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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 08:00:51
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Awesome Autarch
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Yes, the one closest to where we will be, about a block away, thanks for clarifying that. It is the Quad Location.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 15:52:48
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wait, there are enough Tyranid players coming to the LVO for this to matter?
Jy2 excepted of course
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 16:58:53
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Awesome Autarch
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Jy2 isn't bringing Nids =P
The recent tournament at Warhammer World had all of ZERO new Nid players, lol.
We'd like at least some!
Plus, a number of Nid players have reached out to me and said they aren't ready to play the new book due to not being familiar with it, not having models ready, etc.
It really, really isn't a big deal. At all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 17:03:42
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How many players plan to bring Tyranids?
Btw Nidz took fifth place at WGC last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 17:19:48
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Reecius wrote:Jy2 isn't bringing Nids =P
The recent tournament at Warhammer World had all of ZERO new Nid players, lol.
We'd like at least some!
Plus, a number of Nid players have reached out to me and said they aren't ready to play the new book due to not being familiar with it, not having models ready, etc.
It really, really isn't a big deal. At all.
I can see what you're trying to say but it might be better if you find a different way to express yourself here. Thanks
Reds8n
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 17:37:18
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Fixture of Dakka
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OverwatchCNC wrote:Wait, there are enough Tyranid players coming to the LVO for this to matter?
Jy2 excepted of course 
Sorry, my bugs aren't ready for Prime-time yet. They're going to sit this one out.
Maybe in the next tournament.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 18:14:07
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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Dozer Blades wrote:How many players plan to bring Tyranids?
Btw Nidz took fifth place at WGC last year.
WGC results:
1st place: Necrons
2nd place: Demons
3rd place: IG
4th place: Demons
WGC was before Tau and Eldar domination. If you go back far enough, yes Tyranids did ok.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 18:18:43
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Good point Blackmoor .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 18:53:37
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Scuttling Genestealer
San Diego, CA
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I'm bringing new nids.
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Cooper Waddell
Heresy White Scars
Winner of the 2015 Hammer of Wrath 40k GT - White Scars
Best Overall at the 2018 SoCal Open - Tyranids |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:12:22
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Awesome Autarch
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Good on ya, Coop!
@Thread
Guys, the overall state of the Meta, or testing the new Nids (or any new army) isn't the point of the LVO.
The point of the LVO is to provide a fun gaming convention for the people paying money to come.
The new Nids came out at an awkward time for our event. Not everyone dives right in to a new codex the way we do. Some folks do and are excited to paly the new stuff like LaJollaGard, some don't.
I have actually had a number of veteran Nid players, like 10 years+, ready to sell their armies and move on to Warmahordes or DzC they're so bummed out about the new book.
So, in the sake of fairness and providing a FUN environment for the greatest number of people, we're letting Nid player choose to use the new or old book. I will bet money it will be such a minor deal that hardly anyone notices. I will be shocked if we even break double digit numbers for Nids.
And so what if the old books does well? It will be the last hurrah for the Ol' Bugs if so, and good on em. It'd be no different than if IG come out before Adepticon but after their cutoff date and someone with the old book wins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:13:31
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well said, Reecius.
Best of luck at your convention!
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:37:08
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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A question about the LVO/BAO Crusade mission. Since you always have 3 objectives and you place them after you choose deployment zones, doesn't that give a huge advantage to the person who wins the dice roll for table sides?
I know that you have it so that you place the objectives outside of your deployment zone, but that is meaningless. What always happens (and I mean always) is that 2 objectives get placed right on the deployment zone line right in front of the first players castle. The other player who lost the dice roll for sides only gets to place one objective on his deployment zone line. That means that one player will not have to move and they get 2 objectives, and the other player only gets one. That means that one player has to cross 24" of board just to contest that mission, and the other has to do nothing but sit there and shoot the crap out of his opponent to win.
Does that seem fair?
So, do you know who can cross the board and contest those objectives? Seer Councils and Screamer Stars, the 2 armies you want to discourage, you are encouraging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:43:39
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Bravo to Reece and co for making the best calls possible in a crazy turbulent environment.
I am bummed I will not be making it ... Tony and I bandied it about for some time, but it's just coming amidst too much stuff for me (also, I didn't know about being able to play old nids till just now).
Allan - maybe not best to be carping on missions at the 11th hour ... at this point learn 'em, get ready best you can for 'em, and go kick ass and have a blast - 256'ers are a rare breed of GT, and it's exciting to have another one going on this year  ...
