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I've never had a go with Kickstarter but this one does attract me. Couple of dumb questions - I realise the product wont appear until December but when does the money get taken out for my pledge ? When the Kickstarter finishes can I still add to it / change it or is it fixed then ?
Thanks
Nephilim
When the Kickstarter ends the money gets charged from your account (as per the previous post)
Mantic also sends out a survey for what you want and they have in the past given the option to get more stuff added on which is charged a day or two after the survey is due back. However this is not guaranteed and they may give no chance to add on to your pledge after the Kickstarter ends.
*sigh* I just upped my pledge to 730. Suppression Team, the $185 Terrain Bundle; 3 extra gaming mats and a EU Bundle. Sad to think Im pretty much tapped out and its still 2 and a half weeks left of the campaign...
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Now i felt compeled to raise my pledge. Added terrain and Expanded Universe bundle.
Pretty much, all my money is gone, but im happy with my options.
Lets hope Mantic can tool +8 specialists for each new faction
And maybe, we could see a Ver-myn vs Corporation bundle at 3rd expansion
If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page Please, if you think im wrong, correct me (i will try to take it constructively).
Wow, if I could now have a round of applause for successfully predicting that the new factions would come at 500,000
(OK.. I guess it didn't really take a genius to work that one out! )
This has 'forced' me to put another $35 in for a new faction in any case - that, along with the Strike Team pledge will hopefully allow me to drop the faction I like least at the end of the KS.
Also - thought I had spent too much, and then read about people already pledging 700+ with 2 weeks left haha..
CommisarGlitch wrote: Is it just me or does the Enforcer armour look incredibly like Cerberus armour from Mass Effect 3?
Are not you thinking about Iron Man armor?
If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page Please, if you think im wrong, correct me (i will try to take it constructively).
At least that makes the decision of free faction pretty wasy (and yet SO HARD!): more Enforcers or more Rebels?
That's a pretty easy question for me. Between 10+years worth of GW Orks, a copy of Sedition Wars that I'll probably never play, and a 45-man Enforcer army bundle I picked up last year, there's only one faction I can't represent adequately with my existing collection...
Painting total as of 3429/2024: 56 plus a Deva King statue
Painting total as of 12/31/2024: 107 plus a set of modular spaceship terrain and two walkers and a quad mech and five giants
As I feared...I really like the Asterian Commander but am not keen on the Ciphers. They don't look bad themselves...just compared to the guy in charge....
Postage clarification so it's $5 extra for wave 2 shipping on top of the original $5 so $10 in total not $5 wave 1 and another $10 for wave 2.
Creator Mantic Games 4 minutes ago
Right...
RE Plague in update - This is just a picture of a shiny model in the update with a caption but seems to have caused a little confusion from a few corners.
To clarify the caption - which isn't part of the "what you get" section of the update - IF you pick a second Plague Faction Starter, you'd get the second 1st Gen. You will not get a second 1st Gen if you pick a different faction starter - you'd be getting two's of everything in that Faction Starter On shipping:
- If you choose an Expanded Faction Starter as your free faction please add $10 shipping regardless of where you are in the world.
*Shipping to UK and US*
- If you choose to add an EU Bundle, you do not need to add shipping if you're in the UK or US.
- If you are in the UK and US, add the EU Bundle and choose one of the new Faction Starters as your free one, you do not need to pay the $5 shipping for the second shipment as it's included in the bundle.
*Shipping to Europe/Rest of World (e.g. Canada, Australia)*
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, an existing faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add $5. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, either the asterian or forge fathers as your free faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add a total of $5 shipping. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
*Courier Shipping*
- Regardless of where you are in the world, you can upgrade your second shipment to courier by adding a single postage payment of $15 instead of adding standard shipping - note this means that if you are in the EU or ROW you only need to add $15, not the $5+$15.
Hope that clarifies things! Will be back in a bit in answer any questions and we'll add this to our update today.
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Well, I'll be in for Asterians at least. The bundle looks a good deal, it'd be amazing if I could get 2 Asterian starters instead of beign stuck with FF but I'm sure there'll be some swapsies going on when it all arrives.
Still slightly confused about the various shipping permutations, is the free UK shipping only on the ExpUn bundle or on the indivdual starters as well?
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
If you're a Strike Team pledger (or one of the ST Early Birds) then, if the project hits $500K you'll be able to add a free, 5th starter box to what you're getting.
