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I've got that in the pile.

Soulforge was a good read.

Some nice little touches, I liked the .... legacy ..... aspect they mentioned. Perhaps go some way towards explaining the RG from Angel Exterminatus and maybe even Shrike ?

Headtaker up next for me, then the above.

.. Really looking forwards to Skarsnik, always had a bot of a soft spot for the character -- and the current model is so sweet it can cause diabetes.
Possibly. If I was a digital reader I'd already have it. Enjoyed Baneblade a fair bit and loved his Richards and Klein books

i really enjoyed Fist of Demtrius...
my second favorite Space Wolves cameo, right behind The Emperor's Gift...

Skarsnik is a fun read so far, with a couple of nice nods to other Warhammer characters and descriptions based on actual GW sculpts you may have in your collection...

cheers
jah

 Manchu wrote:
Who are these people who wanted hardbacks? Did they also want people who don't want hardbacks to wait through mismatched trade paperbacks before, hopefully one day, seeing a mass market version?

Sorry but whoever posted that is willfully deluded.

Sorry just getting into this thread...but am I the only one that thinks Hard back editions of this series is cool?

GG

I guess leatherbound versions would also be cool. But let's say that making them meant the regular hardcover was pushed back by four months, followed in four further months by the trade, before finally arriving over a year later in MMPB. Not so cool.

Yes I think that's the main issue.. I and many others have 'lost the thread' as it were of the Heresy series, and have no interest at all in hardbacks.

I've loved the books, but loved them at £7.99 and to be honest don't think that a kind of 'pulp sci-fi' (even with really nice clothes on) should be priced any higher than that.

I have and will continue to refrain from buying the HH series books in any other format other than the original MM. Maybe I have bit of ocd, but in my library, I prefer my series to match in size. If they had started in HB I wouldn't buy them in MM. Its an aesthetic thing for me. That and an obvious $$$ grab by them.

generalgrog wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Who are these people who wanted hardbacks? Did they also want people who don't want hardbacks to wait through mismatched trade paperbacks before, hopefully one day, seeing a mass market version?

Sorry but whoever posted that is willfully deluded.

Sorry just getting into this thread...but am I the only one that thinks Hard back editions of this series is cool?

GG

Pretty much?

mjl7atlas wrote:I have and will continue to refrain from buying the HH series books in any other format other than the original MM. Maybe I have bit of ocd, but in my library, I prefer my series to match in size. If they had started in HB I wouldn't buy them in MM. Its an aesthetic thing for me. That and an obvious $$$ grab by them.

Solidarity my brother!

I have Mark of Calth in hb form (bought it at AdeptiCon) because the guy with the British accent sold me on it, and Battle of Calth is quickly becoming my favorite theatre of war in the heresy. The ideas behind it are well done, it's a nice quality dust jacket with awesome art, and the jacket art is on the hard cover, but none of that makes it truly worth the price tag. I have several hard backs from a recent book series that I picked up at Wal-Mart for 14 dollars (regular price 17). I'm finding it very hard to believe that the BL hardbacks cost 30 bucks to produce and ship.

I don't mind the hard backs, but I'm certainly not clamoring for more of them.. :-\

We're nothing but cattle to them. Little moo-moos with Dollars and Euros and Pounds painted on our flanks.

I'm part of the problem, though while I've severely cut back on my BL purchases, I had to have the second Macharius novel, which is a hardback. Same with the overhyped Bequin trilogy, must-have, must-read. Just when I thought I was out.. Yadda yadda.

I'm the same as many of the other posters on here; I bought the paperback HH novels almost on release and collected them all.
Then, suddenly, large-format hardback.

I steadfastly refuse to pay substantially more just because the typeface is bigger and it has a thick card cover, and worst of all they would look out of place next to my other HH novels; this offends my OCD!

There are two types of hardback actually, one is the thick card cover, the other has a proper dust jacket and sleeve, though both go for the same amount for some reason. When I got the first Macharius book, sleeve and dust jacket, but when I got AD-B's Grey Knight novel and Pariah, hardback, but with a sturdy stock cover minus sleeve, for the same price.

I feel a bit ripped off by BL on this matter.

Nice to see I'm not the only one who insists on collecting the books in their original format! The trade size is bad enough - too big to slip in my jacket pocket when I travel into London - and is really making my bookshelves look odd.

Like many others, my motivation for Black Library has all but dropped off - and I've emailed them telling them so.

Where once I would have been clamouring for new releases and eagerly anticipating each section of the HH series, now I couldn't really care. The lack of information, the hardback-to-paperback policy, the novellas, and the seemingly decreasing quality have all sapped my motivation.
And so, now I'm going elsewhere for my reading needs, rather than basically just Black Library as it once was. I've ordered Ex Heroes and High-Rise, and will start reading the Game of Thrones series too.
As for Black Library, I'm not sure. I think I'll either stop reading the HH series altogether and pick it back up once (read: if) it's finished, or I'll just wait the 9 months for the standard paperback. The latter is tiresome and prone to suffering from spoilers, however. I don't see myself picking up their other novels now either, except maybe the Warmaster series.

