as the aircraft having to swoop around in a big arc and make another pass. This also prevents you from easily getting rear armor shots by coming in the side you left from.

Wow.....we've been playing this wrong. I could have swore we saw somewhere that you come back on from the board edge you left on, but looking at the rules again, that's completely wrong

 liturgies of blood wrote:
The heldrake enters from your side. Those are the rules.
IIRC there is a restriction on things with ongoing reserves not getting to outflank and the like.

Would need a source for this... I don't believe that is in the BRB. Losing your special rules would be an absolutely game-changer for deepstrike mishaps, if so. Being put into on-going reserves would mean that now you have to walk that unit of terminators on from your board edge rather than DSing them, rendering them essentially useless. I do not think that this is how it works.

 NickTheButcher wrote:
Wow.....we've been playing this wrong. I could have swore we saw somewhere that you come back on from the board edge you left on, but looking at the rules again, that's completely wrong

Only in Fantasy.

How does this effect deep strikers that have to go back into ongoing reserves? They need to enter from their board edge? That seems weird.

Cheesedoodler wrote:

 liturgies of blood wrote:
The heldrake enters from your side. Those are the rules.
IIRC there is a restriction on things with ongoing reserves not getting to outflank and the like.

Would need a source for this... I don't believe that is in the BRB. Losing your special rules would be an absolutely game-changer for deepstrike mishaps, if so. Being put into on-going reserves would mean that now you have to walk that unit of terminators on from your board edge rather than DSing them, rendering them essentially useless. I do not think that this is how it works.

Read outflank, it is specified there in the second paragraph.
I never said DS.

I think it was your use of "and the like". what other methods are there to deploy out of reserves, other than Outflank and Deep strike? Do SW still get the special outflank to come in on the enemy's board edge?

No. It is outflanking but with a better list of things to roll on. It says so in the first line of the rule.

"and the like" means just that, things like outflank and modified outflanks like behind enemy lines.