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It's not a spork! Say it right! It is properly labeled a "Forpoon"

 dogma wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I could have sworn my high school cafeteria had metal butter knives, forks, and spoons.

We had plastic sporks.

But we also had a wood shop with a belt sander, table saw, and bandsaw.

And teacher supervision.

I am old enough and live in a certain part of the country where i remember going into high school and seeing shotguns in gun racks in the back of pick up trucks. Also remember in shop class getting my ass chewed for not having a buck knife to open up boxes cut rope etc etc. What we are seeing here is alot of rotten apples ruining it for everyone else

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Noble 32 wrote:
I am old enough and live in a certain part of the country where i remember going into high school and seeing shotguns in gun racks in the back of pick up trucks. Also remember in shop class getting my ass chewed for not having a buck knife to open up boxes cut rope etc etc. What we are seeing here is alot of rotten apples ruining it for everyone else

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You too eh?

If we want to make schools safer, we need to sendin the National Guard to police the school's like they did after 9/11.

The girl got 1-day of suspension. That is not a reason for people to flip out. Kids can miss a day of school every once in a while and still survive in the real-world later on.

 Easy E wrote:
The girl got 1-day of suspension. That is not a reason for people to flip out. Kids can miss a day of school every once in a while and still survive in the real-world later on.

But if it ends up on her permanent record it might make finding employment tricky.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
The girl got 1-day of suspension. That is not a reason for people to flip out. Kids can miss a day of school every once in a while and still survive in the real-world later on.

But if it ends up on her permanent record it might make finding employment tricky.

No it won't...

>_>

Source: personal experience...

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
The girl got 1-day of suspension. That is not a reason for people to flip out. Kids can miss a day of school every once in a while and still survive in the real-world later on.

But if it ends up on her permanent record it might make finding employment tricky.

Not really.

Other than colleges, no one looks at your high school records for anything past "Diploma Achieved"!

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification

As a former hiring manager, I only cared about diploma/degrees (as needed for job), did anything come up on the back ground check, were they donkey-caves at the interview, do I think they will they do the work/hours/whatever?

I couldn't care less about what happened in high school.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification

Might be different across the pond though, so who knows

 CptJake wrote:
And a pink bandana is what gang's colors?

And IF you can find a gang that uses a pink bandana as their colors, is there a chapter where this took place?

Big difference between 'you are representing the crips' and 'you have a generic pink bandana and that just may be gang related'. Administrators have the responsibility to know the difference and act accordingly. If they don't they need to be held accounatble.

I agree. I should also mention, that this girl goes to an upper class school, and they live in an area with a crime rate so low Ive honestly heard parents say and I quote " Gangs are only made up for TV" So yea, context and all.....I mean really? Id understand if she lived in a high crime low income area, but thats very much not the case. Not to mention, schools should at the very least, have some idea of the level of threat their students can hold. My cousins daughter is captain of the Cheer leading squad, makes honor roll every time, and volunteers at the school.

This situation is just a complete cluster feth of current events

 KingCracker wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And a pink bandana is what gang's colors?

And IF you can find a gang that uses a pink bandana as their colors, is there a chapter where this took place?

Big difference between 'you are representing the crips' and 'you have a generic pink bandana and that just may be gang related'. Administrators have the responsibility to know the difference and act accordingly. If they don't they need to be held accounatble.

I agree. I should also mention, that this girl goes to an upper class school, and they live in an area with a crime rate so low Ive honestly heard parents say and I quote " Gangs are only made up for TV" So yea, context and all.....I mean really? Id understand if she lived in a high crime low income area, but thats very much not the case. Not to mention, schools should at the very least, have some idea of the level of threat their students can hold. My cousins daughter is captain of the Cheer leading squad, makes honor roll every time, and volunteers at the school.

This situation is just a complete cluster feth of current events

She's obviously a menace to society.

