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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:27:52
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm guessing this is photoshoped but it gives a good idea of coverage on a 6x4 table
The image is from the latest Mantic newsletter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:29:19
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Really like the look of the rebels! They've definitely got the most 'gang' type feel to them of the stuff we have seen so far.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:So question... Does anyone know if these products come (i'd imagine not....) pre-painted? Or, rather if they come with decals?
I'm just guessing that my efforts to paint on adverts, etc... would look abyssmal. :-p
I've got several of those advert kits, and can confirm as Alphie says they come with little printed designs you can cut out and stick on
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:33:00
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Well I dove in as a Strike Team backer. I blame Alpharius, as always.
I'll probably try to find someone to trade my Rebs Starter for their Marauders Starter so as to double up on the Big Green Machine.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:42:12
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
E. City, NC
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Judging by the average love for the Rebs, that shouldn't be a problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:44:18
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DaveC wrote:I'm guessing this is photoshoped but it gives a good idea of coverage on a 6x4 table
The image is from the latest Mantic newsletter.
Mmmmm... I wonder how many "Battle-zones" that is?
If I could use what is included in a Strike-Force pledge innately, plus a $95 add-on of four more battle-zones, to do all that, I would be very, very impressed. Either way, I have about $70 worth of the Dust modular buildings which also have 3x3 tiles, between all that, maybe I can come up with a table like that
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:44:45
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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I could see the inclusion of a lightly-armed APC or Humvee analogues (not a tank, or even an AFV) used in a scenario situation. Escort the Ark of the Covenant off the table. Rescue the squad after their Blackhawk got shot down in Mogadishu using a couple of Humvees/Trukks/Technicals/jeeps.
As for actual tanks, I don't think it's the right game for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:46:01
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I worked out that board is roughly 150 panels worth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:47:10
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I think it could work well in a specific scenario.. There was an awesome Infinity mission where a team are trying to take out a tank that is parked somewhere (maybe during an occupation or something?) - the tank just has a token guard of infantry, but absolutely kicks ass. The team have to try and disable the tank without being blown to pieces
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:47:18
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Azazelx wrote:
I could see the inclusion of a lightly-armed APC or Humvee analogues (not a tank, or even an AFV) used in a scenario situation. Escort the Ark of the Covenant off the table. Rescue the squad after their Blackhawk got shot down in Mogadishu using a couple of Humvees/Trukks/Technicals/jeeps.
As for actual tanks, I don't think it's the right game for it.
No one ever asked for tanks... Its just a straw-man people keep using as a synonym for "vehicle" because it makes their point best. :-p But I digress... Back to that glorious table...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:48:00
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Mmmmm... I wonder how many "Battle-zones" that is?
If I could use what is included in a Strike-Force pledge innately, plus a $95 add-on of four more battle-zones, to do all that, I would be very, very impressed. Either way, I have about $70 worth of the Dust modular buildings which also have 3x3 tiles, between all that, maybe I can come up with a table like that
I count 204 3x3 building tiles in there that's about 12 Battlezones worth.
6 x 16 tile one storey buildings
3 x 26 tile two storey buildings
3 x 10 tile towers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:48:40
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Compel wrote:I worked out that board is roughly 150 panels worth.
With "floors", etc?
It seems a lot of tiles can be saved by skipping floors you don't plan on using, or back-walls for buildings along the table perimeter.
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:58:24
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I was doing without floors, ish...
With floors, for the 2 storey buildings you're talking more like DaveC's figure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 22:59:52
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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csimian wrote:Ok, time for someone to breakdown the Antenocitis Workshop deals against their website to see if they are bargains or not. I can't do it now, got to pick my son up from daycare
We'll wait for you to do it in your spare time!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 23:01:39
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I tried out of curiosity but most of Antenociti stuff is prerelease so it isn't on the shop yet and there's no prices for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 23:09:54
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Pacific wrote:
I've got several of those advert kits, and can confirm as Alphie says they come with little printed designs you can cut out and stick on
Could you post some pics with figures next to them as scale shots please? Hard/impossible to figure out from the KS pictures. Automatically Appended Next Post: NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: Compel wrote:I worked out that board is roughly 150 panels worth.
