Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - Completed! - $1,216,482 final total.

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**Pacific**

Ronin_eX wrote:
streetsamurai wrote:
Decided to back it for 150$, the price is really good, and the product is orignial and contains no lame space skaven or space dorf. Eager to see the new races, especially the insects, terratons, jedah and nameless. Hopefully they put them in before the aforementionned lame space skaven or space dorf

I hope not, I'm backing this in hopes of awesome space dorfs. And from the sounds of those in the know, I don't think I'll be disappointed.

I too have high hopes for the Forge Fathers! Although, actually the one I like the most from this initial 4 is the marauders. Think the two arms holding the rifle looks ace, and the actual concept/design reminds me a lot of the pre-Brian Nelson Rogue Trader orks.

**Barzam**

So, nobody likes the survivor faction idea?

I for one do like the Forgefathers. Hell, I even like their Sttel Warriors. It's kind of nice to have Dwarves with full armor. I wonder if maybe we'll get some of the specialists, like the Drakkarim in restic?

**recruittons**

Only thing really keeping me out is that I don't want to spend the $150 for all 4 factions, but the $100 level only offers Enforcers and Plague (neither of which I like). If they were to have a $100 level with Marauders and Rebs, I'd be in in a heartbeat.

**Ronin_eX**

Pacific wrote:
Ronin_eX wrote:
streetsamurai wrote:
Decided to back it for 150$, the price is really good, and the product is orignial and contains no lame space skaven or space dorf. Eager to see the new races, especially the insects, terratons, jedah and nameless. Hopefully they put them in before the aforementionned lame space skaven or space dorf

I hope not, I'm backing this in hopes of awesome space dorfs. And from the sounds of those in the know, I don't think I'll be disappointed.

I too have high hopes for the Forge Fathers! Although, actually the one I like the most from this initial 4 is the marauders. Think the two arms holding the rifle looks ace, and the actual concept/design reminds me a lot of the pre-Brian Nelson Rogue Trader orks.

Oh my, yes, those marauders are marvelous. I'm not usually an Ork guy but I am lovingly painting all of them up and I may even end up playing them. Now I'm just stuck on if I want to paint them as a Goff homage or as Bad Moons. They just ooze old-school flavour. If the Forge Fathers never showed up (ancestors forbid) then they would be what I was buying in for.

**JoshInJapan**

recruittons wrote:
Only thing really keeping me out is that I don't want to spend the $150 for all 4 factions, but the $100 level only offers Enforcers and Plague (neither of which I like). If they were to have a $100 level with Marauders and Rebs, I'd be in in a heartbeat.

Send a message asking if you can do this. The Mantic guys have a reputation for being extremely flexible in these regards.

**Black Nexus**

they said they can't swap things out. sounds like there's a core box being made, the logistics would be a nightmare if the cor eproduct was being built in different specifications. More mistakes too...

Easy enough to pick up a scout and an additional faction starter when they are released as add-ons though, if Dreadball is anything to go by all of the individual items like the rulebook will be made available to purchase too.

**recruittons**

True, but then I'm spending more than the $100. The Recon level has 3 terrain sprues, the softcover book, two factions, and some other extras for $100. Two faction starters are $80 by themselves. Seems like I'd probably have to spend more than the Recon level to get a book, 3 terrain sprues, the mat and counters.

Honestly, I might go for a single faction starter and wait for the rest to hit retail. I don't think I can pass up those Marauders

**Bolognesus**

By the level of discount Mantic KSes tend to give once you'd otherwise buy a substantial chunk of the sweet spot level at retail, you might want to reconsider that before the end of the KS

especially if you find the terrain interesting - they're hinting at adding more terrain in future stretches (instead of just replacing as they've done up 'till now...).
TBH that $50 difference is probably going to be less than the difference between buying now and buying retail if you want terrain and some of the extra thingamajiggies

... I do agree a marauders/rebs box would be nice to have as an option

**recruittons**

A valid point, problem is, I'm not sure if I can at all budget $150 for the end of this project. 35 days is actually a couple of days after my birthday and I have plans around that time that will be sucking up substantial amounts of dollars. If I'm lucky, I'll have $150 to spend, because that $50 extra is actually a pretty decent value, even if I don't like most of the Plague and Enforcers.

