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I started a topic back on April Fools Day that got lambasted and then locked by the mods. People didn't like my sense of humor. Okay, I get that. I don't agree, but I get it.

But recently this

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/519722.page

got locked, because a fight started on it.

Come on, people, there is absolutely no reason why a little speculation on who the 40K emperor might have been historically should start a fight. Period. Point blank. If you think otherwise, you are just plain wrong.

I seem to see the forum growing increasingly touchy and nit picky recently. Why so? Or am I just crazy?

I actually find that Dakka isn't touchy enough, I could do with more physical contact.

At least Dakka has Mods that stop fights when they do break out.

And Dakka is far from bad on this subject compared to other forums.

I think society in general is getting too touchy and polarized for its own good. Hopefully there will be another asteroid along before too long.

It's funny, people have claimed that "Mods are starting to get out of control" since I joined nearly 5 years ago.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
It's funny, people have claimed that "Mods are starting to get out of control" since I joined nearly 5 years ago.

The people that make that claim are usually ones who are flagrantly breaking rules left and right.

xraytango wrote:
I think society in general is getting too touchy and polarized for its own good. Hopefully there will be another asteroid along before too long.

Um, what?

LOL I knew that thread would not end well, surprised at the timing of the lock though.

Y'all are gonna get eidted and then probably baned.

 Cheesecat wrote:

xraytango wrote:
I think society in general is getting too touchy and polarized for its own good. Hopefully there will be another asteroid along before too long.

Um, what?

The reason we don't have dinosaurs.

 Ouze wrote:
Y'all are gonna get eidted and then probably baned.

xraytango wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

xraytango wrote:
I think society in general is getting too touchy and polarized for its own good. Hopefully there will be another asteroid along before too long.

Um, what?

The reason we don't have dinosaurs.

But seriously why would you hope for a disaster like that? Why are you always so mean? Reported, I hope you get baned.

 Zinderneuf wrote:
I started a topic back on April Fools Day that got lambasted and then locked by the mods. People didn't like my sense of humor. Okay, I get that. I don't agree, but I get it.

But recently this

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/519722.page

got locked, because a fight started on it.

Come on, people, there is absolutely no reason why a little speculation on who the 40K emperor might have been historically should start a fight. Period. Point blank. If you think otherwise, you are just plain wrong.

I seem to see the forum growing increasingly touchy and nit picky recently. Why so? Or am I just crazy?

There is a gap of almost 2 hours between the thread lock and this post, so I'm forced to ask: did you actually witness the degeneration, or simply come back to find it locked? If it was the latter, then given the gap between the last (exlc. Janthkin's) post on it and the lock post, I'd say there might've been something you missed which would yield the answer.

I also disgaree with your statement about there being no reason, mainly because the thread you linked proves otherwise, but also because of posts like the third one after yours. Religion is a massively touchy subject in life and on the internet, and to a lot of trolls or just people with strong opinions they are like beacons. Many threads all over internet forums have managed to collapse in on themselves due to people fighting over religion for no reason other than someone deciding to take a shot at someone else.

That is one good reason why any thread could start a fight, and there are bound to be more, like two strongly-opinionated people butting heads over something, or simply for e-peen.

Anyway, to answer your question, Dakka hasn't seemed any more or less touchy since I joined. There are times when things heat up (usually around weekends, school holidays, and public holidays for any reason from there simply being more people around to people already being pissed off because ABC happened when they were trying to do XYZ on one of their rare days off) and there are times when they cool down, but most of the time it's pretty stable in most areas of the forum. N&R can get heated for obvious reasons, and the same with both YMDC forums, background forums, and OT, but really it's not nearly as common as people seem to think.

That thread got locked because the responses were all stupid. If I were a mod, I would've locked it too. Maybe it didn't break any one specific rule, but it still deserved locking.

In my opinion its just that the newer a user is, the less they can get away with. You only have three hundred posts, so odds are you can't get away with much. But the older users (usually guys with over 5 or 6k posts) can get away with a lot because everyone is used to it. Its just routine. Frazzled is almost always offtopic, but the mods let him get away with it because he's just so affable. And if I was a mod, I'd let him get away with it too. I know better than to boss the King of the Weinerdogs around.

 Cheesecat wrote:

xraytango wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

xraytango wrote:
I think society in general is getting too touchy and polarized for its own good. Hopefully there will be another asteroid along before too long.

Um, what?

The reason we don't have dinosaurs.

But seriously why would you hope for a disaster like that? Why are you always so mean? Reported, I hope you get baned.

Really, now who's mean and who is getting touchy?

The fact that you can take such offense to an observation about todays divisiveness and wondering if the whole thing doesn't need a massive reboot, shows just how thin-skinned some of us have become.

Everyone is special, there are no competitors only participants. We need push and pull in society, or else we are weak. A muscle only becomes strong by exercise not by avoiding weight.

