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Fair enough!

I'll be staying in until the end, and probably even end up committing here - but WHEN (not if!) we get this thing waaaaay up there, maybe it will offer more to people who helped fund this project vs. someone buying it down the road via 'regular' retail options.

Absolutely! I kid you not, if we do something insane like break $500k I'll start throwing in resin goodies like a madman. True story. Because at that point I probably won't unlock more themes as we'd be looking at 2 years worth of production -- so, yeah, freebies at 500k + is probably the right answer for that.

 misterjustin wrote:
Let me leave these here though....

http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/images/UrbanClean8.jpg

http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/images/UrbanClean16.jpg

Are those the specific tile quantities you're planning for the two sets? If so, I'd get rid of one of the T-junctions from the 8 tile set and replace it with a straight piece.

There are 8 unique tile designs in the 16 tile set -- the second photo shows what's coming in the 16 tile set. I still need to work out the particulars of the 24 tile set as it means breaking down the tiles again.

One thing to keep in mind with the "SWT vs ROB" discussion is that for some folks they will fulfill two completely separate functions.

If I would only be playing WFB, FoW, and probably even Warmachine or 40K, I personally wouldn't consider much practical difference between the two boards. Yeah, it's nice to be able to do more customization with smaller boards but both would work the same. Other than aesthetics I don't think there is much difference between the initial design that the KS launched with and a RoB board.

Where this KS becomes a much better option for me are skirmish games, especially Infinity. Compared to Warmachine and 40K, Infinity really is a game of inches that relies on cover more than anything and being able to set up great city sections full of buildings and streets filled with scatter terrain just gives me something that I could never get from a RoB board.

 d-usa wrote:
Where this KS becomes a much better option for me are skirmish games, especially Infinity. Compared to Warmachine and 40K, Infinity really is a game of inches that relies on cover more than anything and being able to set up great city sections full of buildings and streets filled with scatter terrain just gives me something that I could never get from a RoB board.

I wholly agree on this bit right here. If the city scape isn't looking too sci-fi or high tech it will make for an excellent 7TV / 7OMBIETV board.

I just anted up from the earlybird 4x4 to the 6x4. 'Dat urban streets board...

Yeah I also feel that the city scape could be great for... odd uses shall we call them? Like playing rpg's with miniatures.

Is it possible to throw in your regular product line items as bonus addons towards this? Or would that go against KS rules?

I could see some bundled items at some form of discount from your regular prices being something to convince those who are already pledged to kick in some more money.

Just a thought.

I can offer more of the SWM catalog as add-on items, and I'm hoping to get a LOT of the catalog into the pledge manager, so look for that when things wrap up.

Frankly, I'm hoping for add-on sales to help cover the cost of the design, packaging, and production of the tiles as I'm still on the hook for all of that. So, please, feel free to buy one of everything I currently make

 Aerethan wrote:
Is it possible to throw in your regular product line items as bonus addons towards this? Or would that go against KS rules?

I could see some bundled items at some form of discount from your regular prices being something to convince those who are already pledged to kick in some more money.

Just a thought.

Actually, would it be possible to buy single tiles? I'm sure that some people will want more of just one of the tiles you are going to make. This would be a great add-on.

Oooh, I do like the idea of offering single tiles as addons to those who've already bought in to full sets.

I will be making at least some single tiles available -- but not until after all of the pledges have shipped. Those single tiles will take up a LOT of space in our little warehouse and require an inventory system to manage. One big project at a time, thankyouvermuch.

I wonder if the pass is going to slow down and we will not get past the 400k. With Acon tomorrow I think that he can really drum up a ton of support then maybe I'm wrong.

griffen127 wrote:
I wonder if the pass is going to slow down and we will not get past the 400k. With Acon tomorrow I think that he can really drum up a ton of support then maybe I'm wrong.

And not really sure what you're trying to say there...

The 'pass'?

'pace' I'm guessing.

Pace I think

Edit : Ninja'ed

I guess Acon is Adepticon too.

Kids these days!

Anyway, this one has made $128K in 4 days, and is on pace to clear $600K, according to Kicktraq's oh so inaccurate projections.

I think it will be OK!

 misterjustin wrote:

Spoiler:

And straight away (no pun intended) I can see the issue with not having a corner. That cross-roads towards the bottom of the pic has two streets that go no where and just stop.

No, they allow access to the pedestrian precinct for delivery vehicles in the early hours of the morning when nobody is about

Sweet lord I... I might actually get involved in a Kickstarter

I guess the thought is that those go to your car parks, roller-door driveways, and vehicle access to the pedestrian malls. - Putting a semi-realistically-sized building on the 4 tiles in the middle of that table would both give you a very small city building (by RL as opposed to wargaming standards) and also severely restrict your playing area since everything else, vehicles, etc would have to happen 'round the outside..

28/32mm tables are already a severe abstraction of size. Using realistically-scaled buildings on city streets rather than more abstract urban outdoor areas like Malls and kiosks just highlights it all the more unless you use them as a table edge.

An elegant solution to some of these issues would be if Justin were able to offer additional "straight roads" in sets of 4 or 8 or summat.

30% (which I consider extreme especially since our only distributor in Canada closed (I don't think Meeplemart would stock RoB boards)) would still net me at 243$ plus my good ol' close to 15% taxes.

Plus this haz a cityes! Moar boardz!

Actually, the more I look at the roads the more I think it should be a 4-way, a T junction and a corner.

 misterjustin wrote:
I did catch a question about the urban tiles - the sidewalks are presently being modeled 2" wide (50mm ) which leave us an 8" road -- enough to fit two Chimeras side-by-side... if only just.

Thanks for the answer. Good stuff to know.

 misterjustin wrote:
Absolutely! I kid you not, if we do something insane like break $500k I'll start throwing in resin goodies like a madman. True story. Because at that point I probably won't unlock more themes as we'd be looking at 2 years worth of production -- so, yeah, freebies at 500k + is probably the right answer for that.

This is the sort of stuff people like to hear.

I'm guessing that it will reach $300-350k from here.

That'll be great, unlocking the Urban Streets (Damaged), Generic and possibly the Ruined Temple.

I'd rather it funded on the side of caution rather than unlocked too much so that SWM eye is firmly on delivering the first three themes as soon as practicable

It's nigh impossible to tell WTF will actually happen the last week. There is always a rush, but sometimes a mad BOOM!! and other times just a decent bump.

One of the three (do we need three?) straight sections can be a corner.

Straight sections are infinitely more useful than 90 degree corners.

Corners do not fit into cities of this day and age. Down with corners!