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Your title is a little misleading, but let's not let sensationalism get in the way of a tragedy...

Was much more interested in this from the "Editor's Pick" section.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/gorgeous-model-commutes-work-naked-article-1.1332240

 Alfndrate wrote:
Your title is a little misleading, but let's not let sensationalism get in the way of a tragedy...

this wouldn't have happened if the two-year-old had been carrying.

 Grundz wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
Your title is a little misleading, but let's not let sensationalism get in the way of a tragedy...

this wouldn't have happened if the two-year-old had been carrying.

That's not what I was saying at all, but your title is misleading, intentionally or not. A 2yr girl is dead because a rifle meant to instill gun safety in children had one of the first rules of gun safety completely ignore, keep the weapon unloaded, and the chamber open when not in use.

Oh look, another gun thread... oh, this one is about children dying. Fantastic.

I don't really see this as a gun control issue, it's more of a parenting one. Yes it wouldn't have happened without guns, but what's more likely to happen; People locking up their guns properly or guns suddenly vanishing?

"‘just one of those crazy accidents.’"

Is it? IS IT REALLY? Or is it the absolutely most likely outcome when you give a loaded firearm as a gift to a 5 year old child?

I'm reminded of an SNL weekend update, with Norm Macdonald was doing it. He mentioned a headline where a 10 year old was mauled by their family's pet cougar, and added "Authorities are unsure of why it attacked". He then waited a moment and added "perhaps it's cause.... their pet was a cougar."

 Medium of Death wrote:
Oh look, another gun thread... oh, this one is about children dying. Fantastic.

I don't really see this as a gun control issue, it's more of a parenting one. Yes it wouldn't have happened without guns, but what's more likely to happen; People locking up their guns properly or guns suddenly vanishing?

It is most definitely a parenting issue :-\

also Ouze, while I agree with your statement, I believe the idiot from Kentucky was referring to the point that the crazy accident was that the children's parents were allowed to procreate... twice

Lock the thread

My thoughts are with the five-year-old. He has to deal with this for the rest of his life.

 Alfndrate wrote:


That's not what I was saying at all, but your title is misleading, intentionally or not. A 2yr girl is dead because a rifle meant to instill gun safety in children had one of the first rules of gun safety completely ignore, keep the weapon unloaded, and the chamber open when not in use.

so make it a law? why do you hate freedom?

 Grundz wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:


That's not what I was saying at all, but your title is misleading, intentionally or not. A 2yr girl is dead because a rifle meant to instill gun safety in children had one of the first rules of gun safety completely ignore, keep the weapon unloaded, and the chamber open when not in use.

so make it a law? why do you hate freedom?

I'm not a lawmaker, and I hate freedom because I'm a pinko commie... didn't you know that? Now can this thread please be closed, it's quite obvious that you're just trolling.

 Sturmtruppen wrote:
My thoughts are with the five-year-old. He has to deal with this for the rest of his life.

Yeah... I can't even imagine. How horrible.

Unfortunately, this is an example of one of the most easily preventable firearms accidents ever.

What do you think will happen with the parents? Will the kid be put into a home?

 Ouze wrote:

 Sturmtruppen wrote:
My thoughts are with the five-year-old. He has to deal with this for the rest of his life.

Yeah... I can't even imagine. How horrible.

I can see this causing him to go through some form of therapy down the road :-\

Like MoD said earlier, this is less of a gun issue, and a parenting issue...

 Medium of Death wrote:
What do you think will happen with the parents? Will the kid be put into a home?

They ruled it an accident, and I think CPS is highly unlikely to take a surviving child in such an event unless there is some subsequent development - they're going to presume they have been punished enough, and it's no one's best interest to take the child. And I think they'd be right.

It was totally negligent imo, but I don't think you're getting the horse back in the barn on this one; so to speak.

