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No more waiting for books to be reprinted... Death from the Skies is going to be available as a digital download.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=8800020

But as a side note... The book has actually been put back up for sale some time ago (In the USA, they were sold out for some time).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440162a&prodId=prod1950012a

Whoo, a digital download version.


Too bad they only cater to Apple users.

So much for a "limited" release...

 Superscope wrote:
So much for a "limited" release...

It wasn't a limited release.
It was a limited first run, but more were printed afterwards.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Whoo, a digital download version.


Too bad they only cater to Apple users.

This. I have an Asus tablet running some manner of dessert named OS. Sell me PDF's dammit.

Also, ebooks are not worth print prices. Either sweeten the deal or lower the price.

 Aerethan wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Whoo, a digital download version.


Too bad they only cater to Apple users.

This. I have an Asus tablet running some manner of dessert named OS. Sell me PDF's dammit.

Also, ebooks are not worth print prices. Either sweeten the deal or lower the price.

You do realize this is GW your asking to lower a price too? They will lower it this summer, but will charge extra per download due to manpower needed to handle the demand.

I still can't get over the ridiculous digital prices. Pass.

Theophony wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Whoo, a digital download version.


Too bad they only cater to Apple users.

This. I have an Asus tablet running some manner of dessert named OS. Sell me PDF's dammit.

Also, ebooks are not worth print prices. Either sweeten the deal or lower the price.

You do realize this is GW your asking to lower a price too? They will lower it this summer, but will charge extra per download due to manpower needed to handle the demand.

I understand asking them to lower a price they have already released is pointless, as they have never done that(to my memory).

Digital content is still not worth physical content. The overhead alone should be reflected in the discounted price. The cost of paper, printing, shipping etc.

Digital goods have really a single cost: development. 3d files don't cost a damn thing to distribute, and for the few places that do charge fees(like iTunes) those fees are quite small.

Remember how Disney and a ton of other movie companies started including digital copies with the physical product? And how much extra did they charge? It sure as gak wasn't 100%. In most cases the digital copy is free, in some cases it's all of a 5% charge. And with my kids using the tablet for movies as they do, I'll gladly buy the product knowing that I'll have a physical copy at home, and a digital copy to take with me all over the place without having to lug around a dvd player on top of the tablet I already have.

Now if GW wants to sell me a codex for $55 and include a digital copy, fine. But charging for both is pointless. GW might want to pretend that piracy of their printed works doesn't exist, but it very much does, and them price gouging on digital products won't curb that.

Tau codex was online in PDF within 2 days of it's release. Not everyone is going to pirate, but for many people the decision to buy a book for an army they don't play is pretty much a matter of cost. If it was cheaper, they might buy it just to complete their collection. I used to do that when books were $22ea. Now I find myself hard pressed to buy books for armies I do play, because the price is so steep, and my morals hold no guilt over me for petty piracy.

Didn't they update the storm raven and storm talon into the digital space marine book?

Most digital ibooks have more content than the printed book. Whether that's worth it to some people is a different matter entirely.

Can I get the ork flyer rules for free? As I:

Bought the codex.
Bought the rulebook.
Bought the ork flyer.

??

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Can I get the ork flyer rules for free? As I:

Bought the codex.
Bought the rulebook.
Bought the ork flyer.

??

I'd be all for having a little unit sheet included in any supplemental units that were not released in the army's codex.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Can I get the ork flyer rules for free? As I:

Bought the codex.
Bought the rulebook.
Bought the ork flyer.

??

Yeah but then how would GW make MOAR MONIES!

 Aerethan wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Whoo, a digital download version.


Too bad they only cater to Apple users.

This. I have an Asus tablet running some manner of dessert named OS. Sell me PDF's dammit.

Also, ebooks are not worth print prices. Either sweeten the deal or lower the price.

I'm going to avoid the issue of iOS only to focus on your second comment.

For me, the ebooks, while expensive, are a better deal than a paper codex. I have multiple iPads in my house and multiple 40K players (my three teenaged sons all play). Buying the ebook version once gets me that version viewable on all three tablets at the same time. When I'm reading the codex, I don't have to flip through pages to find out what a piece of wargear does, I can just touch the name and get all the details I need from a pop-up window. The ebook version cannot be misplaced, which happened a few times to me or my sons with older, paper books.

These are just some of the more obvious reasons to get the digital codex. I really can't think of any reason to ever purchase a paper codex again. Just sticking all the data in a PDF would get you some of these benefits, but no where near all of them.

I'd be all for having a little unit sheet included in any supplemental units that were not released in the army's codex.

Agreed. They did it before...I don't see why they don't do it now. Meh.


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For me, the ebooks, while expensive, are a better deal than a paper codex. I have multiple iPads in my house and multiple 40K players (my three teenaged sons all play). Buying the ebook version once gets me that version viewable on all three tablets at the same time. When I'm reading the codex, I don't have to flip through pages to find out what a piece of wargear does, I can just touch the name and get all the details I need from a pop-up window. The ebook version cannot be misplaced, which happened a few times to me or my sons with older, paper books.

