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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 03:50:58
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They need to show better pics of the available mini. It's ridiculous that you have to search multiple forum to be able to see the mini that are sculpted
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lost and damned log
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 03:55:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Posts with Authority
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Grrrrgggg....
Trying to decide if I would rather increase my KoW stuff or go for the DZ Strike Team....
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 04:53:52
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Hauptmann
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There, now up to $320 on my pledge. Added in more terrain and the EU pack because the price is right (and now I have two FF starters  ).
Hopefully the stretch is done when I wake up tomorrow and I can add on some more FF-related schwag.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 11:04:17
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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Trying to decide if I would rather increase my KoW stuff or go for the DZ Strike Team....
strike team imho..
mantic are hinting at adding more scenery sprues into the battle zones...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 11:11:05
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Creator Mantic Games 8 minutes ago
At Pele - currently you get 3 buildings sprues in a battlezone. We're going to show you what 4 building sprues in a BattleZone can be build. Possible hint to a future stretch goal?
You'll of course note that Recon already gets 4 building sprues...
Looks like battlezones might be goinf from 3 building sprues to 4 soon plus they will have an assembly video for 4 sprues worth this week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 11:17:58
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Black Nexus wrote:Trying to decide if I would rather increase my KoW stuff or go for the DZ Strike Team....
strike team imho..
mantic are hinting at adding more scenery sprues into the battle zones...
Would be good if they can get another sprue in there.
At the moment a single battlezone is around the same surface area coverage as a single GW CoD kit. 25% cheaper than GW (£15 instead of £20), but then it's not really the GW stuff it's competing with, it's the MDF stuff from a million different companies.
A 33% increase in the amount of "stuff in a box" would really boost the value side of things quite a lot.
One thing I'm kinda surprised about is that there isn't really any bulk value on the high-end terrain bundles... it's pretty much $25 / £15 per battlezone no matter what level you're pledging at. In fact the $185 terrain pledge is actually better value per sprue than the $280 level is.
Considering it's practically a no-brainer that the retail release will get a 4-pack battlezone set for around £50 (yes I know, that hasn't been decided yet and is rampant rabid fanboi speculation, but you can see it happening, can't you?)... the lack of bulk discount on the terrain pledges is probably keeping them from being quite as popular as they should be, considering the quality of the product and the fact that it's GW or those Russian kits as the only alternatives on the market for hard plastic terrain.
Ideally, kickstarters should sell add-ons to consumers at trade prices... Mantic used to do this with the BOGOFs in KoW and Dreadball... those aren't present here, which makes the add-ons a tough decision rather than "50% off? Hell yeah! Gimme!".
So, that mainly leaves "upgrade to 2x Strike Team" (which already has that good level of discount and will get better) as the main add-on option left for me to consider since there isn't a lot else that appeals.
Buy two battlezones for $50? Hmm.. Strike team has 2 in there, might as well go 2x strike. Buy the EU bundle for $50? Again.. 2x Strike team + pick ff/asterians as the freebies looks better.
I guess the nice thing is, the Strike Team level is really well put together and scales up nicely... it gives you a little bit of everything, with the chance to double up on everything and get both of the new factions free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 11:33:56
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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[DCM]
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I'll take anything at this point - hopefully something will stick and get people excited AND get this one moving again...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 12:30:40
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've gotta say... i'm usually a very measured guy, and non-capricious... but somehow my enthusiasm for this Kickstarter is waxing and waning constantly. I probably hyped myself up a bit to excess based on the Mantic legendary value ( TM), but so far, it all feels good, and fair... not exciting.
I also hate the fact that as time ticks down, several more "big" stretch-goals will likely unlock more terrain, which has proven far less compelling than I expected.
Late last year, I backed this.... to support a local club-mate... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adventureterrain/wargame-roleplaying-and-model-railroad-terrain , and my $170 US got me such an embarrassment of riches, that I still cannot believe it. I can COVER a 8x4 table with a variety of natural and man-made terrain, and the volume/quality I got for my buck blew me away, as this individual essentially priced his Kickstarter rates at "cost".
I, perhaps wrongly, expected the same of Mantic, who was said to be famous for doing just that to grow their fan-bases.
As it stands, the terrain is... alright. If anything, the only things keeping me engaged right now are....
1. The promise of character-growth / campaign rules, because that is a stand-out feature I can't find in other games I own right now.
2. I'm treating this like a Warpath primer... because that is the Kickstarter I am wishing this was. :-p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 12:52:20
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Fixture of Dakka
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From the comments section...
