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I am talking about the movie "Prometheus" from 2012, the Alien prequel.

So what was wrong with it? It got 7/10 grades and whenever I read about it people call it abomination. Why is that? I personally love the movie, except for few really stupid things ( like those two scientists that got lost, breading alien oxygen and going on trip to another planet without some kind of military protection... ) I think that the movie was fine.

So why people hated it?

Honestly?

I have no idea.

A lot of the hate came from people who were basically whining "Fallible human beings making human mistakes? In MY Hollywood movie? HERESY!" as most of the "stupid" mistakes (the survivors attempting to outrun the spaceship, the scientists getting lost) were actually easily explainable: they were under stress, and people make mistakes when they're under stress.

I loved it myself.

A lot of people were disappointed with it because they thought it was going to be a direct prequel...even though Ridley Scott said it wasn't going to be one. There were a lot of unanswered questions, and people hate that stuff. Personally, I thought it was pretty flippin' awesome.

I thought it great myself, but I think that again, some people are a little butt hurt (chest hurt maybe??) about it not being a direct prequel.

Personally, I kinda see it as a bit of a direct prequel, because to me, the strain of Alien discovered on that particular planet adapted in a manner suited to that planet. To me, this can mean that the Aliens from LV 426 are from a different "factory" and it was this one that was discovered by the Predators (if you take AvP into canon as well) and were brought to Terra.

By "direct prequel", I meant people thought the end would explain what happened on LV-426 before the events of Alien

I knew it wasn't a direct prequel and I found to be incredibly flawed. Just do a search for Prometheus, there is a 20 page thread hiding around here from when it was released.

To me it was simply that the character's interactions were ridiculous. I could pick a better scientific team from the tellers at my local Costco.

I midly enjoyed it, once I switched into teenage slasher appreciation mode. Which tells a lot, since I was expecting something along the quality level of Alien 1 or 2.

Personnaly, I wish they would have re-made Alien 3 based on one of the original scripts...

Well for me I certainly don't think it was awful, but it was disappointing.

I liked the idea of exploring the jockey race but I found all the Chariot of the Gods stuff to be rather cliched. Not to mention that the explanation for the actual xenomorphs was unsatisfying on many levels.

Oh and the sub plot about Weyland was daft as well.

ZOMG SO BUETFULL SO WUNDERUS SO PEREFECT




Must touch, must feel...


That scene was just so stupid.

It was not claustrophobic.

It did not feature enough Peter Weyland.

Noomi Rapace fell very slightly short as the main character.

Idris Elba did not have enough screen time.

There was not enough build up for some of the suspense.

I still liked it, and give it 8/10.

Isn't the two-finger gesture a British thing?

Is it not a thing anywhere else?

 purplefood wrote:
Is it not a thing anywhere else?

Never seen it in America, we prefer one finger to two.

Only thing i didnt like was the alien just not appearing(I mean after the alien abortion) ever again.


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Whoops, I mean having very little payoff.

mega_bassist wrote:A lot of people were disappointed with it because they thought it was going to be a direct prequel...even though Ridley Scott said it wasn't going to be one. There were a lot of unanswered questions, and people hate that stuff. Personally, I thought it was pretty flippin' awesome.

This. People got themselves thinking it was gonna be one movie and then it was a different movie. Not that I don't think there's a lot of reasons to not like the movie. Lots of brain dead writer moments.

Breotan wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Honestly?

I have no idea.

A lot of the hate came from people who were basically whining "Fallible human beings making human mistakes? In MY Hollywood movie? HERESY!" as most of the "stupid" mistakes (the survivors attempting to outrun the spaceship, the scientists getting lost) were actually easily explainable: they were under stress, and people make mistakes when they're under stress.

I loved it myself.