If we avoid any discussion because it doesn't agree with our world view or makes us unhappy, then maybe our own views are not as strong as we think. We don't have to be right all the time. In fact it is good to be wrong sometimes, hopefully we learn from it and better ourselves by it.

OTOH, you might have been joking, what is that little orky guy doing anyway, growling at me?

Um, yeah I was joking I'm sure you were joking about the asteroid comment as well.

no, he doesn't want you to get Banned. He wants you to get Baned, which is infinitly more awsome.

 Grey Templar wrote:
And Dakka is far from bad on this subject compared to other forums.

QFT. Compared to other places on the internet (YouTube, 4chan, Twitter, Tumblr, nearly every blog everywhere, any video game company's forums, etc) Dakka is a shining beacon of hope and humanity.

 Cheesecat wrote:
Um, yeah I was joking I'm sure you were joking about the asteroid comment as well.

Well, you know, the universe is vast, we will not be missed.


Read that in a book once.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
And Dakka is far from bad on this subject compared to other forums.

QFT. Compared to other places on the internet (YouTube, 4chan, Twitter, Tumblr, nearly every blog everywhere, any video game company's forums, etc) Dakka is a shining beacon of hope and humanity.

I actually like seeing drama on this site it amuses me.

xraytango wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:
Um, yeah I was joking I'm sure you were joking about the asteroid comment as well.

Well, you know, the universe is vast, we will not be missed.


Read that in a book once.

I don't care if I'll be missed or not, I'd rather not be in such a position to missed or not.

When will we have those orbital anti-asteroid missile batteries built?

I hear North Korea says they have some! They look just like this: http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9655870/2/stock-illustration-9655870-bottle-rocket-fireworks.jpg

The moderation here isn't the best I've seen, but it's a lot better than some places. Like Warseer, where calling a fictional monster an "ugly bastard" is grounds for an official warning.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
And Dakka is far from bad on this subject compared to other forums.

QFT. Compared to other places on the internet (YouTube, 4chan, Twitter, Tumblr, nearly every blog everywhere, any video game company's forums, etc) Dakka is a shining beacon of hope and humanity.

You forgot Reddit.

I agree that Dakka can be overly sensitive, but it isn't new, and it isn't just Dakka, to be fair.

I've noticed, IMO, over the last few weeks fewer threads of substance. Maybe my opinion of just what that is has changed. I always find something good though, so can't really complain.

I have also noticed of late, that the Modhammer has been falling pretty swiftly and hard. Most of the time it's reasonable, and I certainly understand. Only a few times was it a little premature or anything like that. Most of those even could be seen as needing it. I think the ones for thread necromancy are the silliest TBH. I never understood the general vehemency of rage given towards that. That isn't just on Dakka. I've found so many threads via internet searches that were quite old (meaning years, not months or weeks) that were still relevant and helpful, at least in part.

I can understand in some cases, where a very old post may produce misinformation because of being dated, but that mostly only applies to rules debates/clarifications on here, not modeling.

All in all, while I think use of the Modhammer could be eased up a bit, or used more selectively (silly uses being relatively few, and trivial), I'm glad to be on a forum with people that are mostly intelligent, friendly, knowledgeable, and helpful, and mods that fit that description and actually give a damn.

There are two ways a "bad" thread comes to a moderator's attention. One is if he happens to read it, the other is if it is complained about.

We have more moderators than a year ago. Some of the increased "Modhammer" effect is simply that "bad" threads are more easily noticed.

I have no idea if the proportion of bad threads or complaints is going up in itself, or why that might happen.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There are two ways a "bad" thread comes to a moderator's attention. One is if he happens to read it, the other is if it is complained about.

We have more moderators than a year ago. Some of the increased "Modhammer" effect is simply that "bad" threads are more easily noticed.

I have no idea if the proportion of bad threads or complaints is going up in itself, or why that might happen.

The big thing that jumps out at me is duplicate threads getting locked faster than I remember, so you see more red icons near the top of the front page of a board more often. It might just be my imagination, though.

Overall, things seem about how I've always known them. People are generally pretty chill, even the exceptions tend not to cross the line where palpable rage become frothing vitriol, there seems to be a high turnover rate of the spammiest posters, and the mods certainly appear to be more concerned with upholding order (which is done both effectively and without excessive force) than running wild with their own pet peeves (as is common elsewhere).

I've had it with this heavy handed moderation in this place, why do I bribe Yakface pay for DCM membership if we cannot have free reign!



Mods these days...

But seriously:

I do hit the triangle more often than last year. But usually it's for clear rule violations, and most of them are for duplicate threads.

 AlexHolker wrote:
The moderation here isn't the best I've seen, but it's a lot better than some places. Like Warseer, where calling a fictional monster an "ugly bastard" is grounds for an official warning.

Happens on dakka too btw.

 Ouze wrote:
Y'all are gonna get eidted and then probably baned.

I for one welcome our fascist moderator overlords. May their reign beckon forth another 100 years of suffering and agony.