I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled and see what opportunities present in the next month. Might even hit eBay and start unloading some collectibles. I still have a few Mass Effect and Guild Wars signed lithographs laying around...

**Mad4Minis**

scarletsquig wrote:
^ Yep, the small board size is actually intentional as part of the game design, Jake wanted it to feel claustrophobic and like there's nowhere to hide.

There's loads of pics of the first gen plague up on Remy's blog if anyone wants to take a look:

http://remytremblay.sculpture.over-blog.com/article-plague-lord-deadzone-mantic-117397772.html

Awesome model, I think it looks better in those pics than the painted version does.

Something which is kinda interesting, a quote from the page:

As you know I have made some enforcers few month ago for the warpath range, this times tye'll be tooled in hard plastic, and that's nice.
For this game I've sculpted the big guy for the plague, one of the new faction in the warpath universe.
He's quite big and ugly an will be in restic to insure the best details you could have at the lowest price.
Note that the head on the picture is slightly different of the one you'll have in the box, but only slightly.
And sorry for this horrible English message

I like the sound of that. Mantic said themselves that some hard plastic might be possible if the funding gets high enough, so we could be seeing some Enforcer sprues soon.

Or if it isn't being done through this KS (which will have individualized restic sculpts), then it looks like it'll happen later on as a general non-KS release for Warpath 2.0.

That mini is the only part of the whole game Im interested in.

**Bolognesus**

Hey, it's in the add-ons already - go ahead and pledge away

(I'm sure mantic will have a "shipping for add-ons only" price up before too long - was $5 for Loka, will probably be similar here

**Salacious Greed**

Ok, so can anyone ask Manticore exactly how many sprues it took to make the terrain in the pictures that popped up last week? This would be a good gauge of what the 3 and 5 frames will give us. I'd like to know exactly how many I'm going to need to populate a board....

**Bolognesus**

I believe the KS comments had it pegged at ~9 frames or so. (this assuming you build "full" buildings as opposed to keeping the backs of the buildings off so as to be able to reach inside - that way you'd need less). since they'll probably add a frame or two to the strike team level yet you'd probably be fine with that for what's shown in the pictures by the time this is over and done with

...of course, those of us wishing to populate entire infinity tables might have to reach a wee bit deeper into their wallets...

**scarletsquig**

As a rule of thumb, people have calculated somewhere between 48-60 of the 3x3 terrain tiles to fill a 2x2 space with lots of multi-level terrain that's 1, 2 and 3 storeys high with connecting walkways.

So, that's 8-10 sprues (they each have 6 tiles) per 2x2 board or 48-60 sprues to completely pack a 6x4 board with the terrain.

It's looking quite likely that we'll get another 4 sprues for free with Strike Team, so that's 10 for starters if you're picking up the Strike Team level as well (and it can't hurt to, since that's going to be the best value part of the whole thing).

I'd imagine Mantic are just working out how to offer the sprues as add-ons, probably single sprues, and then a 10-sprue mega pack with a discount as well.

We won't know the price on that until tomorrow when the add-ons are sorted, but I'd estimate that completely jam-packing a 4'x4' Infinity/ Necromunda board should be in the region of $200.

Bolognesus wrote:
Hey, it's in the add-ons already - go ahead and pledge away (I'm sure mantic will have a "shipping for add-ons only" price up before too long - was $5 for Loka, will probably be similar here

They've already added it, it's in the update. If you only want add-ons, shipping is $5, so just pledge for what you want + $5.

**Pacific**

scarletsquig wrote:
As a rule of thumb, people have calculated somewhere between 48-60 of the 3x3 terrain tiles to fill a 2x2 space with lots of multi-level terrain that's 1, 2 and 3 storeys high with connecting walkways.

