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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh




Wow freekin amazing scratch builds, inspiring!
   
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General




We'll find out soon enough eh.

Man, this is incredible stuff. Can I ask, do you use any special tools beyond the usual? I attempted to build a Rhino based on the Patoroch templates once with my standard hobby knife, mini saw, and selection of files and it was a complete disaster zone. I suspect I might just be garbage at working plasticard, but I thought the same about sculpting until I got clayshapers and improved immediately so I'm hoping there's a similar "shortcut" I've been missing here too

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

 Yodhrin wrote:
Man, this is incredible stuff. Can I ask, do you use any special tools beyond the usual? I attempted to build a Rhino based on the Patoroch templates once with my standard hobby knife, mini saw, and selection of files and it was a complete disaster zone. I suspect I might just be garbage at working plasticard, but I thought the same about sculpting until I got clayshapers and improved immediately so I'm hoping there's a similar "shortcut" I've been missing here too


Clayshapers are AMAZING.

Thanks for the praise. These results are just down to patience and practice, really, and learning from Blackadder's threads. The biggest thing I learnt from him was about scoring and snapping vs cutting clean through. You do a cut with low pressure to mark the line, go over it once maybe twice with a little more pressure, do this all round the piece, then carefully flex the plastic and snap it out of the sheet. You might need to cut what I call 'escape lines' into inward corners to help snap sections off. MUCH sharper results if you do this wherever possible. That's the scratch building 'quick fix' tbh, and changed my game.

For the basic box constructions to begin the vehicles I cut the four sides, then reinforce the corners with sections of square tube section styrene. Simpler and stronger than cutting brackets, as you get a long stable contact point not a thin edge. That's Top Tip Number 2. Shout if pics of this would help!

Files suck. Buy emery boards (see below). I buy more nail art supplies than my girlfriend!

Kit list:

KNIFE - I use a snapoff blade knife, so if I feel the cuts getting less easy I snap off a section. They're cheap as chips so no worries churning through blades.
RULER and CUTTING MAT - I have a cork-backed steel ruler and self-healing cutting mat. And a lap tray nicked from the kitchen to pop them on so I don't chop my legs when I 'Netflix and chop'.
EMERY BOARDS - My secret weapon is emery boards. They're useful for dressing the edges after making a piece, sanding and reforming bits, curving corners, sanding down Green Stuff, etc. Largely use them instead of sandpaper.
GLUE - I use Revel polstyrene cement/plastic glue with the needle-style applicator. Gorilla Gel Super Glue when needed. Gorilla two-part epoxy for special occasions.
DRILL - I use a pin vise to drill out any circles, and also to create things like the vent slitss in the Spartan engine - drill two holes at ends of the vent, cut lines between them, voila.
SPRAY - I have a can of 3M Spray Mount that I use to affix the printed plans to the plasticard. I used to just attach a sheet to a sheet and cut, but now my offcuts pile has grown somewhat I'm being more frugal, and cutting the templates into sections first so as to minimise wastage/maximise offcut use. I still may have to make a Gargant from the massive pile of Plasticard bits I've amassed!!!
PLASTICARD - 1mm / 40thou stuff from whoever's cheapest on eBay that day. Very occasionally thinner stuff (like Spartan engine). Also a bundle of cheapo eBay Chinese styrene rods/struts regularly comes in INVALUABLE for shortcuts, detailing and structuring. I'll try and do a full WIP on my next build to show some simple tricks when making the early box sections. It was £12.99 and took a few weeks to arrive, but I've bought two and am only just starting to run out of sizes after all these builds, as well as scenery and conversions. MUCH cheaper than the hobby shop Plastruct etc. brands and just as good.
RIVETS - 1mm half round nail art beads from eBay are my rivet go-to.
HOARD CRAP - Save every bottle cap and tube cap you can. They come in handy.


