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It depends on the situation, in battle everyone above has listed good points. but if your chapter is hunting relics... Blood ravens would be your worst ally, The relics would go "missing" along with half of your armoury .

It also depends where you are.

If I was fighting at night you'd want the raven guard (Black armour - so you wouldn't be spotted)

If the Imperial Fists turn up - would you be the one to say "excuse me mate, your armour is a bit bright - you're going to give us away"

I love the space marine equivalent of camo. (which is to leave your armour exactly as it is.)

Flesh Tearers for the reason that they are just a step away from the World Eaters as far as berserk, psychotic butchers go. Marines Malevolent since they don't give a gak about collateral damage, and wouldn't think twice about killing you in the crossfire. Minotaurs because they're just donkey-caves in general.

Everyone is forgetting the Knights of Blood renegades.
They are banished cause of murdering allies.

 Pilau Rice wrote:

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Ultramarines, your enemy is all around and those idiots are trying to find the chapter pertaining to orks

I was going to say Ultras to pretty much for this reason, they would be criticizing you all the time for not doing it as the Codex says and how THEIR own liege wrote the book and how they are the chief adherers to it and how it has a situation for everything and how inferior of a Chapter yours is and that they would show you how to do it better then POWW ... that shut the smug blue git up, you only realise at the last minute that the Inquisitor assigned to the Ultra's is stood there, mouth agape, pointing his finger at you stuttering EX EX EXO T T TRRR

/TG/ Is not a good info for how Ultramarines actually work. Most of them are actually quite humble, especially in comparison to the Space Wolves who will outright tell you how they do it better.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
/TG/ Is not a good info for how Ultramarines actually work. Most of them are actually quite humble, especially in comparison to the Space Wolves who will outright tell you how they do it better.

If anyone would tell you what to do in their terms it is the Ultramarines. Their weakness often is shown to be hubris. The only Space Marine chapter that doesn't tell you is the Imperial Fists, the rest will in more or less polite ways tell you how to wage war.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Pilau Rice wrote:

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Ultramarines, your enemy is all around and those idiots are trying to find the chapter pertaining to orks

I was going to say Ultras to pretty much for this reason, they would be criticizing you all the time for not doing it as the Codex says and how THEIR own liege wrote the book and how they are the chief adherers to it and how it has a situation for everything and how inferior of a Chapter yours is and that they would show you how to do it better then POWW ... that shut the smug blue git up, you only realise at the last minute that the Inquisitor assigned to the Ultra's is stood there, mouth agape, pointing his finger at you stuttering EX EX EXO T T TRRR

/TG/ Is not a good info for how Ultramarines actually work. Most of them are actually quite humble, especially in comparison to the Space Wolves who will outright tell you how they do it better.

I wasn't being serious you know. I guess you're an Ultramarine player, if so, point proven (jokes)

Marines Malevolent.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
If anyone would tell you what to do in their terms it is the Ultramarines.

Based on?

Anyway, the votes for Dark Angels are ridiculous, IMO. Sure, they might leave, but at least they won't kill you. Marines Malevolent (The only correct answer, all others are wrong) would do so without a moment's hesitation.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
No votes for Grey Knights? I'd have to say standing against daemonic incursion, only to then be beaten down by your 'allies' simply for helping them, is pretty bad goings.

Honestly, this makes the most sense. Unless you are part of an established space marine chapter, your summary execution after the battle is virtually guaranteed.

 amanita wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
No votes for Grey Knights? I'd have to say standing against daemonic incursion, only to then be beaten down by your 'allies' simply for helping them, is pretty bad goings.

Honestly, this makes the most sense. Unless you are part of an established space marine chapter, your summary execution after the battle is virtually guaranteed.

Yeah and if you are a Sororita they use your blood to clean their armour.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 amanita wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
No votes for Grey Knights? I'd have to say standing against daemonic incursion, only to then be beaten down by your 'allies' simply for helping them, is pretty bad goings.

Honestly, this makes the most sense. Unless you are part of an established space marine chapter, your summary execution after the battle is virtually guaranteed.

Yeah and if you are a Sororita they use your blood to clean their armour.

Be fair. The knights were about to implode, so they were just being selfish... not just murderous... although they were almost possessed by khorne (oh the irony)

Actually it's a case of memetic mutation. The Grey Knights were about to be overwhelmed by Bloodtide an unstoppable Khornate tide of demons, so the Sororitas offered their lives up in order to stop it. Then through ritual sacrifice they all were sacrificed, and their blood with ointments were used on the Grey Knights armour in order to stop the Bloodtide, which it did.

That's the real story re-told in my words. It's actually not half-bad as far as the story goes as i pertains to heroic sacrifice, but since it's written by Matthew Ward I guess it gets a harsher treatment than it deserve.

Guys, you are forgetting the Carcharodons, whose brilliant strategy for ending the war on Badab Primaris involved blowing up the fething planet WHILE the loyalist Star Phantoms and others were still fighting there.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

Also the Black Templars must be awful to work with. They are basically a bunch of religious fanatics, make one misstep in front of them and you and the rest of your mates are crucified.

To be fair, most of the Imperium's forces are religious fanatics, especially the IG. These are people from a culture where the single-most powerful factor in day-to-day life is the Ecclesiarchy.

 Psienesis wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

Also the Black Templars must be awful to work with. They are basically a bunch of religious fanatics, make one misstep in front of them and you and the rest of your mates are crucified.

To be fair, most of the Imperium's forces are religious fanatics, especially the IG. These are people from a culture where the single-most powerful factor in day-to-day life is the Ecclesiarchy.

VD have already commented on that assumption.

Thatguyhsagun wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 amanita wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
No votes for Grey Knights? I'd have to say standing against daemonic incursion, only to then be beaten down by your 'allies' simply for helping them, is pretty bad goings.

