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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Forar wrote:
No no no, you don't understand. These are designs from the 80's that weren't created with making miniatures in mind.

For the RDF, this might as well be true.

Yeah, because japanese mecha series don't have attached toys and plamo deals since forever ^_^

I always found the argument of Destroids being copies of older models interesting to say the least since if you have to make a new miniature with the exact same or close to the exact same frame and likeness as the old one there are only so many things you can change.

If I was going to make a bike that looks exactly like a bike from 20 years ago there is only so much I can do. I can change the materials and upgrade the brakes and such but the basic design and manufacturing processes and methodology are unlikely to have changed that much as to warrant a completely new parts workup.

I don't think that's necessarily true at all.

There are people that recreate old items using old design/manufacturing techniques intentionally, but someone could totally make a Sony Walkman these days without being forced to dust off 30 year old machines (or recreate the process exactly using the same techniques/molds/etc on newer machines).

The figures boil down to geometric shapes. They aren't non-euclidean objects from C'thulhu's darkest dreams (long may he slumber).

Choices of pose or some of the 'mouth watering detail' can affect overhang and the need to make hard calls on how to ratify that, but at the end of the day, it's not like this is some sort of moon mission equivalent.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If they have the team who sculpted the Zentraedi take on the Invid, that could really do a lot to improve interest in the game. A third faction, and arguably the most visually distinct range in the series, would be a great way to keep it fresh.

Yes, and no...

While Invid would look great, and I'd love to see them, the biggest ones would probably only be about half the size of a VF. You think the bits are fiddly right now...?

^^;;

Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

And don't forget - each claw "tip" will need to be glued on separately.

Eumerin wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

And don't forget - each claw "tip" will need to be glued on separately.

also each piece will have 3-4 sprue connection points.

Got my Reckless today.

That is a mountain of stuff and should keep me busy for a year or two.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Got my Reckless today.

That is a mountain of stuff and should keep me busy for a year or two.

or 3 or 4

Asterios wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Got my Reckless today.

That is a mountain of stuff and should keep me busy for a year or two.

or 3 or 4

Well, it should be about enough time to cover them shipping Wave 2,

Then we can sit around and reminisce about that RRT KS from a decade ago.

 TalonZahn wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Got my Reckless today.

That is a mountain of stuff and should keep me busy for a year or two.

or 3 or 4

Well, it should be about enough time to cover them shipping Wave 2,

Then we can sit around and reminisce about that RRT KS from a decade ago.

well my RRT stuff went in the closet since have much better gaming miniatures to deal with since got in a batch of 40K stuff to assemble which should keep me busy for a bit.

Is this game 1/144 scale?

Or...something else?

 Alpharius wrote:
Is this game 1/144 scale?

Or...something else?

1/285 scale

Asterios wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Is this game 1/144 scale?

Or...something else?

1/285 scale

aka micro-armor

That's also known as 6mm, right?

 Alpharius wrote:
That's also known as 6mm, right?

yes.

Yup... same as battletech supposedly.

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

Wait, are the RDF supposed to be 6mm scale? There is no way a 6mm figure could fit in the cockpit.

And I would totally be okay with them changing the scale for Invid.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

Wait, are the RDF supposed to be 6mm scale? There is no way a 6mm figure could fit in the cockpit.

And I would totally be okay with them changing the scale for Invid.

that's what they say, as to the invid at 6mm they gonna be tiny.

Well...

According to Wikipedia (used that source because I'm lazy and didn't want to spend too much time looking), a VF is 41.6 feet tall in battloid mode. At 1/285 scale, that comes out to 1-3/4" tall.

Does that sound about right?

Eumerin wrote:
Well...

According to Wikipedia (used that source because I'm lazy and didn't want to spend too much time looking), a VF is 41.6 feet tall in battloid mode. At 1/285 scale, that comes out to 1-3/4" tall.

Does that sound about right?

ayup,

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Invid are extremely simple models. They would on be fiddle bits if PB decided to split every piece in half.

Even if modeled at 6mm scale like the Macross minis, the smallest invid would still be larger than a veritech head. Therefore, they will be split into at least a half dozen parts with seams running down their tiny crab claws and the "eye" being a separate piece that you have to clip, clean, and glue to the body.

Wait, are the RDF supposed to be 6mm scale? There is no way a 6mm figure could fit in the cockpit.

And I would totally be okay with them changing the scale for Invid.

They say that 1/285 is the official scale for RRPGT. 6mm is the conversion to metric for that scale. I haven't checked in any case myself as I don't think I even have any 6mm infantry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1:285_scale

Also keep in mind that while the official size might be 41.6 feet tall, the artwork might not match up to that.

But the real issue will probably be if they get releases for the subsequent series. The hovertanks and Alphas were both significantly shorter than than the VFs. Multi-generational fights would be very interesting, as the Regaults would tower over everything else.

Stray thought - Cyclops Recon Craft versus Invid... Goliath vs the Liliputians.

Eumerin wrote:
Also keep in mind that while the official size might be 41.6 feet tall, the artwork might not match up to that.

But the real issue will probably be if they get releases for the subsequent series. The hovertanks and Alphas were both significantly shorter than than the VFs. Multi-generational fights would be very interesting, as the Regaults would tower over everything else.

Stray thought - Cyclops Recon Craft versus Invid... Goliath vs the Liliputians.

better yet a M.A.C. II versus an invid scout (about 10mm high in 1/285 scale)

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Not perfect but as exact as I could guess from all the sources

Asterios wrote:

Eumerin wrote:
Also keep in mind that while the official size might be 41.6 feet tall, the artwork might not match up to that.

But the real issue will probably be if they get releases for the subsequent series. The hovertanks and Alphas were both significantly shorter than than the VFs. Multi-generational fights would be very interesting, as the Regaults would tower over everything else.

Stray thought - Cyclops Recon Craft versus Invid... Goliath vs the Liliputians.

better yet a M.A.C. II versus an invid scout (about 10mm high in 1/285 scale)

I think the Cyclops is bigger than the MAC II.

In fact, it's probably the largest thing that might conceivably make it into the game - aside from, perhaps, a Horizont Drop Ship terrain piece.

Maybe the Bioroid Transport or the Zen Transport

 Mike1975 wrote:
Maybe the Bioroid Transport or the Zen Transport

well if they do it i'm sure they will have the Bioroid sleds, but doubt anything bigger like the transport ships.

A Horizont is 198 feet long, which puts it at just over four times the length of a VF. That'd make a nice objective to fight over.

Not sure on the others.


And after looking over the size, I suspect that we won't be seeing the Quell-Quallie (i.e. Cyclops Recon Vehicle) anytime soon. It's apparently a little over 400 feet (roughly 125m) long, which would mean that it's over 9 VFs in length.