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Started painting in a Ravenwing scheme. A very lazy drybrushed blue/grey edge highlight scheme. Looks ok tbh! The black was a bit patchy so I slathered on some Dark Tone wash to deepen it as well as shade the metals and green recesses. Hope it doesn't pool or go patchy as I've gone to bed now! Excuse bad pics and wet wash glare.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Back on the Spartan horse. Have no monies for tubes so trying another method.

Cutting a LOT of circles to make the wheels. I'll just make the edges and not worry about the middle. Mostly hidden by tracks, and if not no biggie. Wishing I'd boxed the middle of the tracks now though.





I'm cutting them out roughly, using curved nail scissors to cut into circles, then sanding the edges with emery board (started with sandpaper but it was too coarse).

Each track has 30 small and 4 big circles to cut out!!! One done, one to go.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in ar
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





By the foot of the Andes

Awesome builds, and at an industrial speed to boot!

 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Thanks! Speed has plummeted as I'm doing tracks. I see why people make one and cast them...

Tracks annoying me so took a break and did some riveting and vent detailing. Before and after...

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in gb
Omnious Orc Shaman





A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

Excellent stuff and invaluable advice for those who wish to dip their toes in scratchbuilding with plasticard...

   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Hope it's helpful, Ruglud! Let me know how you get on.

I've hit a snag when cutting tracks... without the wheels being a rod across the track unit, you can see through the links too much. I think I'll need to add a second layer of plasticard to reduce that somewhat. More circle cutting, yay!

The worst thing is, this isn't even done and I'm looking at what to make next... maybe a simple Rhino?

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Big update!



Ran out of rivets so I've ordered some more. It's around this stage of the build you REALLY notice all the not true, off-centre, ever-so-slightly misaligned bits. Time to patch over some, not worry about others, and just get this done!

Twin heavy Flamer constructed on a magnetised base so I can build other options at a later date. For now the idea of 2D6 auto hits is too funny not to have heavy flamers.



Sponson structure built. Circular base is magnetise to the hull so it removable for transport, and allows rotation of the sponson too. You can also see the beginning of the Nurgle front door. More on that in later updates.



Making lascannons x8 = tedious. Still need to detail the sides. I glued them so that the barrel fun of the gun below sticks to the gun above for strength.



Lascannons installed, and demonstrating the range of motion possible thanks to the pivot mount and magnetised attachment.



And finally a test for together. The sponsons REALLY increase its presence and sheer size!

Edit: evening session... did a door icon. Nerve-wracking cutting such tiny bits out.



Edit edit: both done!

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in us
Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant






Stuff is Awesome and I love the plasticard work!

Hydra Dominatus

World Wide War Winner  
   
Made in nl
Stone Bonkers Fabricator General




We'll find out soon enough eh.



Thanks chief that's really helpful. Now I just have to figure out how to re-scale the templates for a Rhino to fit the truescale dimensions I worked out Time to scout ebay for some emery boards.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Thanks Ghostmaker!

@Yodhrin - the files can be edited and rescaled in a vector graphics package. If you don't have Illustrator then Inkscape is a great free alternative (it's what I use). The only downside to Inkscape is having to open each page one at a time. Drop me a PM, might be able to do it for you if you don't have the right software/knowhow.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Raging Ravener





I haven't seen a Scratch thread this cool since the old WiP forum- Great job!

Do you still have your plans for the Taurox? I've been looking for an alternative to GWs model and yours is perfect.
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

 Eddtheman wrote:
I haven't seen a Scratch thread this cool since the old WiP forum- Great job!

Do you still have your plans for the Taurox? I've been looking for an alternative to GWs model and yours is perfect.


Sure do, want me to clean it up and post it? You'll have to figure some bits out from the photos as the back was freestyled when it turned out the wheels were too big, and the grille is also freestyled!

I might make a second to cast up at some point.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Raging Ravener





 JohnnyHell wrote:
 Eddtheman wrote:
I haven't seen a Scratch thread this cool since the old WiP forum- Great job!

