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I don't hate angry canines on the table. I'd borrow a Wiener and ...

But this whole concept of large kits, preferrably some sort of monster in fantasy and mirroring it to 40k isn't my favorite dream of the future.

 1hadhq wrote:
I don't hate angry canines on the table. I'd borrow a Wiener and ...

But this whole concept of large kits, preferrably some sort of monster in fantasy and mirroring it to 40k isn't my favorite dream of the future.

Why not just ask your friends to play lists without the huge models? Or is it WAAC in your part of Bavaria?

 JB wrote:

 1hadhq wrote:
I don't hate angry canines on the table. I'd borrow a Wiener and ...

But this whole concept of large kits, preferrably some sort of monster in fantasy and mirroring it to 40k isn't my favorite dream of the future.

Why not just ask your friends to play lists without the huge models? Or is it WAAC in your part of Bavaria?

We don't have enough players to have WAAC ones. Maybe we have but I didn't meet them..

What I was trying to say is: to include mythical monsters in fantasy is ok, to add a toyish looking monster sized "thing" to 40k is not.
GW got it half decent with Tau, but suits are their theme and an enlarged one fits. An enlarged Wolf however is closer to the nemesis dreadknight.

If we have to have larger kits, where is my T-Hawk?

 pretre wrote:
From Faeit212:

via an Anonymous Source wrote:

Wolves early / middle 2014, Inquisition fall / end 2014, Blood Angels fall / end 2015.
Not many releases for Wolves, just specific flyer variants.
Finecast big predator wolf.
Wulven units included.
They also get almost all Marine releases till then, apart of flyers.
Inquisition all three ordos, two different armies (grey knights and sororitas). Inquisitors can replace IG HQs.
Blood Angels on early re-design.

Did you finally send Natfka an anonymous email to check out whether he indeed posts everything?

Anyway, if an anonymous email contradicts Hastings, I rather believe Hastings.

Lol I really need to do that.

Anymore rumors about the "trait system" being re-introduced into the SM 'dex? I saw the early rumor part in the first part of this thread, and i read the 4th edition codex and saw the traits, is that more/less what might get put into the codex, with certain changes?

I kinda want that Knight thing.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I kinda want that Knight thing.

I think it maybe more along the lines of a regular marines dreadknight. The logic behind this would follow the same argument as C:SM and BT getting the Storm raven, "Ok so GK have a(n) <insert exclusive set here>, but SM and BT. Oh, I know, lets it to them too, saying that the bureaucracy finally caught up to equip everyone else." Not saying this is gospel, but applying a pattern GW used already.

And, heres to hoping my Blood Ravens get some more air time with a trait in the 6th edition dex like in 4th, so people remember them and remind Relic to get their act in gear and makes DoW 3 already (Im actually curious about CoH 2, but am saving up for BF4).

I was under the impression it was going to be this
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight
But all i care about is the Codex for my SM and maybe one more goody.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I was under the impression it was going to be this
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight
But all i care about is the Codex for my SM and maybe one more goody.

Saw the 40k, non-epic scale picture, and now agree, can't wait.

Hopefully they lower the cost of the vanguard vets' upgrades a little, and add in the traits system. I love what they are doing with the new codices in hardback, and I want a Bloody Magpie on the cover: lets give Relic+GWs pet chapter get some limelight on tabletop.

It will be ultramarines, it always is ultramarines.
Now, this is from a text from my friend, I do not know where he got it, so grain of salt.
Supposedly it is Kelly or vetock writing it.

 Sasori wrote:
I beleive none of this.

I'm inclined to to agree.


I'd be really interested in a Codex: Inquistion though. I do love my Ordo Xenos.

 Sasori wrote:

 pretre wrote:
From Faeit212:

via an Anonymous Source wrote:

Wolves early / middle 2014, Inquisition fall / end 2014, Blood Angels fall / end 2015.
Not many releases for Wolves, just specific flyer variants.
Finecast big predator wolf.
Wulven units included.
They also get almost all Marine releases till then, apart of flyers.
Inquisition all three ordos, two different armies (grey knights and sororitas). Inquisitors can replace IG HQs.
Blood Angels on early re-design.

I beleive none of this.

A desperate bid to save the SoB army???

I'll believe plastic Hydras when I see them. They were rumored to come out when IG got their second wave with the new Chimera and Leman Russ kits, sometime during the ever-elusive "Summer of Fliers" and again with the launch of 6th ed. They, along with plastic Stormtroopers, are something I don't plan on seeing until IG get a new codex.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I'll believe plastic Hydras when I see them. They were rumored to come out when IG got their second wave with the new Chimera and Leman Russ kits, sometime during the ever-elusive "Summer of Fliers" and again with the launch of 6th ed. They, along with plastic Stormtroopers, are something I don't plan on seeing until IG get a new codex.

Plastic storm troopers would be nice! maybe make it easier to get multiple special weapons so I dont go broke trying to get multiple plasma and melta guns lol. Hydras would be cool but I think they need to be a little cheaper for how they are this edition. I know Guard doesnt exactly need a new codex but some things could be fixed, as well as a ton of stuff needs plastic models.

 1hadhq wrote:

 JB wrote:

 1hadhq wrote:
I don't hate angry canines on the table. I'd borrow a Wiener and ...

But this whole concept of large kits, preferrably some sort of monster in fantasy and mirroring it to 40k isn't my favorite dream of the future.

Why not just ask your friends to play lists without the huge models? Or is it WAAC in your part of Bavaria?

We don't have enough players to have WAAC ones. Maybe we have but I didn't meet them..

