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On the problem of evil, I think Epicurus said it best:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

Standard response:
We can't understand god with our frail mortal minds, god is mysterious in his ways!

Translation:
We have no fething clue and choose to dismiss the reasoning you presented because it requires us to admit that this is all made up, we have no tangible evidence to counter your claim with and we are too unwilling to relinquish our childish fantasies. Also, we are going to continue praying to this estranged entity to act on our behalf rather than actually taking it on ourselves to do a damn thing to improve the lives of others, because that requires effort and touching the icky sick, smelly homeless and the dying.

IMO this isn't the type of poll that should be on here...

 Inget namn wrote:
IMO this isn't the type of poll that should be on here...

So instead of ignoring it and letting it fade away down the forum with no replies for a month, you bump it right back to the top. Well done.

Maybe he can make a poll to see if there should be a poll?

 d-usa wrote:
Maybe he can make a poll to see if there should be a poll?

I saw what you did there!

 d-usa wrote:
Maybe he can make a poll to see if there should be a poll?

Im pretty sure we have had that poll already.

I believe that the discussion surrounding the poll will be polarized. We may need to artificially adjust the polarity of the questions...

What does Poland think of this?

 d-usa wrote:
What does Poland think of this?

There having poll about it.

just to put my 2 cents in not that it matters but who cares what religion you are as long as you're not a dick its all good.


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And then to have the Atheists proclaim that we are brainwashing kids in boyscouts is stupid. Especially when I only consul kids on their spirituality and mental well being. I do not consul kids and get them into religions, I just tell them "believe what you want to believe, just believe in something."

I was in the scouts all the basic ideals behind the scouts are religious even the scouts code said at the beginning of every scout meeting and just about every morning at camp. Gays scouts were not allowed and the head of the BSA has openly expressed his religious beliefs on the matter. I quit because it was that way,end of story




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just believe what you believe without being a jerk and killing everyones dreams then defend your right to do so.

I am more of a Karma person. Regarding religion well the pic says it all...

I was listed in the New Zealand electoral roll as Jedi. Seriously, I was allowed.

That was blocked in the UK. Which is a shame. There are plenty of books with jedi in, which surely means it istrue!

Obviously I worship the Immortal Emperor of Mankind. Anyone who doesn't is a filthy Heretic!

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Obviously I worship the Immortal Emperor of Mankind. Anyone who doesn't is a filthy Heretic!

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... or has no interest in GW's fluff.

 Cheesecat wrote:
I'm just curious what the religious makeup of DakkaDakka is, so I made a poll. For me personally I'm irreligious I don't believe in any form of religion, in fact I don't believe in the supernatural either so I guess I'm a naturalist as well that being said I don't have any problems with other people

being religious or believing in the supernatural so long as they don't use it as an excuse for abusing others.

So . . . Do you play chaos SMs or a non Imperium Of Man owned force?

As if dakkadakka wasn't whiny enough now we bring religous beliefs into the mix. A big portion of this thread is people insulting other people for thinking differently.

Much like the world's religious belief, this thread is trying to die. Maybe we should let it.

Agreed. This is getting ridiculous.

Pagan and I have to say in recent years the number of pagan gamers I've met has surprised me

Still atheist but Louis CK makes a good point about how you can never be 100% sure that there is no god (which I agree with).

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/03/125229-video-louis-c-k-snl-monologue-liberals-feminists-absolutely-loved-nsfw/

you can never be 100% sure that there is no god (which I agree with).

The philosopher Bertrand Russel agreed with you, and posited a thought experiment that shows how trivially easy it is to make unfalsifiable claims: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

 Cheesecat wrote:
Still atheist but Louis CK makes a good point about how you can never be 100% sure that there is no god (which I agree with).

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/03/125229-video-louis-c-k-snl-monologue-liberals-feminists-absolutely-loved-nsfw/

That is why Howard Philip Lovecraft said :
“All I say is that I think it is damned unlikely that anything like a central cosmic will, a spirit world, or an eternal survival of personality exist. They are the most preposterous and unjustified of all the guesses which can be made about the universe, and I am not enough of a hair-splitter to pretend that I don't regard them as arrant and negligible moonshine. In theory I am an agnostic, but pending the appearance of radical evidence I must be classed, practically and provisionally, as an atheist.”
Yeah, you cannot (dis)prove it.

It'd have to break down further, because a lot of sects within specific religions are diametrically opposed to one another.

 Samaphira wrote:
Pagan and I have to say in recent years the number of pagan gamers I've met has surprised me

Really?! Around here, 'pagan' and 'gamer' go hand-in-hand so often they might as well be synonymous.

 daedalus-templarius wrote:
I'm agnostic, but I'll be the first to sign up once a deity rides down on a thunderbolt to smite those who oppose him/her.

Think that'll be me too

I think I'm reaching a point where if I don't have something spiritual in my life I feel a crushing pointlessness to everything I do.

Maybe you're just suffering from depression? There's nothing spiritual in my life and it's awesome.

I'd go and see a professional about it (not a priest).

Possibly. I would also note that I never claimed I needed an organised religion per se, nor that everyone needed the same requirements I do. Just a frustrated musing.