Honestly, this makes the most sense. Unless you are part of an established space marine chapter, your summary execution after the battle is virtually guaranteed.

Yeah and if you are a Sororita they use your blood to clean their armour.

Be fair. The knights were about to implode, so they were just being selfish... not just murderous... although they were almost possessed by khorne (oh the irony)

Either way, you still technically get murdered by your allies so that they can keep the victory a secret.

^ Technically

 Pilau Rice wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Pilau Rice wrote:

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Ultramarines, your enemy is all around and those idiots are trying to find the chapter pertaining to orks

I was going to say Ultras to pretty much for this reason, they would be criticizing you all the time for not doing it as the Codex says and how THEIR own liege wrote the book and how they are the chief adherers to it and how it has a situation for everything and how inferior of a Chapter yours is and that they would show you how to do it better then POWW ... that shut the smug blue git up, you only realise at the last minute that the Inquisitor assigned to the Ultra's is stood there, mouth agape, pointing his finger at you stuttering EX EX EXO T T TRRR

/TG/ Is not a good info for how Ultramarines actually work. Most of them are actually quite humble, especially in comparison to the Space Wolves who will outright tell you how they do it better.

I wasn't being serious you know. I guess you're an Ultramarine player, if so, point proven (jokes)

Hard to tell anymore, when it comes to Ward hate. Getting way to hard to tell between those who actually believe that and those that are being sarcastic

The SM chapter I play is DA, (Though I did use the C:SM codex back when they were still forced to abide by the 4th edition rules until the FAQ update)

Also CSM.

Hm, what about RG ? They had they lack of support following Istvaan....I remember others were pissing on Corax because he retreated...and ofc their guerrilla warfare which isn't too common tactic for a SM.....

 DarthMarko wrote:
Hm, what about RG ? They had they lack of support following Istvaan....I remember others were pissing on Corax because he retreated...and ofc their guerrilla warfare which isn't too common tactic for a SM.....

Which is the bread and butter for the Space Wolves, I have even notched them up as the best raiders in the entire universe. They brag about their forte in close-combat but their secret strength is ranged hit and run-attacks.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 DarthMarko wrote:
Hm, what about RG ? They had they lack of support following Istvaan....I remember others were pissing on Corax because he retreated...and ofc their guerrilla warfare which isn't too common tactic for a SM.....

Which is the bread and butter for the Space Wolves, I have even notched them up as the best raiders in the entire universe. They brag about their forte in close-combat but their secret strength is ranged hit and run-attacks.

Nah, Corax led a full scale guerilla war on his home planet - strike and fade is their thing....SW are "go for the throat" approach...

Regarding loyalists, the Marines Malevolent are the worst. For those that don't know, a group of Orks took near twelve thousand civilians as hostages. In response, the Marines Malevolent ordered an artillery strike, killing five thousand Orks and more than twice that number of noncombatants. He then argued that they didn't deserve to live, as they were weak, and life is the right of the strong.

The Minotaurs are also a brutal Chapter. They were a product of the Cursed Founding, and are renowned for their bloodlust. The Minotaurs destroyed an entire Chapter, the Inceptors. To be clear, the Inceptors weren't traitors. They'd never turned against the Imperium. But in an internal dispute, they got on the Minotaurs' bad side, and the Minotaurs fethed them up. Due to their close ties with the High Lords of Terra, the Minotaurs have been able to get away with a lot of stuff like this.

If we're counting traitors, then the Death Guard Legion would be the worst to fight beside. A lot of their ills are contagious, and they enjoy spreading them. The Death Guard believes that death promotes life; if you have a terminal illness and have nothing left to lose, you're free to live as you please. Without death there is no life, just as without darkness there is no light. Any contact with the Death Guard would be risk. Though they're a valuable force to have under one's command, they come with a huge risk.

Minotaurs are awesome.

They nigh-completely obliterated a second Founding Ultramarine chapter and got away with it, then proceeded to call the Ultramarines Calgar's little nancy boys to their faces.

I'd also put down a vote for Grey Knights here.

The other Chapters *may* go berserk or abandon you or just not care that their artillery is firing "Danger Close", but just seeing a Grey Knight force take to the field is grounds for summary execution for the vast majority of the Imperium.

There's also the fact that the Grey Knights are a wee bit more specialized in their focus (fluff-wise) than other Marine Chapters. Any situation in which they would show up en masse is one in which you're up to your eyeballs in reality-raping horrors from the Warp. If you need to call the Grey Knights in, stuff has gone horribly, *horribly* wrong.

If you're fighting in a battle that requires the presence of the Grey Knights, then them executing you is the least of your problems, IMO.

I actually like the Minotaurs as well, I long ago got tired of the more touchy feely chapters and the conflicting descriptions of them in fluff.

So I may work on a Marines Malevolent / Minotaurs crusade force, a avalance of D-baggery

I think those ywo would work well together...just with plenty of space between them

I'm also going to throw my vote in with Grey Knights... even a win with them is a loss if your their allies lol. Being killed or Mind wiped by your former allies sounds much worse than allies with bad tempers, abandon you, are consider you expendable... at least with those you have a chance of surviving

Lets be honest unless your a marine the Grey Knights are not so much allies and more enemies that happen to be shooting at the same thing you are well pretending to be from the same team and whats worse if you try to defend yourself from them your now a traitor but they are not. Also the Dark Angels I think still win because not only might they ditch but they will kill you or worse for even knowing something about the Fallen.

Grey Knights is guaranteed death unless you have some contacts high-up. Lets see the flesh Tearers I hope get crusaded to death. The Mentors for them letting a mere scout at 20 take charge of the campaign, and such.