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I think it has been fairly well established at this point that most of what Kicktraq projects is in fact quite worthless.

Still, this one is doing very well indeed - and they've still got a good 9 or 10 hours of Prime USA Time to go!

I wonder when we will actually start to see the "real" stretch goals then? So far we are just unlocking stuff that has already been produced (apparently, I do want to see some actual rebel sculpts). With the enforcers now being digital sculpts I can see alternate poses being a goal for sure. Someone mentioned walkers a few pages back, that would be an insta-buy for me, assuming that they would be purchasable add-ons that is..

 AlexHolker wrote:

 IceSword wrote:
Tripling their initial investment requirement in a single day is a big deal.

No, it's not. They deliberately set the goal as low as they did to make people like you say things like that. That, and so that they could pretend that lowering their prices to Finecast levels was some kind of reward.

I'm gonna say you're being overly skeptical on this:

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/DreadBall/Product/DreadBall-KickOff.html

People act like adding a ref in wasn't a true stretch goal for dreadball, but this box set says otherwise. Their entry point was the true barebones entry point for both this and Dreadball. Now, some of the non-sense spacing on the stretch goals here are a completely different matter and have backing.

You really have to pick and choose your battles and not lawyer every piece of evidence you can conjure up.

Walkers are in the artwork shown in the opening video, as in the "Generation 3" Infected, so they'll be showing up sooner or later.

I'd think they'll be some more terrain stretch goals too, if they're paying attention and are being smart about it - and they are!

And...$150k passed.

 squall018 wrote:
The mawbeast bombers look like they have chainsaws for tongues... I don't even know if thats cool or not, but its there. Really love the rebel drones.

They do, they are Robot mawbeasts.

Like the Plague dogs.

Earth Dragon wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 IceSword wrote:
Tripling their initial investment requirement in a single day is a big deal.

No, it's not. They deliberately set the goal as low as they did to make people like you say things like that. That, and so that they could pretend that lowering their prices to Finecast levels was some kind of reward.

I'm gonna say you're being overly skeptical on this:

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/DreadBall/Product/DreadBall-KickOff.html

People act like adding a ref in wasn't a true stretch goal for dreadball, but this box set says otherwise. Their entry point was the true barebones entry point for both this and Dreadball. Now, some of the non-sense spacing on the stretch goals here are a completely different matter and have backing.

You really have to pick and choose your battles and not lawyer every piece of evidence you can conjure up.

Dreadball kickoff is a real recent release... Regular Dreadball has been out longer than Kickoff...

150k stretch has been hit!

That's the terrain all sorted, with three different plastic sprues making up the buildings, bulkheads, walkways etc. with ladders, crates and containers on the sprue as well to go with them.

 Alpharius wrote:
I think it has been fairly well established at this point that most of what Kicktraq projects is in fact quite worthless.

Still, this one is doing very well indeed - and they've still got a good 9 or 10 hours of Prime USA Time to go!

I'm well aware of that. I still thinks its funny. I'd like to know what it says right before the day rolls.

Not keen on the drones but the two dog type beasties are pretty cool.

Love the drones. I'm a fan of the mawbeasts to but that's mostly cause they'll make good dark mechanicus flesh hounds

I'm in for the Strike level personally. I'm looking forward to them adding forge fathers as that's my favorite faction if they could make them look a little less like their fantasy dwarves with sci-fi guns.

 Alfndrate wrote:

Earth Dragon wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 IceSword wrote:
Tripling their initial investment requirement in a single day is a big deal.

No, it's not. They deliberately set the goal as low as they did to make people like you say things like that. That, and so that they could pretend that lowering their prices to Finecast levels was some kind of reward.

I'm gonna say you're being overly skeptical on this:

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/DreadBall/Product/DreadBall-KickOff.html

People act like adding a ref in wasn't a true stretch goal for dreadball, but this box set says otherwise. Their entry point was the true barebones entry point for both this and Dreadball. Now, some of the non-sense spacing on the stretch goals here are a completely different matter and have backing.

You really have to pick and choose your battles and not lawyer every piece of evidence you can conjure up.

Dreadball kickoff is a real recent release... Regular Dreadball has been out longer than Kickoff...

All I'm pointing out is that Kickoff is what the initial bar of dreadball was set for, so they really did have a rule set in mind for the initial goal, which is where they got flak. If dreadball ended right at the funding mark Kickoff and metal Veermyn and Dwarves is what would have been released to the public.


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4 backers to see if they have a $2 off category. What a hoot

You're right. The old interviews w/ Ronnie showed that Dreadball was going to come with a token for the Ref, and the Ref was a metal fig you could buy separately. The funding did enhance the basic game - ref became plastic and included, teams bumped to 10, etc.

I can use some of my Sedition War Minis here, including the drones, At least until the new rule book comes out

Gitzbitah wrote:

Did anyone else notice the Plague 3rd gen are only wearing pants?

I'm totally painting them blue and calling them Jeanstealers.

Honestly, I didn't like any of the plague, except for the real big one, until now.

I'm painting them all with green skin and navy pants.

 judgedoug wrote:
You're right. The old interviews w/ Ronnie showed that Dreadball was going to come with a token for the Ref, and the Ref was a metal fig you could buy separately. The funding did enhance the basic game - ref became plastic and included, teams bumped to 10, etc.

The problem is that Kickoff still isn't just, "barebones" Dreadball (i.e. if we hadn't hit stretch goal after stretch goal). Kickoff doesn't come with the ref, it doesn't come with the cards, or the roster pad. It also has a different rulebook than regular dreadball. it's literally a starterbox for Dreadball, and honestly, it was being marketed more like a boardgame at AdeptiCon than a "wargame" level of thing. I.e. while it's perfect for starting dreadball, it's not designed to get all of the depth you can get with regular dreadball.

Are there any hints or anything as to when an Alpha of the rules will be available? Because that will be ta major factor of if I just get Scientist level, or if I get anything higher.

Definitely looks cool and I like the Enforcer look as always.

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Are there any hints or anything as to when an Alpha of the rules will be available? Because that will be ta major factor of if I just get Scientist level, or if I get anything higher.

They said they would get an alpha set of the rules out before the end of the kickstarter and some gameplay videos up this weekend. Its some where in the 1000 some comments already on the kickstarter, so I can't find the quotes, but I know i read it.

Mantic on KS wrote:
@Nick Dodds - There will be videos and an alpha set of rules early next week.

Looking forward to seeing both the videos and the alpha rules.

~Eric

One obvious stretch goal is surely a different material for the play surface. Paper sounds a bit fragile.

Guesswork but might we see MDF or plastic boards?

They mentioned in the comments rubber backed cloth. I imagine it'd be kind of like a mousepad.

 Barzam wrote:
They mentioned in the comments rubber backed cloth. I imagine it'd be kind of like a mousepad.

I would like that.

Something just occured to me about the Enforcer Captain - If he had a cigar in his mouth, his pose would actually look pretty good, and give off more of a badass "I'm standing on the charred corpses of the enemy" vibe.

I think I'll be green-stuffing one on to mine.

Eh I dunno Squig his facial expression still looks like he just dropped his icecream sandwich.

So, is Halethorpe just the location of their shell company, or does Mantic actually have an office in the US?

Location of shell company. I'm almost certain.

They have a very small US Office.

I'm fairly sure our office is larger then Mantic's US Office.

That's where the official Mantic US Rep is located, right?

 judgedoug wrote:
That's where the official Mantic US Rep is located, right?

Yeah.