This can be a duplicate of one of the 4 original starters (Enforcers, Plague, Rebs, Marauders), or one of the 2 new starters (Asterians, Forge Fathers).
If you pick one of the two new factions, it will come in a 2nd shipment in 2014 and you'll need to pay postage to cover that.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
@HMBC: Pick a faction, get the faction + all its free crap doubled.
Mr. Jellyfish is 40mm-based, big model!
@Riquende: I *think* there's nothing to pay for UK/US if you get either a $35 FF/Astie bundle or the $50 bundle that has both and then pick either FF/Ast as your freebie. I just got confused all over again trying to confirm that for you, though.
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Ah. Ok. So if all I want is the Plague starter and a few random other Reb and Enforcer minis (plus Mr. Jellyfish), then I needn't concern myself with that.
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And yeah, this forum is going nuts with the double post weirdness lately... it doesn't *actually* double-post, it just looks like it does until you refresh the page.
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Two showed up. I edited the bottom one. Hit save. The top one was edited. I Ctrl-F5'd the page a few times, and it finally reloaded with only one post. So I edited that and pasted my original reply back in. Dakka be crazy y'all!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Ah. Ok. So if all I want is the Plague starter and a few random other Reb and Enforcer minis (plus Mr. Jellyfish), then I needn't concern myself with that.
If you want the plague you can have the free starter from mine (I don't really want the 5th... I know... odd). Just add on what you need to my one.
DaveC wrote: Postage clarification so it's $5 extra for wave 2 shipping on top of the original $5 so $10 in total not $5 wave 1 and another $10 for wave 2.
Creator Mantic Games 4 minutes ago
Right...
RE Plague in update - This is just a picture of a shiny model in the update with a caption but seems to have caused a little confusion from a few corners.
To clarify the caption - which isn't part of the "what you get" section of the update - IF you pick a second Plague Faction Starter, you'd get the second 1st Gen. You will not get a second 1st Gen if you pick a different faction starter - you'd be getting two's of everything in that Faction Starter On shipping:
- If you choose an Expanded Faction Starter as your free faction please add $10 shipping regardless of where you are in the world.
*Shipping to UK and US*
- If you choose to add an EU Bundle, you do not need to add shipping if you're in the UK or US.
- If you are in the UK and US, add the EU Bundle and choose one of the new Faction Starters as your free one, you do not need to pay the $5 shipping for the second shipment as it's included in the bundle.
*Shipping to Europe/Rest of World (e.g. Canada, Australia)*
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, an existing faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add $5. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, either the asterian or forge fathers as your free faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add a total of $5 shipping. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
*Courier Shipping*
- Regardless of where you are in the world, you can upgrade your second shipment to courier by adding a single postage payment of $15 instead of adding standard shipping - note this means that if you are in the EU or ROW you only need to add $15, not the $5+$15.
Hope that clarifies things! Will be back in a bit in answer any questions and we'll add this to our update today.
I am confused to be honest, does that mean Expanded Universe needs its own shipping added?
DaveC wrote: Postage clarification so it's $5 extra for wave 2 shipping on top of the original $5 so $10 in total not $5 wave 1 and another $10 for wave 2.
Creator Mantic Games 4 minutes ago
Right...
RE Plague in update - This is just a picture of a shiny model in the update with a caption but seems to have caused a little confusion from a few corners.
To clarify the caption - which isn't part of the "what you get" section of the update - IF you pick a second Plague Faction Starter, you'd get the second 1st Gen. You will not get a second 1st Gen if you pick a different faction starter - you'd be getting two's of everything in that Faction Starter On shipping:
- If you choose an Expanded Faction Starter as your free faction please add $10 shipping regardless of where you are in the world.
*Shipping to UK and US*
- If you choose to add an EU Bundle, you do not need to add shipping if you're in the UK or US.
- If you are in the UK and US, add the EU Bundle and choose one of the new Faction Starters as your free one, you do not need to pay the $5 shipping for the second shipment as it's included in the bundle.
*Shipping to Europe/Rest of World (e.g. Canada, Australia)*
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, an existing faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add $5. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
- If you choose the Expanded Universe Bundle, either the asterian or forge fathers as your free faction and you're in Europe or Rest of World, please add a total of $5 shipping. If you're in South America or Africa, please add $15 as these would need to be couriered.