So, that's 8-10 sprues (they each have 6 tiles) per 2x2 board or 48-60 sprues to completely pack a 6x4 board with the terrain.

It's looking quite likely that we'll get another 4 sprues for free with Strike Team, so that's 10 for starters if you're picking up the Strike Team level as well (and it can't hurt to, since that's going to be the best value part of the whole thing).

I'd imagine Mantic are just working out how to offer the sprues as add-ons, probably single sprues, and then a 10-sprue mega pack with a discount as well.

We won't know the price on that until tomorrow when the add-ons are sorted, but I'd estimate that completely jam-packing a 4'x4' Infinity/ Necromunda board should be in the region of $200.
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Well... (speaking for Infinity at least, and really Necromunda) having a table crammed full of terrain isn't necessary.

But, and again this applies to Infinity, this is going to be something that breaks the 'you must pay at least $25 for a building', almost cartel-like pricing that seems to pervade the whole industry for HDF terrain at present. I think that is the prospect that is really exciting a lot of people.

**PsychoticStorm**

Well what CB did with Bandua was a good move in my opinion, the Q buildings pack 3 for 26 eu is a good price, what mantic will do with their buildings sprue with modularity and pricing will in my opinion further shape the terrain landscape.

**Black Nexus**

definately. working on a 3x3 template is clever beacuse of the amount of different buildings everyone will be able to make.

hope they give away an extra sprue next, seems like a landmark goal for 1/4 million bucks.

**scarletsquig**

Terrain-only pledge (and terrain add-ons) will be going up soon, Mantic just needs to talk a few things over with their factory before they can set a price.

**Eilif**

recruittons wrote:
A valid point, problem is, I'm not sure if I can at all budget $150 for the end of this project. 35 days is actually a couple of days after my birthday and I have plans around that time that will be sucking up substantial amounts of dollars. If I'm lucky, I'll have $150 to spend, because that $50 extra is actually a pretty decent value, even if I don't like most of the Plague and Enforcers.

This was my frustration as well. I was about to zero out my pledge but first I went and asked my gaming club if anyone wanted to split the pledge. I found three guys who each wanted one of the remaining factions (I wanted rebs). Now we're each getting a faction for a bit less than the cost of a "recon" single faction. and we have all the extra game material to divy up also.

Maybe you can find a buddy or three to go in with you.

**gohkm**

Could somebody please point out to me where the shipping costs are stated on the main page? I haven't gotten my new glasses yet, so everything is still mostly a blur.

**PsychoticStorm**

All of the pledge levels for Deadzone have standard shipping included for US and UK packages.

Rest of World: If you live outside of the US or UK, such as Canada, Europe or Australia, please add $5 for standard Royal Mail shipping. If you are ordering an Assault Team Package, please add $10. If you are ordering a Suppression Team package, please add $15, as your parcel will need to be sent by courier (see below) due to the size.

South America and Africa – Courier shipping is mandatory for these continents. Please add $15 for courier shipping.

Courier Shipping – any backer can upgrade their reward to include tracked courier shipping for $15.

Please note - you only need to include one of these levels. For example, if you are in the EU and want courier shipping, you only need to add $15. You do not need to add the $5 as well.

**gohkm**

Ah, thank you. Looks like I'm in for this one, too.

**Eilif**

NAVARRO wrote:
Pacific wrote:

The only thing those old kits had going for them were the price, always thought they were pretty crappy really!

Really?
Well I have all 3 sets and all are awesome... only craked one open and did this with it....
http://s45.photobucket.com/user/NAVARROpt/library/MERCS
If I go wild with the 3 kits I can built endless stuff... the sound of 6 tiles sprues on the Mantic terrain does not sound more versatile than hexagon terrain...

Very nice job with the terrain. I agree that the kits are very nice.

The platformer kit makes nice structures, (as your model shows) but suffers from a wall requiring two pieces (one for each side) so the box makes less terrain than you might think.

