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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 17:45:47
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
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Interesting new post
Creator Mantic Games less than a minute ago
@ JMMelo - the Enforcer Captain has separate cloak and an alternate head with the mask closed
There is also the Warpath Enforcer Captain available too!
Glad the cloak is separate the head I could live with the cloak not so much but different head to!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 17:49:31
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mantic needs to advertise those alternative sort of things a helluva lot more.
That's probably going to make a whole load of people REALLY happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 17:56:29
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Dont know if its been mentioned but the enforcer captain comes with an alternative closed helm and the cape is now seperate
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 17:58:54
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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The cape being separate is only helpful/useful if there is detail it covers. If instead it is an undetailed blob which really needs the cape glued on to make the figure look complete it is not very useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:01:02
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Being digitally sculpted id guess there will be detail. Il ask in comments
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:01:13
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Ashland/Huntington, USA
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I'll never understand why everyone is so quick to offer up Grimn as sci fi Dwarves. I know that's what Kev meant them to be, but they just look like sci fi short people. Not like Dwarves at all.
I really do like them, and I have several of them, but I use them as humans with dwarfism not Space Dwarves. To me they just aren't fit for their intended purpose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:03:36
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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At least the option is there for people now!
Plus Mr. Grumpyface can stick to the fluff and keep that mask DOWN.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:06:51
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Mantic on comments say definitely detail underneath
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:09:38
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Seriously they waited for the last 3rd to reply to the very first criticism they had....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:14:17
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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PsychoticStorm wrote:Seriously they waited for the last 3rd to reply to the very first criticism they had....
It was probably only recently changed. It's a digital sculpt and the fig we've scene is probably a resin test cast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:46:23
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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I am less than sure how "humans with dwarfism" in a sci fi setting are NOT "Space Dwarves".
Additionally, they really do not display the physical characteristics one would expect from 'humans with dwarfism'.
But to each their own, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 18:49:14
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Awesome, really happy to hear about the captain getting enclosed helm and no cloak options.
Mantic listen. And act.
Also, I'm changing the KS link in the OP (and my sig) to a Jamply referral link, hope no-one minds.
Basically, Mantic are giving away resin casts to whoever manages to drive the most traffic to their kickstarter page. I don't expect to win because I don't use facebook all that much, mainly doing it because I'm curious about seeing how many people actually click through to it from dakka. :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 19:00:40
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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DaveC wrote:Interesting new post
Creator Mantic Games less than a minute ago
@ JMMelo - the Enforcer Captain has separate cloak and an alternate head with the mask closed
There is also the Warpath Enforcer Captain available too!
Glad the cloak is separate the head I could live with the cloak not so much but different head to!
Yes! Glad to hear that!
Totally agree that I could have l lived with the head, but definitely not the cloak.
Mo'teef wrote:I'll never understand why everyone is so quick to offer up Grimn as sci fi Dwarves. I know that's what Kev meant them to be, but they just look like sci fi short people. Not like Dwarves at all.
I really do like them, and I have several of them, but I use them as humans with dwarfism not Space Dwarves. To me they just aren't fit for their intended purpose.
They fit just as well as any other "Dwarves in space". Plus they are a helluva lot better sculpted than pretty much all the alternatives.
~Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 19:03:11
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Huzzah for the news about the Enforcer captain! This makes another starter set of those guys much more appealing...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 19:14:07
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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scarletsquig wrote:
Basically, Mantic are giving away resin casts to whoever manages to drive the most traffic to their kickstarter page. I don't expect to win because I don't use facebook all that much, mainly doing it because I'm curious about seeing how many people actually click through to it from dakka. :p
Hmmm... resin casts.
Wonder when I'll get mine from the DreadBall Zzor-Team naming contest.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 21:15:00
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Does anyone know roughly how large the Asterian Cyphers are intended to be, i.e. are they roughly as large as Wraithguard?
I'm probably going to pick a couple sets up as an Add O. I intend to use them primarily for Warpath but would like to have the option to use them for 40K also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 21:19:19
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deathwolf wrote:Does anyone know roughly how large the Asterian Cyphers are intended to be, i.e. are they roughly as large as Wraithguard?
I'm probably going to pick a couple sets up as an Add O. I intend to use them primarily for Warpath but would like to have the option to use them for 40K also.
This is all I've seen for scale - that's the Dreadball Praetorian (front center) - who is a Cypher
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:03:56
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Cool stuff, I'm glad they're giving the helmeted option for the enforcer captain. That being said, I do quite like the 'Creed' style scowling face.
And what is the massive, unpainted thing with the Predator-style wrist blade in that photo?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:12:53
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Ultimate Dreadball Alpha simian.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:14:37
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $560k goal: Forgefather Drill & Asterian Drone - Beta rules released!