I know im playing devils Advocate, but sometimes Bandana arent a school thing, but a District, My school covered several HS, some good some bad, none you can wear bandanas.

hotsauceman1 wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Something equally stupid happened to my cousins daughter just recently. Her daughter is into... erm Im not sure what the style is called, but where she likes to dress up like a biker chick from the 50s? Anywho. She wore a pink bandanna to school to hold her hair up, and was told she HAD to take it off right now. She couldnt understand why and simply asked "OK, well what rule am I breaking for wearing this?" And so she was suspended and my cousin was told by the principal "Its because your daughter is showing gang colors"


fething.....ridiculous

I remember when i wore a bandana around campus as a social experiment, never got stopped once, while i knew several that did.
But yeah, schools have to be careful when it comes to gangs in all seriousness.

d-usa wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Something equally stupid happened to my cousins daughter just recently. Her daughter is into... erm Im not sure what the style is called, but where she likes to dress up like a biker chick from the 50s? Anywho. She wore a pink bandanna to school to hold her hair up, and was told she HAD to take it off right now. She couldnt understand why and simply asked "OK, well what rule am I breaking for wearing this?" And so she was suspended and my cousin was told by the principal "Its because your daughter is showing gang colors"


fething.....ridiculous

This is actually a very real deal. My wife works at a Elementary school, and there were 1st graders in fething gangs, targeting other kids in rival gangs. So while it may seem excessive at the surface, it is a real problem.

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 Alfndrate wrote:



She's obviously a menace to society.

As are all cheerleaders.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I know im playing devils Advocate, but sometimes Bandana arent a school thing, but a District, My school covered several HS, some good some bad, none you can wear bandanas.

Load of gak. Complete load of gak. The girl is VERY CLEARLY a good kid, and the school knows it. Rather then calmly explain why she shouldnt be wearing the bandanna, they just give her the boot for asking why? You cant possibly come up with a good enough reason


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 KingCracker wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Something equally stupid happened to my cousins daughter just recently. Her daughter is into... erm Im not sure what the style is called, but where she likes to dress up like a biker chick from the 50s? Anywho. She wore a pink bandanna to school to hold her hair up, and was told she HAD to take it off right now. She couldnt understand why and simply asked "OK, well what rule am I breaking for wearing this?" And so she was suspended and my cousin was told by the principal "Its because your daughter is showing gang colors"


fething.....ridiculous

I remember when i wore a bandana around campus as a social experiment, never got stopped once, while i knew several that did.
But yeah, schools have to be careful when it comes to gangs in all seriousness.

d-usa wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Something equally stupid happened to my cousins daughter just recently. Her daughter is into... erm Im not sure what the style is called, but where she likes to dress up like a biker chick from the 50s? Anywho. She wore a pink bandanna to school to hold her hair up, and was told she HAD to take it off right now. She couldnt understand why and simply asked "OK, well what rule am I breaking for wearing this?" And so she was suspended and my cousin was told by the principal "Its because your daughter is showing gang colors"


fething.....ridiculous

This is actually a very real deal. My wife works at a Elementary school, and there were 1st graders in fething gangs, targeting other kids in rival gangs. So while it may seem excessive at the surface, it is a real problem.

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And this was supposed to be quoted with Alf in the quote......very odd lol


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 Alfndrate wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And a pink bandana is what gang's colors?

And IF you can find a gang that uses a pink bandana as their colors, is there a chapter where this took place?

Big difference between 'you are representing the crips' and 'you have a generic pink bandana and that just may be gang related'. Administrators have the responsibility to know the difference and act accordingly. If they don't they need to be held accounatble.

I agree. I should also mention, that this girl goes to an upper class school, and they live in an area with a crime rate so low Ive honestly heard parents say and I quote " Gangs are only made up for TV" So yea, context and all.....I mean really? Id understand if she lived in a high crime low income area, but thats very much not the case. Not to mention, schools should at the very least, have some idea of the level of threat their students can hold. My cousins daughter is captain of the Cheer leading squad, makes honor roll every time, and volunteers at the school.

This situation is just a complete cluster feth of current events

She's obviously a menace to society.

Good kid doesnt mean ANYTHING to schools, they doal out punishment how they see fit. Like i said, Even though i was a good kid, I still got detention for small things(Like going off campus to get the paper i forgot)

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Good kid doesnt mean ANYTHING to schools, they doal out punishment how they see fit. Like i said, Even though i was a good kid, I still got detention for small things(Like going off campus to get the paper i forgot)

Truant!

