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on a side note GW/Citadel did put out a multi piece Epic Space Marine, but it was some type of Con exclusive.

 paulson games wrote:
Trying to build anything that has multiple parts at that size will be nightmarish as it's basically the height of a veritechs head but much thinner and more complex. If they are made as one piece models they will be extremely limited in pose.

Palladium has already proven that they're ok with making things the size of veritech heads in multiple pieces. I think pretty much anything is possible with them but at least we're probably two years at best away from having to worry about it (1 year to finish wave 2 and then another year to get their ducks 98% finalized in line for the next KS... assuming they don't get sidetracked with a Rifts minis game line).

Asterios wrote:
on a side note GW/Citadel did put out a multi piece Epic Space Marine, but it was some type of Con exclusive.

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:
on a side note GW/Citadel did put out a multi piece Epic Space Marine, but it was some type of Con exclusive.

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

well Forgeworld not Citadel but some auctions can be seen here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=forgeworld+event+only+space+marine&_from=R40%7CR40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xforgeworld+event+only+epic+scale+space+marine.TRS0&_nkw=forgeworld+event+only+epic+scale+space+marine&_sacat=0

Terrain is going to look seriously stupid with all these mixed scales on the same table.

Honestly at that point why not just play with random model kits? I am not sure why you guys would even buy into a 6mm game if you didn't want a 6mm game.

I also agree that having a cylcone statted out to be as powerful as a veritech is going to appear absurd when the two are facing off. Quite frankly it is absurd.

 Swabby wrote:
I also agree that having a cylcone statted out to be as powerful as a veritech is going to appear absurd when the two are facing off. Quite frankly it is absurd.

It might get rewritten. I've mentioned the RPG's absurd MDC values before, and RPG Tactics appears to have at least acknowledged the issue. The values for the units in the miniatures game do not correspond to the values for the units in the RPG. Also, iirc the problem wasn't so much that the Cyclone and VF were roughly similar in MDC values. It was that the Cyclone had ridiculously heavy armor even compared to the Alpha Legios.

Asterios wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:
on a side note GW/Citadel did put out a multi piece Epic Space Marine, but it was some type of Con exclusive.

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

well Forgeworld not Citadel but some auctions can be seen here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=forgeworld+event+only+space+marine&_from=R40%7CR40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xforgeworld+event+only+epic+scale+space+marine.TRS0&_nkw=forgeworld+event+only+epic+scale+space+marine&_sacat=0

Well, I guess it did happen!

Crazy small glue time there!

Ironically, the conversation in another thread turned to multipart space marines at 6mm and a link was posted. Since a space marine in power armor is 8ft and roughly the same size as a cyclone, who wants 6mm multipart cyclones?!

I wouldn't want to attempt with that Space Marine, the single piece models were fiddly to begin with, that would be just plain ugly. can we say microscope anyone? but then again I did get a couple of foldscopes in the mail the other day.

I want single part cyclones at 6mm. Anything else would be stupid.

 Swabby wrote:
I want single part cyclones at 6mm. Anything else would be stupid.

We're talking about Palladium.

 warboss wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
I want single part cyclones at 6mm. Anything else would be stupid.

We're talking about Palladium.

whats wrong with 12 part Cyclones at 6mm ?

Everything?

Those pics make me realize how much I miss Space Marine/Titan Legion, and how dumb I was to sell it all off years ago...

It's kind of sad that its Robotech rather than Macross, as the successor lines of Macross variable fighters all keep to roughly the same size (The Messiah VF-25 is 15.6m to the Valkyrie's 12.85m). Vajra would be mostly identical to the Invid but in a larger size.


On a different note, I'm wondering if I can email Palladium and get my Experimental Battloids and YF-4s switched to Armored Valkyries and VF-1E/1D. The Jotun doesn't have the stats I'd expect for an Orguss clone and the YF-4 is strictly worse than the VF-1R.

Really hope that they keep the scale the same across the three eras.

That said, Palladium really needs to contract out any future infantry scale 6mm models to this guy.
http://www.onslaughtmini.com

The detail he can get on 6mm figures is ridiculous.

Well gamers Haven in Spokane Washington got a shipment of Robotech stuff in:

https://www.facebook.com/334826499574/photos/pb.334826499574.-2207520000.1416626939./10152937671909575/?type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Gamers-Haven/334826499574?sk=wall

Did anyone get any wave 1 add ons? If so, did they come in the retail box? I just got the basic pledge so I only got the big battlecry baggie and the core set of models.

yes WarBoss the add ons do come in boxes while the bonuses from Battlecry and above do not.

Any Canadians know what the duty amounts to on a showdown?

Update from PB on FB. I guess PB doesn't want to update their ks backers anymore.


"Overseas Kickstarter Backers: Only those of you overseas and outside the US and Canada remain. We will start packing up and prepping your rewards next week and for the next few weeks. You are important to us and we will keep you updated on our progress. Please Note: Overseas distributors and retailers have NOT been shipped product. So our Kickstarter backers in other countries should still get their rewards (and pre-orders) BEFORE they appear in stores outside North America. See a more complete explanation in the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Update elsewhere.