These are just some of the more obvious reasons to get the digital codex. I really can't think of any reason to ever purchase a paper codex again. Just sticking all the data in a PDF would get you some of these benefits, but no where near all of them.

Agreed. Most of them also have bonus content that's not available in the print version either.

 Aerethan wrote:
Digital content is still not worth physical content. The overhead alone should be reflected in the discounted price. The cost of paper, printing, shipping etc.

Digital goods have really a single cost: development. 3d files don't cost a damn thing to distribute, and for the few places that do charge fees(like iTunes) those fees are quite small.

Actually, apple takes a 30% cut of everything they sell in the iTunes store. I wouldn't call that 'quite small'.

 undertow wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Digital content is still not worth physical content. The overhead alone should be reflected in the discounted price. The cost of paper, printing, shipping etc.

Digital goods have really a single cost: development. 3d files don't cost a damn thing to distribute, and for the few places that do charge fees(like iTunes) those fees are quite small.

Actually, apple takes a 30% cut of everything they sell in the iTunes store. I wouldn't call that 'quite small'.

So 30%, and you can piece meal out your album which increases your total available sales. Then you also don't have to pay for media printing, shipping, any taxes on those processes, customs fees etc. Then you have to compete for shelf space, you have to maintain distribution channels to retailers...

And iTunes is open 24/7. And once you buy a product there, you can download it again should you lose the original copy(which with replacing computers and devices comes in quite handy).

And that is only if you go the Apple route. I doubt B&N is charging 30% to sell ebooks.

The benefits of digital media far outweigh their old physical counterparts, for both the producer and the consumer. But with that, the prices should accurately reflect savings, otherwise perceived value will drop and sales will follow.

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
Agreed. Most of them also have bonus content that's not available in the print version either.

Sure. Bonus content that doesn't actually need to be in the codex, and just makes it a bigger and more sluggish file. And that used to be available for free through the articles section on the GW website.

 insaniak wrote:

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
Agreed. Most of them also have bonus content that's not available in the print version either.

Sure. Bonus content that doesn't actually need to be in the codex, and just makes it a bigger and more sluggish file. And that used to be available for free through the articles section on the GW website.

One could also argue that any given codex could have a single page printed with weapon specs and rules on it for that army. Army Builder files often have them included, at least for the stats.

 Aerethan wrote:


Digital content is still not worth physical content. The overhead alone should be reflected in the discounted price. The cost of paper, printing, shipping etc.

Digital goods have really a single cost: development. 3d files don't cost a damn thing to distribute, and for the few places that do charge fees(like iTunes) those fees are quite small.

I disagree.

Digital is better in several ways. Multiple codexs, that don't fall apart with use, get transported in one place with far less weight. They come with extra content. They also get updated, so I don't have to lug around the errata or have to try and convince someone that the errata exists to begin with, which has happened too many times for my liking.

So, yes, they are worth the cost. And there are upkeep costs for GW, be they corrections or the additions of new units. When GW comes up with it's own army builder that gets it right, and allows for plug and play information from the content you already own, digital codexs will become even more helpful to the player. For me this is not a matter of if, but when, since they've really gotten on the ball in releasing quality digital products.

And there I was, so naive, thinking this was a pdf with rules in the FAQs section. What was I thinking in?

 undertow wrote:

I'm going to avoid the issue of iOS only to focus on your second comment.

Okay, as important a point as it is, let's ignore anything that is os specific.

I have multiple iPads in my house and multiple 40K players (my three teenaged sons all play). Buying the ebook version once...

Wait... but... you said... Fine, let's not avoid the issue of iOS only. We are all very aware of how great the digital version is, but it's iOS specific!

And it should be included at a greatly discounted price when you buy the hard copy.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Can I get the ork flyer rules for free? As I:

Bought the codex.
Bought the rulebook.
Bought the ork flyer.

??

You are a funny guy, for free? from GW ?

I'm a really big fan of all the digital content. Ill never buy a hardcover codex again.

Active updates? Check.
Multiple codeces in one tablet? Check.
Rule quick links ? Check.

Love it.

Real is always better than virtual.

 EYEofTERROR wrote:
Real is always better than virtual.

Well Virtual Death rather the real dead.

Indeed, Virtual Death is one of my favorite things...

A PDF at the same cost as a printed book? And that printed book is already far too expensive for what it is just due to it being "niche"? And I have to buy an Ipad just to look at it?

Eh, no. I'll pass.

After looking at the GW site......wait, what? How in the feth do you preorder a PDF?! How does that even work? And why?

when you pre-order, you get an alert as soon as the download is available...
you are not charged until you download the book...
it's really just an "alert me" button...

cheers
jah

 AegisGrimm wrote:
A PDF at the same cost as a printed book? And that printed book is already far too expensive for what it is just due to it being "niche"? And I have to buy an Ipad just to look at it?

Eh, no. I'll pass.

After looking at the GW site......wait, what? How in the feth do you preorder a PDF?! How does that even work? And why?

For, I don't know, the 41st time, none of the GW digital products are "a PDF."