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Hey guys I was just spinning a few lists around and came up with this for necrons at 1200:


HQ - Overlord with Warsythe Mindshackle Scarabs and Catacomb Command Barge
Royal Court - 3x Harbingers of the Storm with VoltaicStaves

Troops - 9x Warriors in a Night Scythe
Troops - 9x Warriors in a Night Scythe
Troops - 9x Warriors in a Night Scythe

Heavy Support - Annihilation Barge
Heavy Support - Annihilation Barge
Heavy Support - Annihilation Barge

Idea is Just have the Barges on the Board and try to survive the first turn,then on turn two (hopefully) Night Scythes will be coming on with a Squad of Warriors and a Harbinger of the Storm in each who will kill any enemy mech with their Voltaic Staves whilst the Overlord flies over stuff and kills it. The Annihilation Barges just Rain down Fire and the Scythes Fly around Pissing Everyone Off would this list be considered competitve and what would make it more competitive if it is not??

I like it.

Do you break off the OL before assaulting a unit?

The Overlord is in his Own Command Barge soHopefully He will be able to Fly over and Pop a transport then Dismount and Assault the Contents. He is kind of on his own but provides another AV13 Model and will just pursue his own vendetta against everything

You will find "flying over" things being far harder than it sounds. You can only do this in your movement phase so you have 12" to clear or clip an enemy unit if you plan to do sweep attacks. What you will end up doing in most cases is putting your self in a spot to get assaulted and have your CCB blown up, or put your self in melta range.

Having him on the barge for the 1+ save to stall till your scythes come in, isn't a bad idea, but I wouldn't go rushing out into the world with this unit till you have other targets.

Few things to watch out for, would be people chewing up your warriors once they are dropped off. They won't have to kill many of them to cause you to risk falling back and losing your RP rolls.

You are going to be at the mercy of your rolls, if you don't get the scythes out early, you might find yourself in a tough spot. Lots of haywire grendades and blasters that can wreck a anni pretty quickly.

I could see this doing a lot of damage if things go your way.. keep your WL on his CCB in the back away from things while you burn stuff with the AB. Scythes come in fly around and drop and wreck things while they add more tesla goodness.

Yeah it is a bit of a risk but statistically I should have 2 of the scythes on tun two which should present enough targets for the enemy to keep me alive and hopefully win.

I think CCB is weak thing

CCB draw fire and want to be in melee, but can't be locked in combat. It will get some shoting until the barge is dead and then OL is on foot. He is a warlord, so its vp (slay the warlord) easy to lose because after losing CCB here you get naked lord vulnerable to shooting, it can be in fact 200pts supremacy for opp, sweep attack in 6th ed is harder to use due to flat out changes as Roci noticed, theyre also more vulnerable than was in 5ed.

Maybe it fits here and its another AV13 vehicle, but generally its not good unit.

Quite interesting tesla spam, but sadly teslas aint everything in my opinion. Some games cant be win only by huge amount of S7 shooting. Nids can be tough matchup, its hard to put down T7-9 Tervigon only with teslas, and he gonna sucesfully occupy objective

I agree that Nids are a tough matchup for this list but in the competitive environment atm there seem to be a lack of Nids players


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If you were to have me drop the CCB then what should I take instead?

I think it depends on how you play those warriors. I wouldn't have 9 warriors + stormtek in a nightscythe, because 5 will do for objective holding and the stormtek normally doesn't need help killing a vehicle.

At 1000pts, you want to be able to get Warlord and First Blood. So, I suggest you drop the warrior squads back to 5, ditch the CCB and add a Death & Despair unit with a veiltek.

this will keep your warlord off the board (he is in a scythe) but, if you start the deathmarks on the table and veil them in turn 1, you have a great chance of getting first blood and maybe warlord.

After a while I com to conlusion that despairtek with deathmarks transported by veil isnt good idea.
This unit have to be close to enemy, its high risk though. They perform best in NS in my opinion, to fit one squad here you can ditch 2 stormteks some warriors and ccb.

Bigger troops means that it would be harder for opponent to kill them. But you may also use immortals instead of them in smaller quantity.

And indeed 3 stormteks for 1200 isnt nescesarry since metagame changed so much. However if you play against a lot of vehicle based army its good though.