Do you still have your plans for the Taurox? I've been looking for an alternative to GWs model and yours is perfect.


Sure do, want me to clean it up and post it? You'll have to figure some bits out from the photos as the back was freestyled when it turned out the wheels were too big, and the grille is also freestyled!

I might make a second to cast up at some point.


Yeah If you could post those I'd really appreciate it. No worries on having to figure out some bits on my own- I usually change up parts of a template to suit my needs. I've starpted casting models once I get one finished- Its usually much faster and more consistent and occasionally someone buys one from you .



If I may offer some CC on the lascannons- Yours look fantastic but they're missing the coils at the back of the barrels. Not saying that you should change them, but for future projects I have an easy way to make those. I found some plasticard that was shaped like corrugated aluminum and cut it into strips of 3-4 ridges. I wrapped these around the smaller tube of the lascannon barrel and bracketed it with a the larger diameter tube. It does a pretty good job of mimicking the coils on the back of the gun.

Here's a few pics
http://imgur.com/a/Dxvgs
   
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Using Inks and Washes





Edinburgh

Good lord you work fast. More fantastic stuff.
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

 Eddtheman wrote:


Snip snip

...

If I may offer some CC on the lascannons- Yours look fantastic but they're missing the coils at the back of the barrels. Not saying that you should change them, but for future projects I have an easy way to make those. I found some plasticard that was shaped like corrugated aluminum and cut it into strips of 3-4 ridges. I wrapped these around the smaller tube of the lascannon barrel and bracketed it with a the larger diameter tube. It does a pretty good job of mimicking the coils on the back of the gun.

Here's a few pics
http://imgur.com/a/Dxvgs


That looks AMAZING! Need to find some of that sheet!


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Not a dramatic update tonight, but I've finished most of the detailing and riveting. Just the sponsons left to detail/rivet and the tracks to do.

I noticed from FW pictures that there's a little inner shield at front of the sponsons that didn't seem to be in the Patoroch plans, or I lost the paper templates when trimming others out, unsure which. I freestyled some from offcuts and super glued them on. You can see it just peeping out in the bottom right pic.

I also treated myself to some 3mm half round nail beads, and used them for the targeter lenses as well as a couple of details on the tank.



Busy day tomorrow but I may try and break the back of the tracks on Thursday. AND I've had a brainwave re: the ribbed detail on the Lascannons. If I roll out some Green Stuff into a thin sheet, then press a plate from my Tentacle Maker into it, I'll get a flexible sheet of ribbed detail when cured. Trim it up and superglue it on. Will give it a go!

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

I caved and bought some Plastruct rods at a model shop to finish this. Also some half round rods to make track fabrication simpler.

After doing the axles I took the plunge and installed one track. Minimal bodging required to get it to line up. The join is hidden on the bottom and one at the back. Both will be hidden when I make the hinges.



Wow I didn't notice how out of focus that top pic is! Currently deciding if I can be arsed with double-thickness for the tracks. May end up looking rough as all the manual cuts align/misalign. Think I may leave it at single thick. Thoughts?

Here are the 'hinges' just laid on top as a test:



Edit: eh, couldn't wait. Added the hinges. Calling this side DONE!




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Aaaaand here... we... go!

97% done, just the lascannons to finish, vents on top to Green Stuff and a couple of gap fills to do. Mostly the design doesn't need filling. Oh, and the Nurgle doors/weapons set.















And showing off the range of sponson articulation. The targeter pulls up and is connected to a rod, like a pin down through the lascannons, into a clip underneath. Will mean I can build alternate guns if I want to.



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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

I need help. That isn't even 100% done and I've spent four hours on this today...



I chose the Deimos Rhino because why make a standard one? Also it's only 3 sheets of parts, so less once I discard parts I'll replace with tubing, and when I use offcuts for small pieces. I've used all cut sheets so far, no pristine ones started, and the bulk is done. You can see errors happening here. I glued on the vision slits then had to slice them off and reposition higher so as to be flush with the upper hull plate (that I hadn't yet added). Annoying.



