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2013/08/10 07:24:02
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Lords of Mars has gone up for sale on iBooks for $11.99...
i enjoyed the first one, so this one should be good...
the cover has the Black Templars in action...
off to read the first few chapters before passing out...
gotta get up early to surf...
cheers
jah
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2013/08/10 14:43:40
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Psh, no one reads these threads I just lurk for the pretty cover images and the arguments about book format.
And here I thought I was the only one that page down'ed through the thread once or twice a week for the book covers! With the switch to their current release format, I don't frankly buy the books anymore and have only read one or two during coffee excursions to the local store this year. In case a cover really does catch my eye, I don't want to catch any spoilers in the thread text.
2013/08/14 10:23:47
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Finished Seventh Retribution which overall was .... solid. Few cool moments and some nice characters/ideas and scenes, and it was quite ncie to actually read about the Fists actually kind of winning ( ... or do they dun dun duh ! ) for once instead of being a punchbag.
with only the last tale to go. Which was previously released as an audio book ( which I enjoyed, although Slayer of the Storm God was better, best audio book they've done IMO).
Whilst tales 2 and 3 have both been enjoyable enough -- the 2nd one especially having some cool ideas in it -- for my money Mr. Reynolds' story is the best by a clear mile.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/14 14:03:41
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Good to hear about the IF. I just started Ahriman in Exile and it's the exact opposite regarding the eponymous sorcerer. I suspect John French purposefully does this to frustrate the reader so that when Ahriman finally lets loose it's all the more awesome. Only ~60 pages in but the writing is pretty good with flashes of brilliance. For example, Ahriman is described thusly "now he was only a shadow cast by the light of his memory." Very nice.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/14 14:15:08
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Manchu wrote: Good to hear about the IF. I just started Ahriman in Exile and it's the exact opposite regarding the eponymous sorcerer. I suspect John French purposefully does this to frustrate the reader so that when Ahriman finally lets loose it's all the more awesome. Only ~60 pages in but the writing is pretty good with flashes of brilliance. For example, Ahriman is described thusly "now he was only a shadow cast by the light of his memory." Very nice.
that is a pretty cool line. Does the book link up in anyway with the czevak novel atlas infernal? I always wanted a sequel to that.
The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Manchu wrote: Good to hear about the IF. I just started Ahriman in Exile and it's the exact opposite regarding the eponymous sorcerer. I suspect John French purposefully does this to frustrate the reader so that when Ahriman finally lets loose it's all the more awesome. Only ~60 pages in but the writing is pretty good with flashes of brilliance. For example, Ahriman is described thusly "now he was only a shadow cast by the light of his memory." Very nice.
that is a pretty cool line. Does the book link up in anyway with the czevak novel atlas infernal? I always wanted a sequel to that.
No.
... ..hmmm.. not too much of a spoiler but this story/book is set somewhat earlier than the Czevak novel.
IIRC the author was quite keen to revisit Czevak in the future if given the chance.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/14 14:27:24
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
reds8n wrote: not too much of a spoiler but this story/book is set somewhat earlier than the Czevak novel
I have no idea how early/late Czevak is set but I have the impression that Ahriman In Exile is quite early on, just comparing the character presented in the beginning of the novel with his entry in the Codex.
Czevak is set around the time of the 13th Black Crusade.
Course when the warp is involved things are not necessarily quite that simple.
I would suggest that you're pretty spot on with regards to your assessment thus far.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/14 18:54:04
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
I never liked Atlas: Infernal. It was pretty much, "I want to write a Dr Who story in the 40k universe."
I wasn't a fan of Slayer of the Storm God or Orcslayer either, actually. They both had the same sort of sense to them, tying back to Atlas Infernal. Except this time it was, "I want to write a Cthulhu/Lovecraft story in warhammer fantasy."
In cheerier news, I recently finished reading Gav Thorpes 'Path of the Outcast.'
Truth is, I only read it out of a feeling of obligation, since 'Path of the Seer' was as boring as a boring thing. However, it was MUCH better than the previous 2 books. You see a lot of Eldar socierty outwith the codices, with a great insight into the life of Eldar Pirates and their relationships between the Craftworld and the Dark Eldar.
The idea for the "Path of the Craftworld Eldar" stories originally seemed to be telling the same story from 3 different points of view. A bit like the 'Vantage Point' film.
So, Path of the Warrior was fine, fairly implausible at parts (Dreamer > Poet > Warrior > Exarch in a year or so and a total of 2 battles), but it gave you a good run through of the life of an Eldar warrior.
Path of the Seer basically just blurred into Warrior, it literally felt as if I was reading the exact same story again. Completely forgettable and fortunately, due to the nature of the story. Completely skippable.
Path of the Outcast fixed the forebearers mistakes. The story from the previous 2 novels are effectively bookends, or a framing story. About 80% of the book feels completely new. Worth reading if you want to know more about the Eldar.
