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a few questions: 1. why didnt you guys call it dreadzone? it woulda fit right in with dread ball! 2. will he plague be a mix of all races? 3. how many models are we talking per side? i'd like to be able to build small 30 man armies if possible.



[–]manticgames[S] 1 point 3 minutes ago

Hello! 1) We wanted it to be a bit different. (Hasn't stopped me constantly saying "Dreadzone" and correcting myself, mind!) Also, "Deadzone" is a term used in the background that's already been established. 2) So far the Plague are mostly human-based, but the more we make through Kickstarter, the more likely it is that they won't be the only ones. We have some ideas... 3) 30 is probably more than you'd use in a standard game - it's generally around 10 per side. That said, you might want to build a bigger force so you have more options.

I don't have a reddit account: Can someone ask if the models will be poseable/swappable multipart models, or will the models be unique sculpts that can't be swapped with parts of the other models without cutting/trimming/pinning?


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Earth Dragon wrote:
My account is spazzing. Someone ask about gridless rules and larger then 2 x 2 games in ya can please!

judgedoug 1 point 46 minutes ago

Intrigued by the grid movement/los/shooting/etc - can you expand upon it in a few sentences?

Also, are there grid-less rules and/or rules for larger than 2x2 games?

[–]manticgames[S] 1 point 2 minutes ago

Basically, the movement and shooting rules are simplified and abstracted by way of the grid. Models move a set number of spaces in a turn - usually one, but modifiable with action cards etc.

We'll be putting up some gameplay videos in the first few days of the campaign that will explain how it all works way better than I can!

Currently the game is entirely set within the grid, but depending on the level of support we get, anything is possible...

Hope this answers your question

just asked them

Hi Triszin if you don't mind asking about the terrain. Did we see all of the panel designs and terrain elements at salute? if these are hard plastic do they come on a sprue frame and how many panels are there likely to be on a frame?

Thanks.

EDIT thanks for posting it Triszin hopefully Mantic are still online.

from darkPrince010 on dakkadakka: I don't have a reddit account: Can someone ask if the models will be poseable/swappable multipart models, or will the models be unique sculpts that can't be swapped with parts of the other models without cutting/trimming/pinning?

[–]manticgames[S] 1 point 2 minutes ago

First up, thanks for reposting these from dakka! I spotted the thread over there, but I'm only human

The current plan is for the models to be made of our standard "resin plastic / sprueless plastic", the same as DreadBall models. That means they're designed in one pose, but will generally require assembly. Of course, stretch goals being what they are, other options might become possible. It's going to be a wild and crazy month.



from DaveC on dakkadakka:

Did we see all of the panel designs and terrain elements at salute? if these are hard plastic do they come on a sprue frame and how many panels are there likely to be on a frame?


[–]manticgames[S] 1 point 49 seconds ago

It's tricky to answer this level of detail at the current stage - we've got prototypes made (which were the ones that were at Salute) but we're still working out how they'll fit onto the sprue. But yes, they will be hard plastic on a sprue.

Thanks!

I have to say, this makes me notably less enthused. I'll probably still be pledging for it, but I'm hoping that one of their early stretch goals is to make them ball-and-socket poseable models, instead of static slot-together monoposes. Otherwise without heavy modeling on my part my warband/gang-equivalent will look just like the others, barring paintjob. :(

On the other hand I hate blunt multiposed models and prefer great monoposed models.

its really in the eye of the beholder, you can't have everybody satisfied.

i don't expect to see plastic multi part kits for warpath until the warpath kickstarter which i will assume will be next year this time-ish? i however cannot wait for tomorrow, i will be buying lots.

Triszin wrote:
i don't expect to see plastic multi part kits for warpath until the warpath kickstarter which i will assume will be next year this time-ish? i however cannot wait for tomorrow, i will be buying lots.

Yes, Warpath Kickstarter is likely to be a year from now and will feature hard plastic kits.

Depending on the rules, this makes WYSIWYG gameplay much easier. I probably wouldn't like dreadball at all if people could pose their own models. Not being able to tell with a 4 second visual sweep what everything is on the board including the bench and sin bin would not only be annoying, but would really slow the game down. If the class system is attempting to recapture that same level of "I understand what that guy is generally capable of" at a quick glance, then I will be okay with, and actually prefer, fixed posed models.

I stopped playing Necromunda with guys who had little integrity for WYSIWYG ever since a juve with a dagger and stub gun charged me, and supposedly it was his leader with a power axe and plasma pistol........I don't think so. Get a new model or GTFO. Guy didn't even bother to say anything beforehand.

