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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 13:48:00
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I'm guessing some people don't like the price point of Maki.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 13:51:07
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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I just noticed the '4 Free Terrain Sprues' on the Strike Team pledge. Any idea if this means we get 13 sprues with Strike Team, or was that from way back in the beginning and was just us taking us from 5 sprues to 9?
And any details on what changed in the Antenociti bundles? I was kindof meh about them originally, but I could be persuaded to change my mind,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 13:59:39
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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At the 'Ranger' level you get 10 containers and a bunch of steps/railings/walkways for $135. Not cheap, but I didn't think it was too bad a deal. Any stretch goals will make it better.
Looking at a similar container from Armorcast ( http://armorcast.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=700 ) it doesn't seem too unreasonable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 14:06:47
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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[DCM]
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I remain excited about this one - and like the fact that the FOrge Fathers and Asterians are about to get some much needed attention as well.
And more mercenaries?
Sure!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 14:36:23
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Multispectral Nisse
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I don't get the scifi vibe from the Maki KS. I can either make shipping containers or some skull infested monstrosity, neither of which interest me greatly. I know they've talked about different designs and I'll look back again at it, but right now I'm not impressed by the aesthetic nor impressed by the buy-in price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 14:43:32
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I hope Mantic can get the Forge Father and Asterian factions completely filled out as fast as possible, preferably with a single modest stretch goal. Having them sloooowly be unlocked a few new specialist and duplicate figures at a time will take longer than they have time for at this point in the KS cycle. I even wonder if it would be worth it to Mantic to hedge their bets and say, "we'll cover the tooling costs for these" and just put up the completed sets as add-ons immediately.
Mantic now has to prioritize what stretch goals they consider essential to accomplish by the KS's end, without taking massive pledge escalation in the final days for granted. This is my first KS and I could just be a poor backseat strategist, but pledging trends on this campaign have absolutely baffled me, rising when I was sure they'd fall and falling when I was sure they'd rise. If the Ruins stretch goal turns out to be killing momentum over the next day or two, Mantic might even want to consider saving ruins as a major theme for a future expansion and completely replace them with other stretch goals for now. As a customer, I'd like to have the ruins available to add-on, but not at the expense of the campaign's overall success.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:04:50
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If Maki makes to 40.000 they will do a Sci Fi themed container, that looks A LOT like the terrain on Deadzone.
They a a touch smaller (2,75 inches (high and wide) and 5.5 inches long against 3 inches all around on deadzone), but if they make to the 40K stretch goal, I might pick a couple to add some variety to the table
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:21:02
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Can we stop going on about Maki in this thread?
Dakka is starting to look like the comments section in the Kickstarter, which has, for the past three days been filled with "OMG Robotech!" "OMG Galaxy Defenders!" "OMG Maki!" "OMG Spartan!" far more than actual discussion about Deadzone itself.
It was a relief to have Ronnie chatting in the KS comments last night just to get things semi back on-topic, even if half of the questions were about Brian Blessed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:23:12
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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[DCM]
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We can also use the Mod Alert system to point out Off Topic posts, if there are any.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:32:36
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Since about 10% of the posts in the Maki-thread are about Deadzone, not least those by you Squig, it only seems fair if at least 10% or so of the posts in the Deadzone thread would be about Maki.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:35:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Pious Warrior Priest
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^ I gave my opinion on Maki on the Maki thread. It's nice enough, but the Mantic stuff costs at least three times less.
At the risk of going wildly on-topic and completely derailing the discussion in this thread, here's a couple of new links that have been put up by Mantic, one for the terrain renders and another for a recommended pledge loadout:
http://deadzonethegame.com/guides/build-cities.html
http://www.deadzonethegame.com/guides/optimum-payload.html
Edit: new pics as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:38:35
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Fixture of Dakka
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scarletsquig wrote:Can we stop going on about Maki in this thread?
Dakka is starting to look like the comments section in the Kickstarter, which has, for the past three days been filled with "OMG Robotech!" "OMG Galaxy Defenders!" "OMG Maki!" "OMG Spartan!" far more than actual discussion about Deadzone itself.
It was a relief to have Ronnie chatting in the KS comments last night just to get things semi back on-topic, even if half of the questions were about Brian Blessed...
You constantly are dropping comments for Mantic products in other people's KS threads... Double standard much? You have made multiple "dreadzone's terrain is better' in other people's threads already.