2013/08/14 21:36:35
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Compel wrote: I never liked Atlas: Infernal. It was pretty much, "I want to write a Dr Who story in the 40k universe.
Yes, I got that exact vibe myself, but it seemed to work. Well I thoughtso!
The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Well, yeah, I guess. I'm not that huge a fan of Dr Who style stories myself. In my mind, "pull something out of your rear end" is not a satisfactory way to extract characters from a dangerous situation.
And then, go on to do it for a further umpteen times per story.
The Chekhovs Gun trope exists for a perfectly good reason, consarnit!
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2013/08/14 23:17:05
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
reds8n wrote: not too much of a spoiler but this story/book is set somewhat earlier than the Czevak novel
I have no idea how early/late Czevak is set but I have the impression that Ahriman In Exile is quite early on, just comparing the character presented in the beginning of the novel with his entry in the Codex.
I'll provide a brief synopsis of the story:
Marine A: Why are you doing that?
Ahriman: I can't tell you (X-Files music in the background)
Marine A: OK, I'll follow you and come to do what you're doing anyway.
Marine B: Hmm.. I know we are no longer loyalist marines, but I don't really think of myself as evil. Do we really need to be: eating these brains/helping our mate get possessed by a daemon/killing innocents?
Marine A: Sure you can't tell us why we are doing this?
Ahriman: Nope
Marine A & B: Oh well *shrug* nothing better to do!
Amazon just recommended something called "Honour Imperialis" by ADB, Rob Sanders and Steve Lyons, 880 pages supposedly due May next year in paperback. No other details though..any ideas?
2013/08/15 23:10:18
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
azreal13 wrote: You're wrong in calling the flaw the Black Rage, the Rage is a consequence of his death, the flaw it is alluded to that he suffered from was the the Red Thirst, hence the close association of the Bangles with vampirism.
Couple that with the very obvious mutation of a ruddy great pair of wings, and apparent psychic ability which may well be similar to the Emperor's in that he can project the image of himself as he wishes you to see him, and it is easy to form an argument that he wasn't necessarily any more perfect than the other Primarchs, but just had better PR.
As I've mentioned, Horus obviously felt his brother was ripe to fall, if pushed in the right way, and the events in Fear To Tread show that he may well have been right.
Fear to Tread depicts Horus specifically demanding that Erebus kill Sanguinus rather than attempt to turn him, out of a belief that, of all the Primarchs, Sanguinus' was the least likely to be turned away from the Emperor.
So... nah. He really was just "the gak." As far as him having the ability to latent wow people into thinking he's great- well, that wouldn't work on a Primarch. They're more or less immune to even the Emperor's psychic charms. So, it's telling that Sanguinus is considered mackdaddy supreme below Horus among the Primarchs.
2013/08/16 06:00:50
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Death of Integrity, by Guy Haley, is up on the iBooks store...
it's a Space Marine Battles novel for $7.99...
Blood Drinkers, Novamarines, and Mechanicus on a Space Hulk...
i was very impressed with Baneblade, and even more impressed with Skarsnik (and Fantasy definitely comes 2nd to 40K for me, usually)...
just downloaded the new one, and i'm really looking forward to reading it...
cheers
jah
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Available for commissions.
2013/08/16 22:49:28
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Eusebius wrote: Amazon just recommended something called "Honour Imperialis" by ADB, Rob Sanders and Steve Lyons, 880 pages supposedly due May next year in paperback. No other details though..any ideas?
I checked the page, it said: Omnibus of three novels featuring the Imperial Guard - Dead Men Walking, Cadian Blood, and Redemption Corps.
The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Compel wrote: Well, yeah, I guess. I'm not that huge a fan of Dr Who style stories myself. In my mind, "pull something out of your rear end" is not a satisfactory way to extract characters from a dangerous situation.
And then, go on to do it for a further umpteen times per story.
The Chekhovs Gun trope exists for a perfectly good reason, consarnit!
Yeah it did have a lot of that. I thought the overall basis was nice, the ship, the gates and
Spoiler:
killing that giant deamon with the void fetus thing.
It could definitely use a lot less "sonic screwdriver gets us out of the problem" stuff. The short story published in one of the black library games day booklets was kind of cool. He stumbles across a genestealer cult on a demonworld. Could have been the setup of an entire book, I thought the premise was very novel
The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
It's a while since I've checked this thread in detail, so I may have missed the answer to this question and I'm sorry if that's the case. For the sake of speed and ease though, it's Kitch's question time.
I've just seen this "new" Space Marines: Omnibus advertised and wanted to know if anyone has any info on which chapters are represented? I'm crossing my fingers that there'll be some Sons of Orar & Scythes of the Emperor in there! The cover lists SW, BA, IF, BT, Sallies, UM and Deathwatch, and clearly there'll be Howling Griffons in there judging by the cover.