Exactly, The teacher loved me but when i asked why she said "Well, I have to, i dont want to, those are the rules"

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Exactly, The teacher loved me but when i asked why she said "Well, I have to, i dont want to, those are the rules"

But during the school day, the school is responsible for a measure of your safety. You left the school grounds during school hours. Regardless of whether or not it was during a free period, lunch, independent study, what have you, the school needs to have a general idea of your whereabouts during the school day. Did you tell anyone you were leaving? Did you follow proper procedure for having to leave in the middle of the school day?

If not, you were a truant, whether you wanted to be one or not.

Most kids think they are in the right all the time. I am willing to bet there is more to the story of the bandana than your niece let on. The kids I like are the "good kids" who don't bring it up when I enforce the rules on them- I have a lot of respect for those kids and will try to do what I can for them when speaking on their behalf. In the classroom or corridor though, I do my best to be seen as impartial and evenhanded, which to kids generally means just enforcing simple rules, since the vast majority don't think about much past that, and all of them are obsessed with fairness.
At the end of the day school is one of the softest, most "fair" places you're ever likely to be. When students go into the workplace they quickly learn that life outside of school isn't any more logical or fair.

Unfortunately, parents usually take the kids side at face value. I promise you I have never taken a personal vendetta against a kid but I always tried my best to enforce the rules, because once we stop doing that, anarchy reigns. It might seem stupid to a non teacher, but when you've got 30 kids in front of you, they HAVE to do what you say, promptly and without question. This is the only way to get through what needs to be covered on the curriculum- discipline first, all else second.

And frankly, at a school in an upper class area, I am likely to be even stricter on behaviour, because small infractions if left unchallenged can lead to more and more pushing of boundaries until you have serious problems. This isn't because the kids are bad, it's because they are kids, and testing to see where the boundaries are is a perfectly normal activity for them.

 KingCracker wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And a pink bandana is what gang's colors?

And IF you can find a gang that uses a pink bandana as their colors, is there a chapter where this took place?

Big difference between 'you are representing the crips' and 'you have a generic pink bandana and that just may be gang related'. Administrators have the responsibility to know the difference and act accordingly. If they don't they need to be held accounatble.

I agree. I should also mention, that this girl goes to an upper class school, and they live in an area with a crime rate so low Ive honestly heard parents say and I quote " Gangs are only made up for TV" So yea, context and all.....I mean really? Id understand if she lived in a high crime low income area, but thats very much not the case. Not to mention, schools should at the very least, have some idea of the level of threat their students can hold. My cousins daughter is captain of the Cheer leading squad, makes honor roll every time, and volunteers at the school.

This situation is just a complete cluster feth of current events

The fact that there are stupid parents at this school does not change the context as much as you think it does.

Also: What in the world do you mean by "upper class school"? I've never once heard that descriptor for a school. I've heard of private schools, magnet schools, and public schools. But never "upper class school".

They live in an upper class area, and goes to the school in that area. Hence its an upper class school. Ive heard schools called that many times. Kind of like in neighboring Flint, those schools are lower class schools.

 KingCracker wrote:
They live in an upper class area, and goes to the school in that area. Hence its an upper class school. Ive heard schools called that many times. Kind of like in neighboring Flint, those schools are lower class schools.

Around here we have upper and lower class schools as well, although they are more based on color than income.

Fething racist state...

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Exactly, The teacher loved me but when i asked why she said "Well, I have to, i dont want to, those are the rules"

She was lying.

Yep. She wanted to because she hates you.

 kronk wrote:
Yep. She wanted to because she hates you.

Spoiler:

She hated all her students. They just didn't understand. They needed..."correction." Its important that kids are corrected.

 KingCracker wrote:
They live in an upper class area, and goes to the school in that area. Hence its an upper class school. Ive heard schools called that many times. Kind of like in neighboring Flint, those schools are lower class schools.

But you don't call them that when trying to describe them to someone who has just asked about magnet, public, or private schools.

Because upper class schools isn't a bloody description of anything besides the economic aspect of the area surrounding the school.
So which is it? Is it a magnet school, a public school, or a private school?

Because that actually does affect how they treat situations like this.

 Fifty wrote:

 dogma wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I could have sworn my high school cafeteria had metal butter knives, forks, and spoons.

We had plastic sporks.

But we also had a wood shop with a belt sander, table saw, and bandsaw.

And teacher supervision.

Students are supervised during lunch.