Basically this, and the fact it wasn't a direct prequel and had an open end (Which was intended I'm pretty sure for what should be a trilogy)

Some of the casting didn't help it either (The Scottish women was terrible)

Oh Great Ridley Scott, how you betrayed us with the abomination that was Prometheus!
I waited two years for this…
*Approximately 27 jump the shark moments. The whole thing was incredibly disjointed. No character development and all the characters acted, strangely. The movie didn’t follow a coherent path.
*No one was motivated to act like they did. It wasn’t logical.
-The map guy not knowing where they were at…ok…
-Look I am a cool biologist on an alien ship on an alien planet. Now there’s a scary alien snake that just appeared. I know, I’ll give it a belly rub.
-Engineer in the beginning: creating life by dissolving? Ok, it doesn’t work that way.
-Engineers guiding humanity for at least several thousand years, then deciding they need to go by by?
-Why do we have this crack team on the super ship not knowing why they are there? Why the secret mission, which wasn’t a big deal but oh so mysterious…ew scary…no, just stupid.
-Why the hell did the android do anything it did? Not logical.
-Why did you bring an Engineer helmet/head into the ship in a non quarantine area? Have you people not seen the movie Alien???
-Why is the android hostile towards its dad?
-Why do the actual command crew immediately decide to ram the enemy ship without blinking? Are they manned by Imperial Japanese pilots from WWII?
-Whats with the alien thingy? How does it break the laws of physics and grow like that in the spare pod?
-How come no one noticed a rhino sized alien thingy in the middle of the ship? ? ?
-Why are the running parallel with the rolling ship? Where do they recruit – planet Dumbass?
-How does no one notice the heroine just had a major operation? How does heroine go from major operation to running around?



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 Ahtman wrote:

yes, exactly that.

I can understand human beings being fallible, but why do team of supposedly intelligent and trained scientists act so stupidly? Oh yeah, they aren't even told what they are doing until they get there.

I didn't hate Prometheus, but I sure didn't like it, either. TBH I think Frazzled's use of "incredibly disjointed" was the best way I could have described the movie.

Charlize was dead on, Stringer Bell From The Wire was awesome, everyone else was less so, and Noomi Rapace was a little disappointing. In the far future, you don't have to make your actors affect accents.

Noomi Rapace: Required to do a British accept, she did such so poorly it was distracting, and I say this as someone who really enjoys her acting.

Idris Elba: Actually British, required to do an American accent. What in the actual feth?

People get really pissed of when a movie falls short of its hype and this movie was really over hyped.

I enjoyed the movie well enough. I didn't go in expecting an Alien prequel and, other than the sometimes daft plot devices being minor quibbles, the only thing that truly made me sigh in disappointment was the ending with the 'oh, we told you it wasn't an alien prequel but LOOK! here's an alien, a rather silly looking one with bad cgi'.

It was such an obvious crowd pleaser, wedged in at the end, that I thought it sold the rest of his movie down the river a bit and represented the insistence of suits and Scott's appeasing of them.


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 Ouze wrote:

Idris Elba: Actually British, required to do an American accent. What in the actual feth?

That was ridiculous. My wife likes him a lot and got highly annoyed with that.

My take is that there's nothing *wrong* with it, it's just a frustrating movie. Unanswered questions are one thing -- holes scattered throughout the logic of the narrative is another. You can kinda weave it together yourself, but it doesn't feel right or satisfying, kind of like taking a puzzle piece and forcing it to fit in the wrong spot.

After I watched it with a buddy of mine, we had a conversation about it that followed this general pattern:

"So X...does that mean Y?"
"Um...I think so. I mean..."
"Wait, but then what about Z?"
"I have no idea. So what was all that about A?"
"I think it meant B...I think. What are they saying on the internet?"

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
So why people hated it?

The trailers made the movie look like something I really wanted to watch, and then I found out that Ridley Scott was handing out idiot balls like they were candy. I can forgive a character flaw like a glorified lorry driver being unable to cope emotionally with an alien rape-monster running around in the same building, but I don't want to watch a movie where a scientist selected for a mission to find aliens finds an angry alien cobra and decides to pet it.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
My wife likes him a lot

I think most wives like him a lot.

Fraz nailed it. I couldn't even pay attention the whole way thru. The actions of the cast just didn't make sense and I couldn't latch on to anything.

And personally I knew it wasn't going to be a direct prequel and didn't really want it to be. But man, did it fall short of a solid even sci-fi flick.

Peter Weyland's TED Talk was awesome though.

Yes, and then they went and didn't include any of that supercool in the movie itself. In fact it had nothing to do with the movie...

Yeah, massive disappointment :(

My name is Peter Weyland and, if you'll indulge me, I'd like to change the World!