Ok where to start. First off, The rifles? Dakka has changed my mind about guns quite a bit.
But one thing i will never stop seeing is th guns are meant for ADULTS. not 5 year olds. Who in their right mind would let their kid play with a loaded rifle? Maybe get them a rifle, but no rounds for it. Let him get the feel of the rifle. maybe when he hits 11 or so let him handle a loaded rifle.
Then, who thinks it is a good idea to get a gun in the house with a 2 year ld and not properly secure.
3rd. Im am now calling the rifles "My little Rifles: Bullets are magic"

Really? 11 years is what you judge as old enough to use lethal weapons?

 Hordini wrote:
Unfortunately, this is an example of one of the most easily preventable firearms accidents ever.

and there should be ~22 of these for every "I gotta protect myself from bad guys" post.
'cause 'merica

 Soladrin wrote:
Really? 11 years is what you judge as old enough to use lethal weapons?

If it's without adult supervision then that's ridiculous.

 Medium of Death wrote:
What do you think will happen with the parents? Will the kid be put into a home?

One would hope that, at least temporarily they child gets put with another, hopefully better suited relative; And that the parents be given some counseling on HOW to properly parent, since they clearly don't know how to do it right. I would hate to see the surviving kid removed permanently, but my guess is, the kid will stay with the parents (and hopefully all firearms were removed from the property after this incident, since clearly even the parents do not know basic firearm safety)

11, yeah, W/ Adult supervision.
Heck, My kids wont be allowed to handle a gun when im not there until they are out of the house.
Yeah, Dakka made me want t get a gun for my own protection. to bad it is really hard in cali

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
11, yeah, W/ Adult supervision.
Heck, My kids wont be allowed to handle a gun when im not there until they are out of the house.
Yeah, Dakka made me want t get a gun for my own protection. to bad it is really hard in cali

To quote Fraz: "move to Texas!! heck, we'll issue you a gun with your first driver's license!"

The thing that seems most worrying to me is the manufacturer.

Why does something like"MY FIRST GUN" exist? This is the same kind of marketing as cigarettes for kids back in the day.

Soladrin wrote:Really? 11 years is what you judge as old enough to use lethal weapons?

There's nothing wrong with an 11 year old who possesses the appropriate level of maturity and the ability to listen to and follow directions learning how to shoot a gun while being appropriately supervised. I learned how to shoot a gun before I was 11, and so did many of my family and friends. Learning to shoot at a young age is not uncommon in many rural areas. It's okay for kids to learn how to shoot but they need to be supervised by someone who knows what they're doing the entire time.

Grundz wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
Unfortunately, this is an example of one of the most easily preventable firearms accidents ever.

and there should be ~22 of these for every "I gotta protect myself from bad guys" post.
'cause 'merica

I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to say here.

 Soladrin wrote:
The thing that seems most worrying to me is the manufacturer.

Why does something like"MY FIRST GUN" exist? This is the same kind of marketing as cigarettes for kids back in the day.

"Most" families are capable of buying a "starter" gun for their kids... I know growing up I loved going shooting with my dad, etc. There is an allure to nearly everyone of having quality "father son" time out in the "wilds" of the shooting range and popping a few rounds off together. It's one reason why we're such an awesome military... cuz most of us were taught to shoot as wee little mites

 Soladrin wrote:
The thing that seems most worrying to me is the manufacturer.

Why does something like"MY FIRST GUN" exist? This is the same kind of marketing as cigarettes for kids back in the day.

Yeah, they're marketed like toys I found that concerning as well that children are being taught at an early age that guns are toys rather than lethal wepaons.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
The thing that seems most worrying to me is the manufacturer.

Why does something like"MY FIRST GUN" exist? This is the same kind of marketing as cigarettes for kids back in the day.

Yeah, they're marketed like toys I found that concerning as well that children are being taught at an early age that guns are toys rather than lethal wepaons.

If you play FPS games, you're doing much the same thing, only in an obviously more safe environment.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
11, yeah, W/ Adult supervision.
Heck, My kids wont be allowed to handle a gun when im not there until they are out of the house.
Yeah, Dakka made me want t get a gun for my own protection. to bad it is really hard in cali

To quote Fraz: "move to Texas!! heck, we'll issue you a gun with your first driver's license!"

But i love CALI, We have to hottest girls there are.