The hexagon set does have visible clips, but I think they look just fine when constructed and painted. Here's something I did a few years back. Not my best work, but still pretty good.

I've also cut up alot of the panels to add detail to other models

The Chemical plant is another brilliant kit. You could make alot of neat stand alone 3"x3" pieces with it and it's an absolute gold-mine for adding detail to scratchbuilt and kitbashed models. Chemical plant bits show up on almost all my sci-fi and post apoc terrain.

http://chicagoskirmish.blogspot.com/2012/12/terrain-from-resale-shop-to-battlefield.html

Sum up, on their own, they might not be as impressive as CoD but their flexibility makes them really valuable additions to the collections of terrain builders.

All that said, I'm eagerly awaiting the Deadzone terrain which looks quite nice. My concern is that a 3"x3" box (what a single sprue seems to build) is not big enough to be usefull in other squad based games. Sounds like a building usable outside of the Deadzone game will need at least 2 sprues.

**Triszin**

340 $ from getting the 22k goal. cant wait to see whats next.

**Rolt**

Update: $250,000 – Additional Scenery!

Snipers are in! NEW Stretch Goal: Get more scenery!
Update #7 · Apr 28, 2013 · comment

You guys are the best! That’s tooling for the four Deadzone Specialists secured. Mental stuff!!

The Enforcer Sniper, Marauder Sniper, Alternate 2nd Generation and the mighty Rebs Teraton all locked in!

We’ve now added each to their relevant faction starter meaning Scout ($40) gets 1 extra model, Recon ($100) gets 2 extra models and Strike Team ($150) gets all 4 extra models! Remember these go into the Early Birds too - and in the case of the Assault Team and Suppression Team pledge levels, you get double and treble the number of stretch goal miniatures respectively!

If you want more of these great models, they are now available as extras for you to add-on to your pledge - it's easy to see that you might want more of the Teraton and the Enforcer Sniper!!

And the Plague 2nd Generation from earlier as well:

We know lots of you are holding out for more scenery and we will have scenery add-ons coming but for now, how about we just give you more?

To celebrate this major milestone, we’re giving away a free scenery sprue!

Your pledge levels already contain enough sprues to fill a gaming mat with some buildings and barricades, but we want to give you greater variety and enable you to make more elaborate constructs – so we are throwing in 1 additional scenery sprue into every pledge of Recon ($100) and up!

But what is on a hard plastic scenery sprue I hear you cry?

Well, this is entirely dependent on two things – the success of the campaign and continued negotiation with the toolmaker as to what we can squeeze on. The current talk is around 6 tiles per sprue plus connectors (and we have 2 sprues of different designs in addition to the Accessory Sprue, which features half walls, barricades, ladders, railings, crates, barrels and special connectors.)

This extra sprue will be a combination of wall tiles and some floor tiles, massively increasing the variety you get. You can further customize your constructs using the components from the Accessory Sprue - good times!

Let us know your comments below and please keep spreading the word - the more people who back this project, the better your rewards will get!

Enjoy

**Triszin**

i hope this strecth goal gives addons for terrain sprues.

**scarletsquig**

OP updated, Strike Team pledge is looking like great value already, $232 worth of minis for $150.

If dreadball is any indication, expect around $500 worth of free stuff by the time this is over.

Mantic go huge on the freebies, they are the most generous mini company on KS currently, and don't hold back and do "freebie but only if you buy an add-on" like CMoN does with its kickstarters.

So far only Reaper has managed to beat them on massive value in a Kickstarter, but that might change if they can get hard plastic minis up and running instead of restic.

**Alpharius**

Terrain only and add-ons coming soon?

Get ready for this one to explode!

**Pacific**

Don't know if anyone had posted the pic of these doods from the last update?

I'm finding the concept of the Rebs more and more appealing, have to say!

**streetsamurai**

hopefully the terrain is compatible with the hexagons set, that would enable me to make some pretty awesome construction