I think a lot of things that people have been mentioning have a very likely chance to show up as stretch goals, especially if Mantic is asked directly about it.

They've already alluded to gridless rules showing up down the road, commented that poseable models could be likely, and other races just may end up getting infected.

Infected teratons -> space kaiju!

If we end up with some rubble pieces on a sprue (demolishing buildings rules?) and some dreadnought equivalents to combat the big spikey nemesis dudes I'll be in seventh heaven!

There's a good chance this could be Mantic's biggest Kickstarter yet.

For posable models I don't mean everything needs to come in the LEGO kit of parts you get for GW troops, but rather the "torso and one arm" plus posable other arm and head thing they had for the KoW plastics. That way there can be a bit of variety in their stance, especially since they aren't going to be ranked up to hide uniform poses.

Heath draws a mean Kaiju, so I think infected Teratons could be pretty awesome.

 darkPrince010 wrote:
For posable models I don't mean everything needs to come in the LEGO kit of parts you get for GW troops, but rather the "torso and one arm" plus posable other arm and head thing they had for the KoW plastics. That way there can be a bit of variety in their stance, especially since they aren't going to be ranked up to hide uniform poses.

That's tricky, but can definitely produce nice models if done right.

I was thinking infected nameless's. now a combine a nameless and a teratron that is infected... mother of god..

Triszin wrote:
I was thinking infected nameless's. now a combine a nameless and a teratron that is infected... mother of god..

Oh man do I want one of those

I'd love to see Teratons make it into this game early on...

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd love to see Teratons make it into this game early on...

You'll be happy.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd love to see Teratons make it into this game early on...

You'll be happy.

Do a little dance!!

Make a little love!!

Get down tonight!!

Get down tonight!!

Just the sheer fact those Dreadball Teratons look so sweet, I'll give the game a go just to play them even though I'm not nearly as excited about the rules. Good move Mantic!!

Actually the more I think about it the more I am interested in a sci-fi boardgame like this. A lot of my gaming group does not have time or money to spend on giant armies or big wargames, but they have no problem with a mordheim or dreadball team. Deadzone could be perfect, especially if it's in the hour-or-less category. About half of my gaming group pretty much only plays boardgames so this may be a way to get both of boardgamers and minis gamers to play games together.

16 hours til launch. Got an alarm set for 0210 in the morning. Hopefully they are right on time so I can get my happy hide back to bed afterwards.

Well I hope this is more than a UGOIGO board game with miniatures, I am definately going to support this as I believe in Mantic, even as I contiue working on my KOW army. I like the looks so far, will be dissapointed in static minatures, and limted single scenario game play. Hope the input from backers will open this up to be a dynamic game

I think I've resigned myself to not getting an early bird at this point. It just isn't happening. Hasn't happened on any of the big ticket mini juggernauts we've had plowing through the tabletop section of Kickstarter for the past few months.

Looking forward to this has been the only thing I've been excited about his week. Kind of sad. My free time on the computer has been dulled somewhat since Myth ended, so I'm going to need a bit of a pickmeup.

Hopefully there are enough "Early Birds" to accommodate the world wide crush they'll be experiencing.

I was hoping people would start to drop the EB non-sense as they might get more backers the first week and avoid folks pouting about missing $10 off so they refuse to pledge.

But then again, we are in the age of entitlement and they'll loose other pledges from folks pouting about there being no EB specials.

Damned if you do.....

Yeah, I don't get the rage and bile that seems to seep out of people when they aren't able to save a whopping ten units of whatever currency they wheel and deal in.

Plus there always seem to be a few spots open and close over the course of a campaign. If you're that butthurt over not saving a bit (that most likely will get spent on the Kickstarter anyway) watch the backer amounts like a hawk like the rest of us poor plebs do.

If not saving $10 means I get a few more hours of needed sleep, I can handle not saving $10...

Well Said Capt Jake, I am on a 15 day stint with 12 hr days, I need my sleep, on the other had the overtime will provide me with much $$$ for this kick starter and the All Quiet on the Martian Front KS....

 CptJake wrote:
If not saving $10 means I get a few more hours of needed sleep, I can handle not saving $10...

Good point!

And once you have kids, that sleep is worth even more!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Yeah, I don't get the rage and bile that seems to seep out of people when they aren't able to save a whopping ten units of whatever currency they wheel and deal in.

I think I can understand it. Americans have very tight budgets right now, and almost no chance of making an early bird. Now, imagine we hit our budget limits when the Infected Nameless Teraton add-on is announced. And it's $10.

And that's how internet grudges are born.

(I'm pretty much resigned to missing out on the EB and just adding add ons when the wave 2 or wave 3 pledge manager comes out.)