*Courier Shipping*
- Regardless of where you are in the world, you can upgrade your second shipment to courier by adding a single postage payment of $15 instead of adding standard shipping - note this means that if you are in the EU or ROW you only need to add $15, not the $5+$15.
Hope that clarifies things! Will be back in a bit in answer any questions and we'll add this to our update today.
I am confused to be honest, does that mean Expanded Universe needs its own shipping added?
Not as I read it. It's saying if you buy the EU bundle, you don't need to pay Wave 2 shipping because it's included in the price of the bundle. If you later decide you want your freebie faction starter to be something in Wave 2, you don't pay shipping because you've already paid it in the bundle.
Essentially, you pay shipping once. Since the EU bundle includes shipping, paying for that covers the shipping for any future Wave 2 purchases.
Kalamadea wrote: Hrm, not really liking the Asterians. I REALLY want space elves, but I want space ELVES and not Space Elf+ a dozen Cylons. I totally understand the fluff reasoning, I do. It makes MUCH more sense than say, a dying race using it's civilian militia as front line troops wearing paper mache armor. But it hardly makes me want to use the models or play the faction.
To each his own I guess. I'm digging that Asterians are not willing to risk more of their lives than necessary when they have the technology to do otherwise.
The only fiction that could make it better is that the drones are piloted by Asterians who are sitting at home piloting them by playing a video game.
The Asterians will field more troops in regular games of Warpath, but for Deadzone, they're the only ones who know exactly what the plague is, and aren't willing to take the risk.
It's possible that they consider being infected a fate worse than death.
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Given that Asterians are willing to suit up and form Dreadball teams*, I think we'll see bigger gangs of them in Warpath (even if they still use sizable Cypher contingents).
I asked Stew at the Open Day if Asterian teams would feature the Cyphers, and he said they didn't.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
Well the site can be safely ignored for probably two days while we move toward this goal. I think I'll check back on it on Friday.
I'm excited about the Forge Guard models as I recently came into a bunch of FF regular models for free and a bunch more at 60% off so for a counts-as SM army they'll add quite a bit.
Not sure on the Asterians but since it's basically $5 to add them so I can get two FF starters I guess I'll wind up with them.
Assuming that both new starters get rounded out to 13 models we're looking at 92 models for $200 for an average of $2.17 each. It does look better when you remove the scenery for a total of $1.63 per model. If there are more freebies added outside of that then you're looking at a pretty solid value right now.
If you don't count the scenery and don't grab one of the new starters the Strike pledge by itself is currenly $1.51 per model.
Granted this is assuming you want all the figures. The real way to determine the value for most people would probably be to remove all but the Ripper suits from the Orx starter and then do the math again
Still a pity that any multiple of Strike (i.e. Assault) doesn't allow swapping...
On a seperate note what do you guys think Mantic is planning on pricing the scenery at? Because there isn't a lot of wiggle room to avoid jumping up to GW pricing.
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Cyporiean wrote: Still alittle confused on the Asterians/Forgefathers/Freebies + Shipping front.
If I choose Asterians as my freebie, and want to add a Forgefathers starter.. with shipping to the US is it $35 or $45?
I believe it would be $45; the shipping is only included in the EU bundle. Even though you're technically making the bundle, it would be the extra $10 still. That then makes it seem like you should ponder if you really want the Asterians as a freebie or if you want to double-up on something else since it will only be $5 more to get the bundle and you can use your freebie on any faction you desire of the six (a clever upsell tactic, really).
Cyporiean wrote: Still alittle confused on the Asterians/Forgefathers/Freebies + Shipping front.
If I choose Asterians as my freebie, and want to add a Forgefathers starter.. with shipping to the US is it $35 or $45?
I believe it would be $45; the shipping is only included in the EU bundle. Even though you're technically making the bundle, it would be the extra $10 still. That then makes it seem like you should ponder if you really want the Asterians as a freebie or if you want to double-up on something else since it will only be $5 more to get the bundle and you can use your freebie on any faction you desire of the six (a clever upsell tactic, really).
That's how I read it at any rate.
Thats what I figured.. but I have no interest in getting double starter sets for any of the factions :/
Get the rebels and sell it. You're bound to get more than $5 for it. That or the Enforcers. Those'll easily be the most popular based on the models. I mean, it's $5...Heck, PM me and I'll shoot you $5 thru paypal and pay for shipping the extra starter to me
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