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2013/04/10 21:15:16
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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I actually don't present my opinion as fact most of the time. I don't type "IMO" every post, nor should I.
Why wouldn't he? Why would Magnus not address Lorgar as his title when with others? I mean, was Ferrus Manus mocking Fulgrim by referring to him as the Phoenician in Fulgrim?
If Magnus was poking fun at anyone, it would have been Leman Russ, for his dislike of the title and inability to tell Magnus why.
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2013/04/10 21:17:35
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Beaviz81 wrote:An immovable object meets an irresistible force. I'm glad I'm not drinking with you two.
I'm too old for this .......
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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0017/04/02 11:18:22
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
Philippines
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I'd have pick perturabo, although he's not in the polls. Horus'd need someone that was loyal, and perturabo like dorn is doggedly loyal.
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2013/04/10 21:26:42
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Void__Dragon wrote:I actually don't present my opinion as fact most of the time. I don't type " IMO" every post, nor should I.
Actually you do....Which bunch of people already noticed and asked you to stop...
and which is why I will bow out of this one...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/04/10 21:30:39
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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 kronk wrote: Beaviz81 wrote:An immovable object meets an irresistible force. I'm glad I'm not drinking with you two.
When given the choice, always drink with the hot chick in the short skirt. Always. Even if option B is Grandma on her birthday. 
Of course, I prefer that one. Those two have gotten into a good old fashioned fisticuff. And please do me the favor of not talking about grandmas. One died in 2012. The second one is dying.
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2013/04/10 21:35:11
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Viersche wrote:I'd have pick perturabo, although he's not in the polls. Horus'd need someone that was loyal, and perturabo like dorn is doggedly loyal.
Good observation - and QFT...I've already said Fulgrim or him...But after I thougt it through, good old Pert seems even a better choice....
OP : ADD THE PPPPP- PE-PERT-URABO into poll....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/04/10 22:22:20
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Sorry but you seem to be getting into it. You are both equally stubborn.
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2013/04/10 22:31:12
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Fear to Tread...
What the hell is this, lol.
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2013/04/10 22:33:13
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Is that supposed to prove you don't have a bias VD?
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2013/04/10 22:35:34
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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How the hell would that quote manage that?
Of course I have a bias. Everyone does. Only fools believe otherwise.
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2013/04/10 22:41:45
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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That was my point VD to prove you have a bias against the Space Wolves. Nothing less, nothing more. it's the same for Marko, you are both biased.
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2013/04/11 08:54:25
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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V__D is thinking along the same lines here and I took this to mean that Magnus had become a Daemon Prince, perhaps not knowingly. Everything Magnus has done has been preordained, he thinks hes done this himself, but has Tzeentch had a hand in it? Aren't Daemons beings of warp energy after all?
 DarthMarko wrote: kronk wrote:2nd in command of his Legion? Abbadon, obviously.
2nd in command of the Evil Crusade Against the Emperor? Lorgar. Probably. He's the only one he could trust to keep Angron inline.
Do you remember how Abby was trolling Alpharious ? He was talking to him like Apharious was IG-s common grunt who didn't clean his rifle....
I was like - what a big pair of ba* ls....
Yeah, but that was with Horus and his Cronies around him. I still think Alpharius could have bitched slapped him across the room. He might be mistakable for an Astartes, but an Astartes he is not.
kronk wrote: Beaviz81 wrote:An immovable object meets an irresistible force. I'm glad I'm not drinking with you two.
When given the choice, always drink with the hot chick in the short skirt.
Always.
Even if option B is Grandma on her birthday.
Or if all else fails, on your todd, but never Gin .. Gin is bad!
DarthMarko wrote:
Btw
Urizen was the name which Lorgar gave himself (read some William Blake, and the meaning, then you'll get the picture)...
If Magnus and Lorgar were bffl do you think he would adress him like that in front of Russ and Russ told him to shut his pie hole.... ???
Was it a name he gave himself or a name his Sons gave him? The Lupercal part of Horus name is mentioned in Horus Rising to be a pet name given to him by the Luna Wolves, it always puzzled me as to why everyone else started to call Horus, Horus Lupercal.
Beaviz81 wrote:
Of course, I prefer that one. Those two have gotten into a good old fashioned fisticuff.
Love blossoms 
I don't  and I ain' no foo!
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2013/04/11 09:05:10
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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BIG QFT 
Also concerning Abby - wasn't there a catchphrase "To be a captain in LW is being a primarch in others?" Or something similar... IIRC
My point is Abby has a really short fail-tolerance threshold even when concerning primarchs (who are one notch up)....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/04/11 19:22:45
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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I've never heard of that.
If he tried to boss around Angron, he'd promptly be murdered for his trouble.
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2013/04/12 01:25:08
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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If Horus had been killed earlier during the Heresy, Magnus perhaps could have taken over but I am not sure that would have been in his nature to do so.
There was too much jealousy among the other primarchs for any one of them to have become the leader by general agreement. The whole enterprise would have fallen apart just as it did after the Emperor killed Horus.
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2013/04/12 08:34:59
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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DarthMarko wrote:
Also concerning Abby - wasn't there a catchphrase "To be a captain in LW is being a primarch in others?" Or something similar... IIRC
My point is Abby has a really short fail-tolerance threshold even when concerning primarchs (who are one notch up)....
If there is that catchphrase, then it would be something that the Luna Wolves believe of themselves, I don't think the likes of Angron, as V__D says, would take kindly to that. Think of how Angron acts towards Eidolon, so he's not in favour at the moment but still. Primarchs are better than Astartes in all regards, at least that's how some of them think.
Abbadon has a short tolerance of everyone, think of how he acts towards Horus, his own Primarch, involving the Interex.
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2013/04/12 08:42:57
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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It's weird how that short tolerance disappears when in the immediate presence of those who would act in retribution on it with no hesitation. Like Angron, for example.
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2013/04/12 08:50:34
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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 Void__Dragon wrote:It's weird how that short tolerance disappears when in the immediate presence of those who would act in retribution on it with no hesitation. Like Angron, for example.
He's a bully, that can steal your lunch money apparently , but he poops himself when their are those that can whoop him.
I think it's a case of little man syndrome, he wants to be a Primarch so so much, but will never get there, so he has to be all angry and scary to everyone until a real Primarch shows up and he's all yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir. Apart from Alpharius, and that's because he is shorter that Abaddon.
I think that's why that Abaddon would not be accepted as the second in command to Horus if he were to have been killed early, he's only an Astartes in the presence of Primarchs.
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2013/04/12 09:19:33
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Abaddon is lucky that Alpharius is so cool-headed. Despite his short stature, Alpharius is still a Primarch, and I have no doubt he could have crushed a helmed Abaddon's skull between his fingers.
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2013/04/12 09:36:11
Subject: Horus's second in command?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Void__Dragon wrote:Abaddon is lucky that Alpharius is so cool-headed. Despite his short stature, Alpharius is still a Primarch, and I have no doubt he could have crushed a helmed Abaddon's skull between his fingers.
Hells yeah.
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