What I was trying to say is: to include mythical monsters in fantasy is ok, to add a toyish looking monster sized "thing" to 40k is not.
GW got it half decent with Tau, but suits are their theme and an enlarged one fits. An enlarged Wolf however is closer to the nemesis dreadknight.

If we have to have larger kits, where is my T-Hawk?

Big kits suitability depend entirely on the army. As you said, it worked with Tau and a big suit. I doubt you'll find many Tyranid players complaining about the Tervigon, Trygon or new Flyrants sizes - though maybe the aesthetics of the model (I'm not a fan of the Trygon model, and wasn't when Forgeworld did it first). Orks would definitely fit, a large junkmech - look at the FW megadred.

But Imperial armies it starts to get a bit absurd. The Dreadknight is the perfect example of a large kit NOT fitting an army.

ace101 wrote:and I want a Bloody Magpie on the cover: lets give Relic+GWs pet chapter get some limelight on tabletop.

sure?
I'd love to have real Raven there, Raven Guard. Easiest Cover ever.

-Loki- wrote:

Big kits suitability depend entirely on the army. As you said, it worked with Tau and a big suit. I doubt you'll find many Tyranid players complaining about the Tervigon, Trygon or new Flyrants sizes - though maybe the aesthetics of the model (I'm not a fan of the Trygon model, and wasn't when Forgeworld did it first). Orks would definitely fit, a large junkmech - look at the FW megadred.

But Imperial armies it starts to get a bit absurd. The Dreadknight is the perfect example of a large kit NOT fitting an army.

Agreed.

Orks have 2 options: mek build walkers or squig based creatures.
Eldar ? Have Avatars and wraithlords. Larger wraithbone construct maybe? . A saurian with an exodite on top could happen.too..
humans? Knights of the mechanicum could bleed peoples wallets dry, where another dreadknight is a sign they lost their grasp of the aestethics.

 Davespil wrote:
I do hope the sisters get a new codex, and the pace they're tossing them out they'll have to.

They'll find an excuse. they always do.

Yeah, they will probably do Codex Star Leopards due to.their ancient and interesting back ground.

Or Codex: Squats.

Now if you'll excuse me, I believe I need to hide from the barrage of groans.

Codex: Cat People. The Furies Of Death!!

I heard Fishmen we're out before Cat people.

 1hadhq wrote:
Orks have 2 options: mek build walkers or squig based creatures.
Eldar ? Have Avatars and wraithlords. Larger wraithbone construct maybe? . A saurian with an exodite on top could happen.too..
humans? Knights of the mechanicum could bleed peoples wallets dry, where another dreadknight is a sign they lost their grasp of the aestethics.

I don't think Avatars can stand to get too much bigger. A larger Wraith construct is a possibility, but even that starts to move into the realms of absurdity if it is still Spirit Stone driven. What you do have have available is the old Knight Titan from Epic. Fluff has them as mainly an Exodite feature, but either including Exodite fluff or extending them to Craftworld fluff would hardly be a stretch. A modern version would just be halfway between a Wraithlord and a Titan. If you are going to include any Exodites at all, why not have both Knight Titans and Craftworld "Dragon" Riders. They were in the 2nd Ed codex, after all

Plastic stormtroopers and veterans? Dreamforge.

Plastic Knights and Big thingies for the Imperium on a large base? Dreamforge.

There, problem solved, and at a fraction of the cost.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Plastic stormtroopers and veterans? Dreamforge.

Plastic Knights and Big thingies for the Imperium on a large base? Dreamforge.

There, problem solved, and at a fraction of the cost.

I'm sorry... what? Speaking from Australian prices, the oval base large models sit in the $90au-$96au bracket. The Dreamforge mechs are $150au (I know, because my FLGS has a pile of them on display, and I was shocked when I saw the cost compared to the size, which is only slightly larger than the GW large oval base kits). I don't see how nearly double the cost translates to a fraction of the cost.

So when do you guys think Orks will be done?

My guess is not until 2015 Summertime.

That's fine buy me. I should have most if not all of my ork stuff that want before their released so it won't hurt too bad when its bend over time

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/mechanicus-adeptus.html#more

a source that wants to remain anonymous wrote:
Mechanicus:
starting late 2014 early 2015.
"Pre-releases" starting early 2014 with finecast Servitors, plastic Turrets, LR Medusa, used already by other armies.
White Dwarf historical propaganda on Mars, titan variants etc.
Starting release based on only two huge plastic kits, around 55GBP each:
- Knight "Titan" (standard paladin, scout lancer + variants, many weapons).
- Knight "Lord" (very heavy crusader, support +, character baron blink).
Each Knighthold can have 3-4 knights at 1250 pts.
Depending on sales and demand, more smaller Ad Mech will be released starting middle 2016.

"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."

To re-quote myself from earlier in this thread:

Just Dave wrote:How much salt do we apply to an anonymous Faeit rumour for releases a year+ away?

Edit, to clarify it's rhetorical, Kan.

 pretre wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/mechanicus-adeptus.html#more

a source that wants to remain anonymous wrote:
Mechanicus:
starting late 2014 early 2015.
"Pre-releases" starting early 2014 with finecast Servitors, plastic Turrets, LR Medusa, used already by other armies.
White Dwarf historical propaganda on Mars, titan variants etc.
Starting release based on only two huge plastic kits, around 55GBP each:
- Knight "Titan" (standard paladin, scout lancer + variants, many weapons).
- Knight "Lord" (very heavy crusader, support +, character baron blink).
Each Knighthold can have 3-4 knights at 1250 pts.
Depending on sales and demand, more smaller Ad Mech will be released starting middle 2016.

"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."

Seconded. it's like crap is just spewing out from there.