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Making Stuff
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Ronin_eX wrote:For me, the proportions are a lot better and the poses much improved. Not sure on the faces still but a lot of that is due to it being hard to pick out exact details on them. They probably look fine painted up.
The faces really don't work for me. They look like someone was trying to sculpt GW orks without making them look like GW orks... so they just look like bad copies. They won't fit with GW models, and they don't look good as stand-alones.
That and Mantic's trademarked skinny leg, knock-kneed posing kill these for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:23:34
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mo'teef wrote:I'll never understand why everyone is so quick to offer up Grimn as sci fi Dwarves. I know that's what Kev meant them to be, but they just look like sci fi short people. Not like Dwarves at all.
I really do like them, and I have several of them, but I use them as humans with dwarfism not Space Dwarves. To me they just aren't fit for their intended purpose.
Quoting CptJake, they really have no characteristics of regular dwarfism. I could accept them as "space hobbits" since they are better proportioned than the usual fantasy/sci fi dwarf, but then again, the problem we have here is the usual representation of dwarfs as "bearded balls with legs, monkey arms and axes". We have GW in part to thank for that one  Seriously, ever try to imagine the anatomy of a GW dwarf? Where do the legs even connect?
CptJake wrote:I am less than sure how "humans with dwarfism" in a sci fi setting are NOT "Space Dwarves".
Additionally, they really do not display the physical characteristics one would expect from 'humans with dwarfism'.
But to each their own, right?
 Exactly what I was trying to say... plus the scultps are just excelent, and Mantic already has a working relationship with Kev White...
Taarnak wrote:DaveC wrote:Interesting new post
Creator Mantic Games less than a minute ago
@ JMMelo - the Enforcer Captain has separate cloak and an alternate head with the mask closed
There is also the Warpath Enforcer Captain available too!
Glad the cloak is separate the head I could live with the cloak not so much but different head to!
Yes! Glad to hear that!
Totally agree that I could have l lived with the head, but definitely not the cloak.
Mo'teef wrote:I'll never understand why everyone is so quick to offer up Grimn as sci fi Dwarves. I know that's what Kev meant them to be, but they just look like sci fi short people. Not like Dwarves at all.
I really do like them, and I have several of them, but I use them as humans with dwarfism not Space Dwarves. To me they just aren't fit for their intended purpose.
They fit just as well as any other "Dwarves in space". Plus they are a helluva lot better sculpted than pretty much all the alternatives.
~Eric
I would still prefer a more dinamic captain, but closed helm and no cloak beats Captain Grumpy Pants any day
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:28:10
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fresh-Faced New User
Ashland/Huntington, USA
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CptJake wrote:I am less than sure how "humans with dwarfism" in a sci fi setting are NOT "Space Dwarves".
I'm pretty sure you and 99+% of everyone else on Dakka know that "Space Dwarves" refers to the Fantasy trope of Dwarves transplanted into a sci fi setting and has nothing to do with humans who have dwarfism.
CptJake wrote:Additionally, they really do not display the physical characteristics one would expect from 'humans with dwarfism'.
But to each their own, right?
On this point, I asked around and they were the best suggestion I received. If someone offers a better alternative, I'll happily take it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:51:55
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Braaaaaainzzzzzzzzzz Update #56 · May 24, 2013 · 15 comments We’re really stepping things up as we finish off the core game and start going big! Just check out these goals – and make sure you read all the way to the bottom  $600,000 – Deadzone Compendium: The Ultimate Gamer’s Guide If we hit this goal, we’ll write, layout and print this kickass soft cover book – the Ultimate Guide to Deadzone! This mighty tome contains: - The complete Nexus Psi Campaign: all 6 Narrative Scenarios, including the Recon Unit extraction, the hunt for Simmonds and the Trapped DreadBall MVP Missions - plus an additional scenario for every 500 Backers we get (and we’re now less than 100 backers from the next one!) - Detailed Assembly Guides for your miniatures and scenery - Detailed Painting Guides for your miniatures and scenery - Faction Strategy Guides - Hobby Gallery of Scenery and Miniatures - PLUS all rules expansions funded as part of this campaign – we’re aiming for Solo play, “Zombie” Rules and large skirmish games played on multiple boards! If we hit this goal we’ll include a digital copy of this must-have book into every pledge!! Become a Deadzone Veteran! As we enter the final week of the Deadzone Kickstarter we wanted to give you something extra special to say thank you - and the Deadzone Compendium was the answer! The ultimate guide to Deadzone is a fantastic resource but we just couldn’t squeeze a free printed copy into Strike Team. So, we came up with this: If you have made a total pledge of $300 or more, including any add-ons and shipping, you'll become a Deadzone Veteran and will get a FREE printed copy of the Ultimate Gamer’s Guide included with your package. This will be a limited edition Veteran Edition of the book, signed with a personal message of thanks from Ronnie. It will also have an exclusive cover with alternate art, available only to Veteran backers. Whether you’re in for the scenery or going for the game, there’s something in this book for everyone but if you can't quite stretch to $300 then you can still add-on a physical of the standard book to your pledge: $610,000 – Insane new Zombie Rules Towering men in shining suits of armour, hulking green monstrosities, the alien with a face full of tentacles… Ana thought