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 Kroothawk wrote:
Is the 16 tiles one set, or is it possible to mix it from all available unlocked tiles?

I feel that it could be a different set per 16, seeing as he is selling them by the 16, I don't see a reason why he couldn't do that.

I would love to have grasslands and ruined city, they could go so well together if done right.

32.000$ passed, early bird offers almost gone.

I'm glad I got the 4x8 early bird in. I was scared my computer at work wouldn't allow me to use kickstarter becuse of silly filtering.

<-- is Skirmisher #95

Almost missed it.. stupid meeting about email servers...

Even with a goal of $80k, I'm betting you'll have that within 24 hours... This one's gonna do quite well, I reckon.

I would love a hi-tech or jungle themed tile set, but the urban one I can make work or even just a grassland.

A tau-ish one would be a instant buy for me, and would work well for infinity as well.

Yup everyone needs a board to play on. Regardless of the game mini system, its one of the reasons I hated seeing geo-hex go under.

 YotsubaSnake wrote:
I'm glad I got the 4x8 early bird in. I was scared my computer at work wouldn't allow me to use kickstarter becuse of silly filtering.

>_>

Same...

I wonder if the urban themed tiles will work for Bolt Action?

 BrookM wrote:
And I pledged, early bird and all that. That money was supposed to go to Raging Heroes, but this is too good to pass up on!

this....and they took far to long!

 DaveC wrote:
They've updated the add on costs - shot myself in the foot there! extra 16 tiles gone from $108 to $135 - ah well best to get the correct prices out now I doubt with the tight costs that Secret Weapon could afford to carry any errors in pricing later particularly not a 10% one.

It made me bump to the $225 level. But that is with being able to check it out at adepticon, and having planned on picking up a RoB. I'm in no rush, so this seemed good.

 whalemusic360 wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
They've updated the add on costs - shot myself in the foot there! extra 16 tiles gone from $108 to $135 - ah well best to get the correct prices out now I doubt with the tight costs that Secret Weapon could afford to carry any errors in pricing later particularly not a 10% one.

It made me bump to the $225 level. But that is with being able to check it out at adepticon, and having planned on picking up a RoB. I'm in no rush, so this seemed good.

Should have a massive game on these once we get our tiles Take control of several tables at a flgs in the Canton area

early bird is gone

Tibbsy wrote:
Based on the current exchange rate that I just googled; and with a little bit more maths. If it's $125 for a 4'x4', in GBP that works out at £80. £5 per tile.

For the 4'x8', in GBP that works out at £146. £4.50 per tile.

Obviously this doesn't factor in shipping, but DAMN dude, that is CHEAP!

You must have a different idea about what is 'cheap' and what is not.

It's only $125 for the first 100 (none left), all the other kits are $150. Which including VAT and import fee would make it a lot more expensive then the GW Realms of Battle board per square foot.

Even with the latest update for UK and EU shipping the $150 set (which I assume is the final retail price) is (per square foot) only slightly cheaper then a GW Realms of Battle board (~2.5% cheaper) and slightly more expensive then a Ex-Illis game board (~5.5% more expensive). $250 set is cheaper then a GW Realms of Battle board (~19% cheaper).

Addons are really weirdly priced. $135 for an extra set of tiles, 2 extra sets would be $270 while ordering the 2 set pledge only costs $250...

As others have mentioned there are issues that are not price related:
#1: Tile height makes it not compatible with GW's Realms of Battle, 1/4" (6.35mm) vs 10mm. This is more then a standard base in height difference.
#2: 1'x1' tiles create more 'sector' lines on the table. A 4'x4' table has 9 lines running across the table, with RoB that's only two lines. Lines are often obfuscated with terrain, two lines are doable, 9 lines makes it a rather full board. For games were range guessing is part of the game, it is suddenly a lot easier to guess a range when you have so many reference lines. To be honest I would like to see a painted and flocked table before I can say how 'bad' it is.
#3: Storage/transport, the GW RoB boards come with a nice fitting bag, making storage/transport rather easy.

Of course there are good things about the setup:
A.) Modularity (and eventually range) is better then RoB.
B.) The connecting pieces do seem better and stronger then the RoB set.

As I already have a GW RoB board and enough ideas to populate a couple more. I'm very happy with my RoB boards so see no reason why I would move to another game board system that is incompatible with my existing system. I generally use terrain to customize my gaming experience and the tiles not so much. BUT, I'm interested in the urban and trench boards for a specific table type (Cityfight and Vraks), I'm curious to the design of the tiles. Speaking of tile designs, what of the designs on the first 16 tile set? I've seen only four different tile designs, where's the rest ;-)

Will Mantic continue to distribute the tiles after the KS? If you can get a retail price of €99 for the EU market and local stores will carry them, I can certainly see a market for them in the EU. Games that use a 4'x4' board are certainly popular these days.

Almost at the $40k!