 Just Dave wrote:
Like many others, my motivation for Black Library has all but dropped off - and I've emailed them telling them so.

Did you get a reply?

 Just Dave wrote:

Where once I would have been clamouring for new releases and eagerly anticipating each section of the HH series, now I couldn't really care. The lack of information, the hardback-to-paperback policy, the novellas, and the seemingly decreasing quality have all sapped my motivation.

Same here.

I've already fallen behind, and I'm not even sure where I left off...

 Alpharius wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
Like many others, my motivation for Black Library has all but dropped off - and I've emailed them telling them so.

Did you get a reply?

Nope.

 Just Dave wrote:

Where once I would have been clamouring for new releases and eagerly anticipating each section of the HH series, now I couldn't really care. The lack of information, the hardback-to-paperback policy, the novellas, and the seemingly decreasing quality have all sapped my motivation.

Same here.

I've already fallen behind, and I'm not even sure where I left off...

I wouldn't even worry about it - and I don't think I would've said that before!

I'll join the chorus. No Black Library since Angel Exterminatus. I blocked their newsletter (the link to unsubscribe didn't work). I don't even remember when Betrayer comes out anymore. I have of course caught some spoilers about it, despite showing no interest in Black Library at all for months. I'm only here because I subscribed to this thread back before Black Library decided it wanted to sell less books.

I've gone back and read the first 5 (through Fulgrim) and remembered why I liked them so much.

Angel Exterminatus (MMPB) Jul 30, 2013
Betrayer (MMPB) Not yet listed.

Oh, well.

I am not morally opposed to buying BL books. It's just a fact that I won't buy as many HH books because the cost is significantly higher while the quality has not risen commensurately. I fully plan on getting some of them, even in hardcover, such as Unremembered Empire. But I would probably have purchased and read all of them, like I used to, without this silly hardcover switch over.

I bought the ebook versions of the Betrayer and Angel Exterminatus - good reads both. Betrayer is awesome.

Mark of Calth was like any anthology - ups and downs, but good overall.

I just hope they get on with it and start releasing more books. And get Chris Wraight and CL Werner and Rob Sanders writing will you? That will allow you to release Gav and Kyme back into the sea.

Ahhh I think I see the perspective issue. I didn't start getting into the HH series until I started purchasing the audio books. I now want to read the unabridged versions of the first three, and since I like the series so much wouldn't actually mind paying for the Hard Backs + I'm kind of a guy that likes collectibles. I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I guess if you had already purchased the MMPB, it may not seem worth it.

GG

For me, it's not that I can't afford it or so much that it's not worth it, but rather I don't feel I can justify paying £20 for a novel I was previously paying £8 for.
Not to mention by the time it's £8 I may not care for it or I may have already been spoiled as to what happens...

But I agree, as with most things, it's a matter of perspective.


Edit: Wait... I've not turned into the equivalent of one of those GW haters have I?

I find it a conundrum to hate GW for their business practices,but love tthe 40k universe and game. I can only hope if the rumours of a buy out are true and hope the company goes back to gaming as opposed to squeezing every last penny out of its market. I personally own several hundred BL books, several grand worth of their games, but I have closed the wallet since the GK release and wait (in vain) for sanity to reclaim GWs business side.

 Just Dave wrote:
For me, it's not that I can't afford it or so much that it's not worth it, but rather I don't feel I can justify paying £20 for a novel I was previously paying £8 for.
Not to mention by the time it's £8 I may not care for it or I may have already been spoiled as to what happens...

But I agree, as with most things, it's a matter of perspective.


Edit: Wait... I've not turned into the equivalent of one of those GW haters have I?

Hater!


It's a reasonable feeling. I've cut my expenditures quite a bit with the transition and I don't feel any worse off for it.

My youngest brother bought me a copy of "The Sundering" Omnibus after he ruined my copy of "Shadow King". I can't be mad about that, as I'd not read "Malekith" or "Caledor".

I stand by the fact that I feel "Shadow King" was a fantastic read...but after having read the other two, I'm now inclined to say "Shadow King" has a bit of the "Empire" syndrome to it. The other two books feel a bit weak in comparison.
That's not to say they are bad books or anything, but I feel that "Shadow King" is far superior to "Malekith" or "Caledor".

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/promethean-sun.html

if you missed it before.

Ho-hum, let those who missed it the first time round rejoice!

Do you know if it will be available in MMPB format later? £15 is a lot of money for 128 pages.

I very much doubt it. It might finds its way into an omnibus, but that's about it.

 Just Dave wrote:
Do you know if it will be available in MMPB format later? £15 is a lot of money for 128 pages.

I do not believe so.

With the possible exception that in the very long term it might get a reprint in an anthology ... but that would be quite literally years away IMO.

That's a guess however, allbeit a somewhat informed one.

Dang, I'll give it a miss then. Thanks for the info, guys.

Available for the first time since its Limited Edition release, Nick Kyme's Horus Heresy novella is presented in a stunning hardback format.

Neither stunning not surprising!