Can't wait to see the results and outcomes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:47:52
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Old Nids?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! I need to speak to my special friend!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 19:52:31
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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MVBrandt wrote:
Allan - maybe not best to be carping on missions at the 11th hour ... at this point learn 'em, get ready best you can for 'em, and go kick ass and have a blast - 256'ers are a rare breed of GT, and it's exciting to have another one going on this year  ...
Carping eh?
I just learned about this problem and it has a simple solution: Place objectives before the roll for table sides.
And yes, I know what the book says to do, but that is horrible for tournaments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 20:07:11
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
California
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@Blackmoor
Tbh that is actually what I normally do. Place objectives before choosing sides/it normally comes out even distribution of some sort as if someone does put 2 on one side and doesnt win that side well.... that was ur gamble and it didn't pay off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 20:52:35
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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On the thing of objectives, We bring our own for the Tournament correct? And for the scouring how do we mark them(I noticed 2 large bases and 3 regular bases are required for them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 21:25:42
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Awesome Autarch
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@Mike
Thanks, bud! I know you guys wanted to come but no worries. Maybe next year! Frankie and I will be at NOVA this year though, along with some of the crew for sure baring some act of god.
@Blackmoor
You sure are taking this seriously for someone that said they wasn't taking the event seriously, lol!
Our system is EXTENSIVELY play-tested. Like, hundreds of practice games. We find the system works very fairly due to forcing players to distribute objectives out of their deployment zones.
If you lose a game because of that, specific instance in that, specific mission, i will buy you a beer, bud!
@Kronk
Thanks!
@Hot Sizzle
Yes, you bring the objectives and you can number your Scouring Objectives as 1,2,3. We don't score them the way the book does. Just be sure you do not mark them in a way so that you can tell which is which as it could appear as if you are trying to cheat to your opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 21:36:06
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I was just going to put masking tape on the bottom and writ on them.
Im so excited. This may sound stupid. but im getting on the Monorail at ballys the first thing I do to see the whole strip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 21:37:21
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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I am taking the new nids, so i can't take it to seriously
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 22:05:40
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh oh oh, does that mean I should call you out for a round one grudge match!!
Just kidding, last time I played you round 1 at a GE Pasadena RT with my brand new fully painted Cron Airforce you beat me and kept me from taking the top spot by 5 points or some such bull
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 22:46:03
Subject: Re:Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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If you want to play a practice/Tune up game I am available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 00:47:56
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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whitedragon wrote:Old Nids?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! I need to speak to my special friend!
Uh oh...
Monster bash coming?
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 04:26:24
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I am taking New Nids too!! It's going to be a New Nid Party!!!
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Warboss of Team TableWar Team Zero Comp RankingsHQ Rank
12,000+ Evil Sunz ... and a whole lotta WAAAGH!!! 4,000+ Space Marines 3,500+ Chaos Space Marines 3,000+ Imperial Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 04:29:44
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
Rochester, NY
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Oh boy... This is going to be an interesting tournament. I'm excited to see all the nid players though.
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3k Pure Daemons
3k SoB who fell to (CSM counts as)
2014 DaBoyz Best Sportsman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 04:40:13
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Guys....don't tempt me. Something's bugging me here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 04:48:03
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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@JY2 - are you BROODing over the lack of DOOM you can REAP in the new Dex?
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Warboss of Team TableWar Team Zero Comp RankingsHQ Rank
12,000+ Evil Sunz ... and a whole lotta WAAAGH!!! 4,000+ Space Marines 3,500+ Chaos Space Marines 3,000+ Imperial Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 04:49:26
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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Dugg wrote:I am taking New Nids too!! It's going to be a New Nid Party!!!
Good luck with your back old timer!
I also know that you are not taking them because they do not have any forge world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 05:01:48
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Oh Blackmore you are so silly. Did my Orks have ForgeWorld (units) in them? Your memory seems to be slipping old timee Gamer. :p
My broken back will be just fine. I will be running all barrage and Flyers. I will have the smallest model count bug list there.
Don't you worry Blackmoor! I will be bringing Forgeworld models in my list. Just for you.
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Warboss of Team TableWar Team Zero Comp RankingsHQ Rank
12,000+ Evil Sunz ... and a whole lotta WAAAGH!!! 4,000+ Space Marines 3,500+ Chaos Space Marines 3,000+ Imperial Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 05:35:37
Subject: Las Vegas Open: 40K Champs: Main events sold out! Still room in other events!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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I normally do not have back problems, but after 5 games with the bugs this weekend it started to make it's displeasure felt.
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