I can only afford a 4x4 at the moment.. but that's more than enough for me for now.. going to be turning that into 4 2x2 demo boards

Hoping the desert boards get unlocked

Cergorach... your conversion of inches to mm is slightly off... 1/4" is equal to 6.35 mm not .635mm...

No 6'x4' option?

No generic field boards until $200k?

I'll pledge if both those things come to pass and there's also options for hill and river tiles. If not, it's not what I want.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Cergorach... your conversion of inches to mm is slightly off... 1/4" is equal to 6.35 mm not .635mm...

Your right, typo. Was going for 0.635 cm, but I didn't want to really confuse the Imperial system users ;-)

 scarletsquig wrote:
No 6'x4' option?

No generic field boards until $200k?

I'll pledge if both those things come to pass and there's also options for hill and river tiles. If not, it's not what I want.

Split a wargamer and skirmisher with someone if the options you like come up.

It's still somewhat silly not to provide what is *probably* the biggest single market segment with an appropriate package deal... I can understand not doing packages of every conceivable size (e.g. no separate 3x3 board for malifaux players etc) but not making a 6'x4' board bundle available is a bit silly. Might make the difference in keeping my pledge or dropping it to me, for example. Not sure, I still might go for it but I don't like paying for stuff I'm not going to be using anyway.

You're still paying $40 less to get two more feet of board.

I'm also wondering how the tiles are coming to close to the same per square foot. I'm seeing $290 USD for 6x4 vs $250 for 8x4. That's a significant discount per square foot ($12.08/ft vs $7.81/ft).

I have a realms of battle board, and fully believe that 1x1 tiles will store much easier, even without a bag.

I think that comparing more lines to more variety and more not being forced to play on a table dominated by hills plays to an advantage for secret weapon. The disadvantage to guessing range doesn't factor in for me. I consider premeasuring far superior as a game mechanic, and miss it greatly when I play games like Malifaux.

A big advantage as a malifaux player is that this easily makes 3x3 tables, which you need to work to do on realms of battle.

So I guess, the kickstarter is only about complete sets of 16 tiles of one theme, no mixing, just adding another set. Correct?

BTW 50% passed in less than 4 hours.

And... I'm back but I'm sure you'll understand that I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up now

The Kickstarter is about 16 tile sets - yes - BUT if you pledge at Wargamer you can choose any TWO unlocked themes.

The mini-themes, Fields and Desert, *MIGHT* be available in 8 tile sets -- I'm working out the logistics now -- but if they unlock they WILL be available as full 16 tile sets, but they won't have 16 unique tile designs.

There is no 4x6' option -- but as has been pointed out, you get more board for less money... and you can split 3 tile sets to make TWO 4x6' tables for less than $200/ea so... that's awesome.

And now back to catch up with comments and messages because... HOLY COW THANK YOU!

 misterjustin wrote:
There is no 4x6' option -- but as has been pointed out, you get more board for less money... and you can split 3 tile sets to make TWO 4x6' tables for less than $200/ea so... that's awesome.

Sorry but though that is all well and good when you know two other guys who want to get in on this KS, if you don't, you're out of luck. I just don't see what the issue is with doing that at a distribution level with the amount of interest there would be in 6x4 boards. Oh well, your product, your party. I'm dropping my pledge for now though - didn't have one of the early ones anyway and the price point isn't quite there for me (since I'd have no use whatsoever for 25% of what I'd be buying...).

 Valhallan42nd wrote:
You're still paying $40 less to get two more feet of board which is extra tiles to switch up your layout.

 CptJake wrote:

 Valhallan42nd wrote:
You're still paying $40 less to get two more feet of board which is extra tiles to switch up your layout.

I generally play on 3x3 tables, and went in at Wargamer for this reason. More Variety is a good thing.


Though I do think with the Generic Field only being 8 tiles, you should just make it a half pack (if possible). It'd be a good addon way for the folks who only want 4x6 to get it.

Fair enough - but the 4x4' option allows us to offer the product to ALL of the tabletop markets, and not specifically the 4x6' option.

And no use for those extra tiles? A lower price than any competing product, and more options is always useful -- because with 32 tiles you can change the layout every single day FOR YEARS and never play the same board twice. That makes a big difference when you're using the same table for most of your games.

I agree it is a bit odd of a decision, given that 40K is a 4' x 6' world, but, given what he's already said and given how well this campaign is already doing... I'm thinking he'll be fine!

Considering gw's offering is 350, this is pretty awsome priceing.

And what's a bit funny for me is that 40k is also split among 4x6' and 4x8' gamers -- although the former is certainly more common. This is why GW offers the expansion on their board.

But if I can't sell someone on the value of getting more layout options at a lower cost, with a comparable quality, matching terrain and bases, and long-term support for more products in the line... I need to be trying harder. And I will

4' x 8' was the 'standard' size when I started 40K back when 2nd edition launched.

I'm not sure when they transitioned over to 4' x 6'.