" just chatting to Jake about the Beta at the moment and scheduling the gameplay video in.
On scenery sprues, I have the final sprue layout. You guys should be very happy with it, much better than what we previously thought was possible. Look for the next update coming soon."
This is sounding like it could be a turnabourt point, no?
That is, unless they're overegging it. But noone would do that, would they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 13:09:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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Compel wrote:From the comments section...
" just chatting to Jake about the Beta at the moment and scheduling the gameplay video in.
On scenery sprues, I have the final sprue layout. You guys should be very happy with it, much better than what we previously thought was possible. Look for the next update coming soon."
This is sounding like it could be a turnabourt point, no?
That is, unless they're overegging it. But noone would do that, would they? 
It may provide a boost but I doubt it will be a 'turn around point'. I think folks hoping this would be the Best Terrain Deal EVAH! have already looked and passed it by for a variety of reasons.
We'll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 13:30:12
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Fixture of Dakka
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You're probably right, I was trying to bring some optimism back though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 13:52:47
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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The New Miss Macross!
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Didn't Mantic used to run 30 day kickstarters? Deadzone is listed as a 38 day one (a wierd number). Can you just pick the day you want to end now with KS and that's why you can get these previously nonstandard lengths? While I agree that some of the choices of sculpts and updates haven't turned out as hoped, perhaps the added length of the campaign is increasing the mid-KS lull adding to the effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 13:57:38
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Fixture of Dakka
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They probably tweaked the length so they could match peoples pay days better :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:02:08
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Dundee, Scotland/Dharahn, Saudi Arabia
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Well that's the 1/2 mil clicked over.
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If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it. item 87, skippys list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:05:16
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Update:
Mantic KS wrote:
Unbelievable!
We’ve done it – that’s half a million dollars achieved… simply a mindblowing amount in the time frame!
So to recap, that’s now:
- A fifth free faction of your choice added to a pledge of Strike Team and up!
- The Asterian Faction Starter locked in!
- The Forge Father Faction Starter locked in!
- Digital rules for the two new factions added to your pledge!
Thank you so much!
The Expanded Universe Bundle is the best way to get the two new factions, saving $20 off adding them individually.
$510,000 – BattleZone Upgrade: +1 Buildings Sprue
If we hit this goal we will add 1 additional Building Sprue to each BattleZone FOR FREE.
Currently the BattleZones are at 3 Building Sprues and 1 Connector Sprue. Hitting this stretch goal will change that to 4 Buildings Sprues and 1 Connector Sprue, adding the equivalent of 6 tiles into each set. We will make sure that the Connector Sprue is resized to give you enough connectors for the extra tiles.
All future BattleZones will get this starting number of sprues as standard.
So, what does that mean for our scenery pledge levels and add-ons?
Only-click Urban Battlefield ($100 + early bird):
PLUS 4 additional Building Sprues - approximately 24 Tiles
Only-click Urban Wargames Table ($285 + early bird):
PLUS 12 additional Building Sprues - approximately 72 Tiles
Urban Fight ($25) Scenery Add-on:
PLUS 1 additional Building Sprue - approximately 6 tiles
Urban Skirmish ($50) Scenery Add-on:
PLUS 2 additional Building Sprues - approximately 12 tiles
Urban Battle ($95) Scenery Add-on:
PLUS 4 additional Building Sprues - approximately 24 Tiles
Urban War ($185) Scenery Add-on:
PLUS 8 additional Building Sprues - approximately 48 Tiles
$520,000 – FREE Doctor Gayle Simmonds
One of the stars in the lead up to our Kickstarter launching, Doctor Simmonds unfortunately met an untimely end as the Plague outbreak just got too much for her…
Doctor Simmonds was one of the genius minds on Nexus Psi, stationed as both an archaeologist and biotechnician.
By the time the Containment Protocol was ordered and the Enforcers landed, Simmonds had already lost her team to the mutant beasts roaming the streets. Having received basic training by the security teams on board her ship during spaceflight, Gayle managed to preserve her life a little better than the others – but it was only a matter of time before the Plague caught up with her.
Defiant in the clutches of a rabid second generation, her body succumbed to the mutant virus, warping far faster than any other victim previous. She eventually awoke from the turmoil, her need for knowledge greatly exaggerated, a base desire to cause pain greatly inflamed.
With vengeance on her mind, Simmonds vowed to destroy those that had left her to this fate.