With "floors", etc?
It seems a lot of tiles can be saved by skipping floors you don't plan on using, or back-walls for buildings along the table perimeter.
Anyone planning to make their buildings permanent, rather than leaving them modular can easily use textured plasticard for cheap flooring. - Boilerplate/checkplate and/or a square tiled pattern would work perfectly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/10 23:55:26
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Alpharius wrote:They come with the 'adverts' (not sure if they are decals, printout, etc.) - but other than that, they are not pre-painted. They're print-outs, not decals. And you have to cut them out yourself, and making them fit inside that big table scanner thing isn't easy. On the bright side, my big table scanner is fluro purple, thanks to the weird way Antenociti's Workshop always uses brightly coloured resin! I can't reccomend their stuff enough, even if that med-bench thingy is a very hard thing to get to stay together (mixed metal/resin kit).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 00:33:20
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Pro-vehicle people don't seem to realize that in such small skirmish games, things like the Enforcer Styrian armor, First Generation Plague, Teratons, and Ripper suits (and now Hulks) ARE the stand-ins for vehicles. They are the heavy hitters that a faction can bring in to reinforce their regular fighters. The guys that makes your basic trooper say "oh crap" when they round a corner and open fire.
Skirmish games of 5-20 models should be about regular fighters and a couple of their thematic"big guys" rather than a squad supporting a tank that's shooting at point blank range and trying to get through narrow alleyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 00:41:17
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I could see them adding apc's but only way later in the KS when they will essentially be sending stuff out for "season 3" of deadzone with the big tables in mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:08:21
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Forgive me for being a bit thick, but the wording mantic is using on the terrain parts seems a bit confusing.
What is a "battlezone"? How many sprues of tiles go in one Battlezone? Are there 6 tiles per sprue
For instance, I am at Strike Team level now, and I should get 6 building sprues, plus acessories and connectors. Is that one battlezone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:13:00
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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JMMelo wrote:Forgive me for being a bit thick, but the wording mantic is using on the terrain parts seems a bit confusing.
What is a "battlezone"? How many sprues of tiles go in one Battlezone? Are there 6 tiles per sprue
For instance, I am at Strike Team level now, and I should get 6 building sprues, plus acessories and connectors. Is that one battlezone?
Strike team currently has 2 Battle zones. A battle zone is 3 building tile sprues and 1 connector sprue. A building tile sprue should have 6 full Tiles on it depends on the theme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:13:50
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Dakka Veteran
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The Mantic newsletter says that the table was built with what you get in the 'One-click Urban Warfare Bundle' which is indeed 12 battlezones (or $280) of stuff.
It feels like that this stuff is coming out similar to what you'd pay for GW terrain, although I bought my CoD and Planetstrike stuff when they first came out. It has the advantage of being more generic sci-fi, so it works for a wider range of games than a lot of the GW stuff does. It doesn't seem to be a Crazy Mantic Bargain right now though. You could buy 8 CoD buildings for $264US vs what's on that table for $280US.
Right now I'm trying to decide how the Mantic stuff and some MDF terrain I bought into will look side by side. (Okay, that's a bit of a non sequitur. Still doing it though, dangit.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:17:07
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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The CoD buildings are more "half" buildings though, since they're corner ruins and only have one half of 2 walls and no roof.
Mantic are planning a ruins set as well though, so that would be the way to go if you want maximum table coverage since ruins won't take as many tiles to create.
The stock builds they've used suffer from being a bit giant and boxy, I'd probably go with more numerous and smaller buildings with tiered upper floors to make better use of the 3d space, lots of 2-storey stuff, lots of walkways interconnecting everything to really create a proper multi-level gameplay environment.
One of the good things about 2'x2' deadzone games will be the ability to easily cram that space full of lots of really dense, complex 2-3 storey buildings with criss-crossing walkways connecting everything.
I'm tempted to have the landing pad on top of a large building, that would look pretty amazing, especially with a dropship or something on it, and maybe a tower with a walkway leading on to the pad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:34:22
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Been Around the Block
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Alpharius wrote:
I can't reccomend their stuff enough, even if that med-bench thingy is a very hard thing to get to stay together (mixed metal/resin kit).