Good News Part Five: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – in stores throughout the United States in time for BLACK FRIDAY Sales. Since ALL of the rewards have shipped to our backers in the USA and Canada (the last two dozen Canadian orders shipping on Monday), we were able to ship Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to our North American distributors. That means most of them should be able to get RRT product into their retail accounts in time for the Black Friday sales next weekend. USA Note: The “in store” release date is Wednesday, November 26, 2014 in the USA, but some stores may wait till Black Friday. Canada Note: The “in store” release date in Canada is also Wednesday, November 26, 2014. However, we suspect that most Canadian retailers are not likely to have Robotech® RPG Tactics™ in stores until the week after the November 26 (early December). But we don’t know that; they may be in stores by the November 26 street date or that weekend. Watch for it."

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Update from PB on FB. I guess PB doesn't want to update their ks backers anymore.


"Overseas Kickstarter Backers: Only those of you overseas and outside the US and Canada remain. We will start packing up and prepping your rewards next week and for the next few weeks. You are important to us and we will keep you updated on our progress. Please Note: Overseas distributors and retailers have NOT been shipped product. So our Kickstarter backers in other countries should still get their rewards (and pre-orders) BEFORE they appear in stores outside North America. See a more complete explanation in the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Update elsewhere.


Good News Part Five: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – in stores throughout the United States in time for BLACK FRIDAY Sales. Since ALL of the rewards have shipped to our backers in the USA and Canada (the last two dozen Canadian orders shipping on Monday), we were able to ship Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to our North American distributors. That means most of them should be able to get RRT product into their retail accounts in time for the Black Friday sales next weekend. USA Note: The “in store” release date is Wednesday, November 26, 2014 in the USA, but some stores may wait till Black Friday. Canada Note: The “in store” release date in Canada is also Wednesday, November 26, 2014. However, we suspect that most Canadian retailers are not likely to have Robotech® RPG Tactics™ in stores until the week after the November 26 (early December). But we don’t know that; they may be in stores by the November 26 street date or that weekend. Watch for it."

hmm wonder how they can explain a US store already has this product available in its store already ?

They had retailer pledge levels during the KS. If a retailer pledged with the rest of us, they got it along with other pledgers.

 warboss wrote:
They had retailer pledge levels during the KS. If a retailer pledged with the rest of us, they got it along with other pledgers.

no they did not have a retailer pledge available, if they did a friend of mine who has a store would have gotten that. also doubt it would have been better then retailer prices since some places selling the main game box for less then we were charged.

On a totally different note; How does the paint guide actually work?

What are all the codes? Where are the paint color names? Another over-site I guess; not creating a key for us to read the paint guide.

Why am I not surprised it's for sale instores before ROW pledgers have theirs. . .

fething paladium.

The codes in the paint guide are hex codes (computer color codes), so unless you're painting your figures with your computer they're pretty pointless unfortunately.

 Duskland wrote:
The codes in the paint guide are hex codes (computer color codes), so unless you're painting your figures with your computer they're pretty pointless unfortunately.

Sounds about par for the course I'd say then.

 Swabby wrote:
Terrain is going to look seriously stupid with all these mixed scales on the same table.

So don't play with them on the same table. Or proxy them. At 6mm, even a space marine looks like a human-shaped blob. Might as well be a cyclone. Have fun with that.

Jeez, at 6mm, they're not even choking hazards anymore.

Honestly at that point why not just play with random model kits? I am not sure why you guys would even buy into a 6mm game if you didn't want a 6mm game.

I would and do, but model kits are not built to withstand the kind of usage gaming peices are (supposed to). Maybe I bought into the game (that happened to be 6mm) because I wanted a Robotech game (and they only made it in 6mm). How many backers do you think pledged based on the 6mm scale vs the brand?

Seriously, 6mm games aren't played with minis--they are played with stands of minis. They are essentially the tokens you get in Risk, but even tinier and sadder. I sure don't remember Robotech being about huge formations of troops marching in formation.

Would you rather see the game dead and buried than see the next two seasons released at a scale that (shudder) normal people could enjoy?

I also agree that having a cylcone statted out to be as powerful as a veritech is going to appear absurd when the two are facing off. Quite frankly it is absurd.

So, don't face them against each other. In fact, if they were different scales, then everyone who cared would avoid putting them on the same table.

 Sheep wrote:
Why am I not surprised it's for sale instores before ROW pledgers have theirs. . .

fething paladium.

Another broken promise. Absolutely not surprised. Either Palladium don't understand the global marketplace (and don't realize we have the ability to buy from the US), they don't care about their promises, or they compromised their principles for greed.

First, it was "backers will get theirs first". Then recently they quietly and unilaterally changed it to "backers will have theirs shipped first". Now, apparently, it's "backers will be shipped theirs first before retails in their country get it". Because noone could ever possibly have a package shipped over national borders. Should they have made the promise? Probably not. But they made it. Several times. And it's telling as a company, that they're so willing to just crap on statements made.

If I still had money on the line, I'd be fething furious. As it is, I'm still moderately irate.

Palladium Books should add the tagline, "re-evaluate your expectations".

Shifting goal posts for ROW, what a shock