I've also wasted time cutting the circular door hole, as there's another layer to go on top! D'oh! Maybe I can work it in and create some depth? Oooh, yes... I'll layer the two circles and chamfer the edges so it looks thick and sturdy. Plan.

Now I need to stop prevaricating and tidy the house. Here's how she looks just now:



I was worried it wouldn't be cool enough as a Rhino, but I just wanted one over a Razorback for some reason. Will likely make one of those at a later date now I know how achievable this build is. If I carried on it would be done by dinner time.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Halandri

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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

nareik wrote:
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Hehe thanks... much more to come ;-)




Boring update: I roughly sorted my plasticard offcuts from my various builds. Not fully sorted yet but lumped into useful bits, odd-shaped, tubes and rods, long strips and tiny bits. More to do later but calm has been mostly restored. I'll be keeping them in the big box; it's a useful working/dumping space.

I have two and a half full sheets left, plus a million bits. I might have a go at redrawing the old official GW Dreadnought Drop Pod plans a little bit... add eagle heads to the top, wing details lower down, etc. Aquila Pattern Drop Pods. If I change the pattern and make it my design I should be able to cast them up. Never tried casting. Scary!

Or I might just smash out more Rhino-based things. A modular one for Razorback/Whirlwind/Predator should be possible.

I still have a hankering to make something HUGE too. So many choices!

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in ch
Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!





Holy Terra.

Could you do a tutorial on how to build these things? I'd love to scratch build something, but I have no idea where to start.

   
Made in ca
Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot






Wow, just fething wow.... Fantastic work on the Spartan and everything else.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Nottingham

Very impressive building work there!

Have a look at my P&M blog - currently working on Sons of Horus

Have a look at my 3d Printed Mierce Miniatures

Previous projects
30k Iron Warriors (11k+)
Full first company Crimson Fists
Zone Mortalis (unfinished)
Classic high elf bloodbowl team 
   
Made in gb
Omnious Orc Shaman





A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

First class, top notch work mate. Wish I could work at your speed and still maintain the intricate detailing

   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Could you do a tutorial on how to build these things? I'd love to scratch build something, but I have no idea where to start.


Sure, I think I might! Will be fun to do. Pics or video?

Also what kind of thing would be a good subject?


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FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:Wow, just fething wow.... Fantastic work on the Spartan and everything else.


JamesY wrote:Very impressive building work there!


Ruglud wrote:First class, top notch work mate. Wish I could work at your speed and still maintain the intricate detailing


FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:Wow, just fething wow.... Fantastic work on the Spartan and everything else.


Thank you all! Appreciated.

Ruglud, it's not so much speed as 'not much else to do'. Design work has been hard to come by and I've been filling my days with builds.

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 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in ch
Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!





Holy Terra.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Could you do a tutorial on how to build these things? I'd love to scratch build something, but I have no idea where to start.


Sure, I think I might! Will be fun to do. Pics or video?

Also what kind of thing would be a good subject?



Either one. I prefer pics but if you want to do a video thats fine. As for models, something small like a rapier would be good.

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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Ooh Rapier, nice idea. Are there still rules for Guard crew as well as Marines? If so it can do double duty for two of my armies.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in ch
Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!





Holy Terra.

Im pretty sure there are, but AFAIK they don't have access to the laser destroyer variant, or else that variant is so terrible its not worth taking. So a quad launcher would probably be best.

   
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Cardiff

Ok, from my Indexes and BattleScribe it seems Guard can have the Laser Destroyer only, Marines can have Quad Heavy Bolter, Laser Destroyer or Quad Launcher.

I've found the PDF and it's a fiddly bugger of a model! May do some simplifying before I start. There are definitely shortcuts we can take. Small builds can show up errors and misalignments more obviously, so precision practise will be the order of the day. I'll make at least two at the same time I think for Rule Of Two. Three if I can be bothered!

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
 
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