For tournaments I think that wraiths with d.lord will definatelty fit here to find place for them reduce warriors number or use 5 immortals per scythe, throw ccb away and stormteks. It will turn your list into classic wraithwing but generally its most competetive incarnation of cron list nowadays.

My advise would be drop the CCB and 4 warriors from 2 units and stormtek from the 3rd. This nets you 219 points get a Death mark squad with Despairtek to up your infantry killing power.

 SwistakCZC wrote:
After a while I com to conlusion that despairtek with deathmarks transported by veil isnt good idea.
This unit have to be close to enemy, its high risk though. They perform best in NS in my opinion, to fit one squad here you can ditch 2 stormteks some warriors and ccb.

I have great success with the veiltek and particularly with starting them on the board with the veiltek. Imho, it's important to remember that the D&D squad is a suicide unit. You get one set of shooting and that's it. Anything more is gravy. Given that, why spend points to put them in a NS (remember, for the price of a NS you can get another unit of deathmarks but without the veiltek), then realise that you can't get them in when you need them. If you need them, you need them now.

For me, that VP for First blood is worth the risk.

 SwistakCZC wrote:
For tournaments I think that wraiths with d.lord will definatelty fit here to find place for them reduce warriors number or use 5 immortals per scythe, throw ccb away and stormteks. It will turn your list into classic wraithwing but generally its most competetive incarnation of cron list nowadays.

Agree on the wraiths, but I think you can build tournament lists without having to resort to them. In this case a mech shooty list will give many lists a bit of trouble, remembering that these are (a) flyers and (b) everything on the table is AV13 (to start with). Also, that is a lot of shooting!

Death and Despair squads always need a Nightscythes. But the Nightscythe always pays for itself as it is horrenduously undercosted as is. My Necrons have no Wraiths as I go double court flying circus with 6 Nightscythes at 1750. I've drawn 1 game because it ended turn 5 with my Warlord off the table in a transport and it was against 2k of new Daemons. You don't need Wraiths to be competitive, though that may have changed now with Tau.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Death and Despair squads always need a Nightscythes. But the Nightscythe always pays for itself as it is horrenduously undercosted as is.

Ummmm....no, D&D squads don't need nightscythes. They were still a great unit in 5th, with no flyers to be seen. Also, in this case the Nightscythe is not "undercosted". It is 100 points but an AB, which has the same gun, higher armour plus an additional gun is only 90 points. Or, for an additional 30 points, get 2 D&D units.

Sure, it is great you can place a D&D squad exactly where you want it, but this advantage is situational. It really only helps when the flamer template has to be on a particular angle (ie the target is stretched out in a long line). It is HIGHLY unlikely that the deathmarks will survive to be picked up again.

I'm not saying you shouldn't put them in Nightscythes, I'm saying that using them with a veil and starting them on a table gives you a better chance to get first blood and also costs you less. Remember that this is a one-shot unit (if your opponent knows what they are doing, the whole squad should be dead the next turn).

I would argue that the veil option costs 30 more points (for that you could get a 2nd Despairtek and make a serious unit killer). Deepstriking within flamer range is asking to give your opponent First Blood as you'll rarely kill a whole squad. Arriving by Nightscythes guarantees the unit is where you need it.

Yes the Nightscythes is 10 more points than an Annihilation Barge. But you can only take 3 of them. Plus the extra points of armour are not as much protection as being a flyer particularly when you consider that the Barge is also open topped.

As for them NEVER surviving after they've hit I have to disagree. Granted I run 2 squads both with double Despairteks. But by bringing them on with Nightscythes they arrive with multiple other threats. Often they don't even get shot at other than by a few bolt guns or sometimes even at all. When your opponent is trying to deal with 4 flyers and 3 Annihilation Barges and has lost his two best infantry units and his best tanks attacking anything is a challenge. Attacking a unit that no longer kills on 2+ is a lower priority.

I also think that deepstriking with unit that need to be placed as close to enemy as possible isnt good option.

I think that NS is very cheap, transport capacity, dedicated transport, tesla, invasion beam, when shot down troops go into reserve, living metal... 100 pts is very nice price.

Its nice observation that Deathmarks can live long on board after disembarking. I think that its good to take 2-3 squads of them in order to mark more units.

I have used the D&D combo with veil and I'm about 50/50 with that set up. If you don't have access to a scythe for them or are really stressed for the points I think they work in a pincch I just prefer scythe.