We've actually re-worked that item especially for Mantic and its now all-resin (and goes together much easier & stronger); indeed we've done re-works on a number of the items to fit in with Deadzone, and a few pieces such as the (Mantic/Deadzone) Weapons Lockers are exclusive to Mantic.
All of the screen images are photo-quality prints on photo-paper, so you just trim to size and glue in place. (For Deadzone there will be game-orientated inserts in place of the "normal" ones you would get directly from us - so again you can view that as exclusive to Mantic.)
In terms of value you would be looking at spending over $200 to get the full-monty ($130 USD) set.
So "Is it worth it?" - well you couldn't get that deal from us...it all still has our quality guarantee (no bubbles or uglies) so there's no drop in quality and if you are outside of the UK you don't get a big postage hit.
I'd buy it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 01:40:21
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Now all I need is a drop ship to go on the landing pad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 02:06:50
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Dakka Veteran
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scarletsquig wrote:The CoD buildings are more "half" buildings though, since they're corner ruins and only have one half of 2 walls and no roof.
That's quite true. Does anyone recall if it's 4 full, 4 half tiles per sprue, or 5 full, 2 half?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 02:09:59
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Antenociti wrote:We've actually re-worked that item especially for Mantic and its now all-resin (and goes together much easier & stronger); indeed we've done re-works on a number of the items to fit in with Deadzone, and a few pieces such as the (Mantic/Deadzone) Weapons Lockers are exclusive to Mantic.
So it's all resin now? That would've been nice, but I have two already so there's not much I can do about it.
Keep using the wild coloured resin though. That stuff is fun!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 02:26:15
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Antenociti wrote: Alpharius wrote:
I can't reccomend their stuff enough, even if that med-bench thingy is a very hard thing to get to stay together (mixed metal/resin kit).
We've actually re-worked that item especially for Mantic and its now all-resin (and goes together much easier & stronger); indeed we've done re-works on a number of the items to fit in with Deadzone, and a few pieces such as the (Mantic/Deadzone) Weapons Lockers are exclusive to Mantic.
All of the screen images are photo-quality prints on photo-paper, so you just trim to size and glue in place. (For Deadzone there will be game-orientated inserts in place of the "normal" ones you would get directly from us - so again you can view that as exclusive to Mantic.)
In terms of value you would be looking at spending over $200 to get the full-monty ($130 USD) set.
So "Is it worth it?" - well you couldn't get that deal from us...it all still has our quality guarantee (no bubbles or uglies) so there's no drop in quality and if you are outside of the UK you don't get a big postage hit.
I'd buy it.
Will the weapons lockers be available after the KS? I could see myself wanting more of those.
Also, have there been talks about using your vehicles in Warpath? <crosses fingers>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 02:36:20
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Antenociti wrote:
So "Is it worth it?" - well you couldn't get that deal from us...it all still has our quality guarantee (no bubbles or uglies) so there's no drop in quality and if you are outside of the UK you don't get a big postage hit.
I'd buy it.
Could we get some scale pictures with those scenery items next to models, please? That's the biggest thing giving me pause on your scenery offers here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 03:43:37
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DaveC wrote:Now all I need is a drop ship to go on the landing pad 
http://www.amazon.com/Avengers-Quinjet-Captain-America-included/dp/B0098C7MVG
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=51546.45
Automatically Appended Next Post: I like how vehicles are handled in Infinity, especially now that Campaign Paradiso is out. They have power armor/light mechs, but anything larger than that is the scenario you're fighting. I'd love to have a chance to put my Pig Iron AFV on the table, or use the Quinjet I have coming in off ebay, but they really should be scenario pieces or just terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 06:09:59
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $415k goal: New specialists $430k goal: +4 free minis.
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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That is a really good idea. I wonder how that GI Joe Retaliation Ghost Hawk would look? Is that your work, Kalamadea? If so, how long did it take to do that? Did you disassemble it before painting, or just go at it as is with spray paint?
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