she’d seen it all. But the sight of her friend, half of her face missing, clawing herself along the ground; that was too much to take. Paralysed, too scared to even scream, listening to the sounds of the half-dozen Infected tearing flesh from bone in the next room, Ana resigned herself to death. If we hit this goal, we will write and publish rules for adding Plague Zombies to your two player game. The "Zombies" are a brutal new enemy that will attack both forces, even the Plague themselves! We will add a free digital copy of these rules in every pledge as we’ll include them in the Deadzone Compendium! These combatants add an extra dimension and tactical challenge to your games as you’re not only fighting against your opponent, but also the horde baying for blood. Of course, you’ll also be needing some models too… $635,000 – Hard Plastic Plague Zombies In the aftermath of infection, many millions of citizens encounter the nightmare horrors of the Plague. Not all meet the same fate. A handful survive, scratching out a living on the shattered remnants of their world. By far the majority are slaughtered, their minds and bodies succumbing to the infection. The remainder are those who survive the first attacks, often horribly wounded and mentally scarred by the ferocity of the mutants. These regular citizens are infected by the mutating horror of the alien plague. This mutation creates the sadly familiar monsters you see on the battlefield, but these are just its greatest works. Far more common are the rejected mutations that have overwhelmed their host to the point of leaving little but a hollow shell of a twisted animal. Officially these creatures are 3rd Generation Plague mutants. However, to distinguish them from the normal 3rd Gens who retain memories and skills from their former lives and hold a degree of higher cognitive function, these are coded as 3Z. They are bestial and savage creatures, driven by pain and hunger to attack, though lacking the fighting skill of the purer, more successful mutations. Given their appearance it is hardly surprising that most combat troops refer to them as zombies. If we hit this goal, we’ll be able to sculpt and tool a multi-part set of Plague Zombies in Hard Plastic. Concept art is work in progress. These will be separated at the waist with a ball joint meaning that the torsos and legs will be interchangeable, just like the plastic Kings of War Zombies we're famed for. There will also be a range of heads and weapons allowing you to customise your figures. To say thank you for hitting the goal, we’ll include a free sprue of 5 Plastic Zombies into every pledge of Strike Team ($150 and Early Bird) and up!* * Not including the scenery only pledge Note that the Plague Zombies will ship in the second shipment. Of course, you'll be wanting more and you can now pick up a set of 20 Zombies for $15 in the add-on section: Spread the word – we think these could be popular I was already in for more than $300.. And Zombies seem to be popular with the kids these days, so why not? And hard plastic SF Zombies? That ought to generate some pledge money!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:57:36
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Fixture of Dakka
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75 cent a zombie can't argue with that and it effectively makes the Plague a full Warpath army already. Yeah I'm well past Veteran level at this stage  The total is certainly moving again.
EDIT: Plague Zombies will be digital sculpts and be compatible with the ghouls and current zombies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:06:19
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Additional update info:
Following the same fit and function as our Kings of War Plastic Zombies, these Sci-fi Variants are cut at the waist and have a ball joint for extra posability. There will also be a range of heads and weapons for you to model your Plague Zombies with.
Note that even if you’re not interested in Deadzone or the scenery you can still pick up a set of the Plague Zombies on the Kickstarter. All you have to do is pledge $20 (includes $5 for shipping) and we’ll send you a set of 20.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:08:19
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Multispectral Nisse
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To be honest the book is somewhat underwhelming... it will contain the campaign, which was already a SG, plus probably some very basic guides. I suppose it will take on more value when the 'rules expansions' get funded, but I'd expect to see it a little later down the line, especially as it still seems the FF/Asterian starters are a bit on the bare side.
Also, not interested in zombies, personally. However, lots of people are so hopefully it proves a popular series of stretches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:08:22
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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Hmm, may add some to use as undead fodder in Warzone scenarios. The price is certainly right. Damn you Mantic!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:17:20
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers
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You know I'll take your Z's Riquende!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:19:43
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers + SCI-FI ZOMBIES!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm seriously impressed, although I won't be getting any extra zombies other than the basic 5.
I got the big z-corps box, so I'm not really needing many more, though I could use them as almost squad leaders...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:21:10
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $575k goal: Forgefather Brokkrs & Asterian Cyphers + SCI-FI ZOMBIES!
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Also, Mantic have confirmed cross-compatibility with their KoW zombie and ghoul frames.
They won't be re-using any parts from them, but they will be compatible, to give lots of extra variety if you want it.
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