If we hit this goal we will be able to sculpt and tool Doctor Gayle Simmonds, a brand new special character for the Plague – and include her free with pledges of Recon ($100 + Early Bird) and up*
Not only that but such is her importance to the Nexus Psi story that Jake will centre one of the scenarios around Simmonds, as the Enforcers will need to quickly end her life if they are to escape her thirst for blood!
* Not including the scenery only pledges.
$525,000 – FREE Deadzone Short-Story Compilation
Enriching the Warpath universe was one of the key motivations behind Deadzone and, if we hit this goal, you’ll allow us to delve further into the background as we will write a short story compilation written by the likes of esteemed authors Guy Haley, Alessio Cavatore, Jake Thornton PLUS special guests.
This epic new compilation will feature all-new explosive stories between the warring factions and special characters both new and old.
If we hit this goal, we will add a FREE digital copy of the Deadzone Short Story Compilation with every pledge on the Deadzone Kickstarter.
There you go guys, let us know what you think in the comments. Let’s get these goals hit!
Edited to fix formatting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:08:09
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Now this is getting more like it.. looks like they are starting to do what ScarletSquig suggested some posts ago..
Wish they would show more pics of the rebels.. they look like the most evocative faction in the game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:09:08
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $500k goal: Free Faction Starter. +13 free minis!
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Gargantuan Gargant
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3 goals in a 25K spread. 2 Tangible and 1 digital. Not bad. Not bad at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:23:30
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Sweet, all of the terrain-only backers (and those buying terrain add-ons) now get 33% more terrain.
And a free mini, and some fiction. Pretty cool mix for the next $25k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:36:42
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Confirmation that the $510k stretch goal does not apply to Strike team as it doesn't contain Battlezones just building sprues (or other game pledge levels) but there will be more for them later.
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Creator Mantic Games 1 minute ago
Strike Team doesn't have BattleZones but will be getting more sprues by the end of the campaign 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:38:13
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Digital book - meh! Will never read it but new mini, more scenery - thumbs up!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:50:33
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Nice but Simmonds needs to be less zombie like in pose, she does not fit her background like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:04:22
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
E. City, NC
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Saxon wrote:Digital book - meh! Will never read it but new mini, more scenery - thumbs up!!!!
It's only 5k. Hopefully once we unlock the plague 'witch' doctor, they'll show what's next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:06:44
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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A grand total of two women in your game, and one is a zombie.
Bravo, Mantic. Bravo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:06:54
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Fixture of Dakka
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PsychoticStorm wrote:Nice but Simmonds needs to be less zombie like in pose, she does not fit her background like that.
This is post infection Simmonds one of the new Scenarios will be to hunt her down and kill her
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:14:16
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Someone took my Deadzone Interview with Jake Thornton and translated the whole thing into Russian! http://tesera.ru/article/267152
That's some serious effort there to spread the thing beyond the english-speaking world!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:15:25
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Hauptmann
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Considering the new terrain upgrade, I'm glad I went in for the $95 terrain add-on. Come on guys, get me my 24 extra tiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:19:42
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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AlexHolker wrote:A grand total of two women in your game, and one is a zombie.
Bravo, Mantic. Bravo.
DaveC wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:Nice but Simmonds needs to be less zombie like in pose, she does not fit her background like that.
This is post infection Simmonds one of the new Scenarios will be to hunt her down and kill her
Have to admit that really made me laugh out loud..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:22:14
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Zealous Knight
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AlexHolker wrote:A grand total of two women in your game, and one is a zombie.
Bravo, Mantic. Bravo.
One faction consists mostly of robots, one is so heavily armoured it would be anyone's guess visually, one is so far gone into mutation you wouldn't see the difference, one consists of dwarfs and for all we know they could all be female - beards and all -, marauders well I wouldn't be surprised if they'd have quite different sexual characteristics from humans anyway and the rebs are mostly alien as well.
"hey mantic, a game with dozens of models and not one of them is a pony?!? nice going!" would make just about as much sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:25:40
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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DaveC wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:Nice but Simmonds needs to be less zombie like in pose, she does not fit her background like that.
This is post infection Simmonds one of the new Scenarios will be to hunt her down and kill her
Her background post infection is that she is a perverted genius more so than before, a crippled zombie look does not fit her to be honest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 16:27:10
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $510k goal: + 1 free sprue to every battlezone.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hopefully they'll bring out another female reb as one of the alternative sculpts later on.
Maybe a 'live' version of Simmonds too.
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