That's three fairly long books in themselves, and its a long time since I read them.
I'm fairly sure neither chapter you mention by name gets any attention, think there's some of Sarah Caldwell's Silver Skull stuff, otherwise its as stated on the cover AFAICR
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/20 16:42:02
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
We know you shouldn’t choose favourites from your children, but this week’s Munitorum eBook is our pick of the bunch so far.
The ork race could never be accused of being unimaginative when it comes to weapons of war, boasting as it does gravity inverting rays, and weapons that use the smaller greenskin sub-species as munitions. There is, however, one weapon delivery system that has become infamous with the enemies of the orks, and a firm favourite with Tankbustas everywhere. We refer of course, to the Bomb Squig.
For the first time, you can find out all about these violent and enthusiastic creatures, and their use
in the Ork way of war in Munitorum: Bomb Squigs.
Also out this week, two very different Space Marine heroes.
Index Astartes: Lone Wolves is the first instalment in our weekly Space Marines series to focus on the Wolves of Fenris. Space Wolves history is full of great sagas about these solitary warriors, seeking glory or death at the hands of the mightiest foe they can find. This eBook explores the origins of the Lone Wolves, from the dark days of the Horus Heresy, when the first of their kind fought alongside Russ himself, as well as other famous Lone Wolves from the more recent history of the Chapter.
Speaking of seeking death at the hands of some warp-spawned horror, they don’t come much more warp-spawned than this guy. Lucius The Eternal is the latest hero(see also – villain) to star in the Warlords of the Dark Millennium series. The eBook contains brand new background on the favoured of the Dark Prince, as well as new annotated artwork of his weapons and armour.
It’s usually best for sanity’s sake, not to examine in too much detail, the artefacts of a former Emperor’s Children Captain, but if you’ve ever wanted to know more about Lucius’s elegant power sword, or how he acquired his wickedly sentient whip, it’s all in there. There are also full rules for using Lucius in your games of Warhammer 40,000. (image)
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/21 20:38:35
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Sorry, mate. they all look like this:
Heroes of the Space Marines (Anthology
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Haven't read any myself but followed a few threads here and there with interest.
the following, courtesy of Mr. ( I assume, apologies otherwise) Sandlemad from Warseer is... well ... you'll see
Spoiler:
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Malcador to Dorn
You brothers - such a nest of rivalries. I warned him to make you sisters, that it would make things more civilised. He thought I was joking. I wasn't.
and later on ..
Rogal Dorn, Malcador and Constantin Valdor discuss the war. Dorn is concerned about the war in the webway, saying that it's like building a fortress on a foundation of madness.
They speculate on what primarchs they can trust to come to Terra. Dorn knows the Lion is doing his own thing and won't answer. Russ is where Valdor left him after Prospero, so Dorn is hoping on him getting through.
The Khan though, Dorn admits he never knew him and Malcador says he was meant to be Dorn's opposite, an uncertainty where Dorn was certain. They discuss Nikaea and reluctantly conclude that the Khan was always closest to Horus and Magnus, which Valdor holds against him. They decide to summon him to Terra and think that having Russ and the Khan at Dorn's side would make Horus think twice.
Ilya, the Munitorum general, is playing go with the Khan. He's surprisingly casual and makes an interesting comparison between regicide and go: in regicide, there's one trajectory, to kill the emperor. In go, there are many targets and threats to watch for, and you can retreat and start again. Ilya notes a certain defensiveness in him and thinks that the Scars have a quiet need to show they're not barbarians.
Nikaea comes up again and the Khan makes a nice remark about how the judgement makes no difference to him or what he does, but he'd rather his straight-laced brothers were spared a difficult choice.
Shiban brings the bodies of the dead Scars on Phemus to his apothecary and has them identified as being killed by other marines. Something's up, which is indeed clearer having read The Serpent Beneath, thank you Nineswords!
Bjorn is getting his ship ready to face the Alpha Legion. He feels there's something strange about them turning, unlike the obvious examples of the World Eaters, Iron Warriors and Death Guard. The Wolves definitely seem to have been seriously mauled at Prospero in terms of numbers. Also, for all that they're supposed to be (highly contested) executioners, Bjorn still wonders if killing other marines will get any easier.
Yesugei is leaving Chogoris and definitely knows something is seriously wrong with the warp.
Finally, Torghun and some 30-40 other khans gather at the orders of their noyan-khan, who seems to be a Lord Commander or Chapter Master. He informs them that the Great Crusade has been thrown into to turmoil, that a primarch has turned on the imperium, destroyed an innocent world, and killed one of his brothers. It falls to them to go after the treacherous Leman Russ and destroy him. Well played, Alpharius.
Blimey eh ?
Looking forwards to a physical copy of this mroe and more !
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/08/22 08:09:32
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
I can't wait to read it in 'legacy' edition 2 years from now
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
...
I just lurk for the pretty cover images and the arguments about book format. 