Comparing products quality and value is part of the discussion. If people see a legitimately better product or cheaper and they want to support it, then it is valid to discuss here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:42:05
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Pious Warrior Priest
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^ One comment, in one thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:45:54
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Hey guys,
did you hear about Maki? Let's all talk about it via PM
Okay, back to Deadzone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:52:31
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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Fixture of Dakka
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Are there any Warpath terraign sets out just yet?
Can someone post a picture of thier figures that they have from the already available stuff and discuss the ones that are already out?
I'd like to see something other then pictures and concept art for a look at those that are already available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 15:53:03
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Recon Unit N32-19, free for all $100+ backers
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This thread's been positively friendly and informative - let's keep it that way, OK?
I mean, we don't need any big, bad moderator type of warnings, do we?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 16:03:48
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Stirke Team levels
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Squig, just saw your backer photos/ signatures over on the KS comments. Awesome work and thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 16:27:29
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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So beta rules tomorrow, as Jake delayed them for extra polish, Gameplay video is hopefully shot tomorrow and edited as fast as possible. Edit Also list of next streachgoals once the enforcer pathfinder is locked in, that is at the time of writing at 3,250$
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 16:47:38
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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The main reason I'm out of this kickstarter is the main reason why I first became a Mantic customer: I love plastic.
Having re-evaluated how much time I want to spend on restics thanks to Dreadball, I've decided to wait until the hard plastics of the Warpath KS come out.
However, I probably still would have stayed in for forgefathers and asterians if it hadn't been for Mantic's handling of the KoW and Dreadball kickstarters. They have openly admitted to ditching the concepts they sold backers on as well as repeatedly promising to fix unsatisfactory models only to renege. Their attitude is difficult to reconcile with the company that seemed to care about satisfying customers last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 16:48:39
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I too would like to just see some of the proposed stretches put up in one fell swoop.
After getting confirmation that the booster packs for the starter factions will be static and set, I hope those go up soon because I would imagine if they offer any sort of discount on multiple purchases the total should start climbing.
At that point put a farther stretch goal where both factions get completely filled out and we'll keep climbing from there.
I guess we'll see what's in store.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 16:56:18
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Pious Warrior Priest
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@ Bob: They're making hard plastic enforcers and plague as an endgame stretchgoal for this KS.
Also worth noting that for $500 they will sculpt you an Enforcer with a gimp mask and giant nipples.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 17:09:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 17:11:24
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Not sure I would like to see that, Restic seems to retain organic forms better than plastic, then again non multiposed plastics are not bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 17:24:21
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Dakka Veteran
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Double posts for the double post god! Mods for his throne!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 17:28:20
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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Total of 9 sprues in Strike team
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 18:11:22
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Brigadier General
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This really get's my necromunda blood racing!
I find the smaller table with taller terrain much more visually interesting than the 4x4 space with less. Unfortunately I can't afford it right now, but sometime down the road I may try and pick up more of this terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 18:15:43
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Old Sourpuss
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Because I've only been keeping a cursory glance at this KS (I did the Ron Popiel, I set it [my pledge] and forgot it  ) How many sprues makes up a battlezone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 18:24:40
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Dakka Veteran
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Alfndrate wrote:Because I've only been keeping a cursory glance at this KS (I did the Ron Popiel, I set it [my pledge] and forgot it  ) How many sprues makes up a battlezone?
4 Building Sprues
1 Connector Sprue
So 4 sprues worth of tiles, bits, ladders, and so on, and then another sprue of all the little fiddly bits to snap everything together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 18:30:53
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Old Sourpuss
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So as it stands, if I've pledge for the Strike Team, I currently have 2.25 Battlezones worth of terrain sprues and could roughly make the following?
Sorry for the questions, KS is work blocked and I'm very behind the times  I'm just trying to imagine everything I'm getting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 18:35:21
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $537.5k goal: Enforcer Pathfinder, free for Recon & Strike Team levels
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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That's so funny that they made that picture. They have way more solid "walls" and "floors" shown than actually come on the sprues they showed. And, unless those walkway railings are on the connector sprues, they weren't shown on the two core worlds sprues. So, it's funny that the walkway with railing is used for the core worlds representation, but neither actually appears on the sprues they showed.
I want to buy in on the terrain, but their ability to go from artwork to real pieces actually scares the  out of me more so with the terrain than the figures. I really hope they have some renders of the other battlezones before the end of the KS. Because if it is going to take 4 sprues to make that defence position, then that's not worth it. And the damaged sections are all heavily armored, so doesn't really fit in with interchanging with the core worlds stuff. I really don't like my DB stuff, so I don't want the figures, but I'd really like for the terrain besides the core world stuff to be good.
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